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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
Can Sheary play his off wing?

Keep Sam with Casey and see if you can get 53-9-43 rolling?

Put Thompson on the left with Casey and Sam.

What's the worst that could happen?

- thatsapickle

I don't know if sheary or olofsson can flip to rw

I know tage and smith can play either side, and o regan can play all 3 spots

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 10:55 AM ET
i havent given up on tage yet

but 46 games into this season, if he is in fact much much better than Sobotka and Larsson, wouldnt it LOOK like he is much better than Sobotka and Larsson when is "saddled" with them

- Der Kaiser

You don’t think he does?

Thompson 7 goals in 575 minutes

Okposo 10 goals in 750 minutes

Sobotka 3 goals in 756 minutes

Girgs 3 goals in 644 minutes

Those are his most common linemates

He scores goals at a better clip than all of them.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 10:56 AM ET
how much would you pay for stone?

I think he would be the perfect 1-2 rw with skunk to go with jack and casey as centers

- homiedclown

Is this with a Skinner extension?
macman9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 02.04.2013

Feb 10 @ 10:56 AM ET
I don’t think Sheary has a spot on an Playoff caliber roster. Isn’t skilled enough offensively to be in a top 6 role, isn’t good defensively or play with enough grit to play in the bottom 6. Girgensons can at least play PK and fill a valuable role on a 4th line.

Okposo (see Sheary discription above) and Sobotka (see Girgensons discription above). At least Okposo doesn’t look completely out of place in a bottom 6 role but he’s making 4M per year too much for his role. I’d love Sobotka 2M cheaper as well as a 4th Line C.

- Pegullaville

Yet Sheary played on and contributed to 2? Stanley Cups in Pittsburgh, I get that they moved on from him, but that doesn't diminish the fact that he had playoff success in Pittsburgh and that is what GMJB wanted when he brought him to Buffalo. It didn't cost much to get him here and the hope is, when his contract is up the next guy in line will be ready and have some experience winning from his time spent in Rochester.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
Is this with a Skinner extension?
- sbroads24

I would think if skinner signed there is room for stone and maybe a middle pair d man

assuming 2 scrubs got moved
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Feb 10 @ 10:57 AM ET
olofsson is more skilled for the second line IMO
smith for the 3rd line

so do you put sheary on the 4th line like the pens did?

- homiedclown


Obviously a lot of stuff can happen in between now and next year but let’s say hypothetically with what we have now:

Skinner-Eichel-1RW
Smith-2C-Reinhart
Sheary-Mitts-erod /Thompson
Moldy Cheese-Larry-slowposo
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 10:59 AM ET
I would think if skinner signed there is room for stone and maybe a middle pair d man

assuming 2 scrubs got moved

- homiedclown

I would go ridiculously hard after Stone but only because he’s an elite player.

If they are able to land him they need to use the picks to stockpile some cheap talent in the pipeline
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:00 AM ET
When the Sabres made the run with Miller, Vanek, Roy, Pommer and the rest of that team, it came off the heals of a very successful run in the AHL, Pittsburgh won their cups with the help of players who had success in the AHL, so it is not wrong to want the Americans to do well in the playoffs, It gives the players the taste of the playoffs that they so richly need. Playoff pressure is playoff pressure, I don't care where it happens. The Sabres just can't dump players we don't like, there are cap ramifications that have to be dealt with. If you don't like 17 or 6 or 21 or anybody what makes you think GMJB is going to be able to find somebody to take them of his hands. One by One these contracts will expire, or they will use the occasional buyout or bury them in the minors, ( Moulson's contract expires this year) the players that will replace them will come from Rochester and they will know what it takes to succeed.
- macman9


Do you think we don’t know all this??

These players 9, 26, 23 etc......would benefit greatly with some playoff experience this year! You can waive Sobotka (no one, most likely will take him).

My point is we have 2 months left (it’s not November) these young guys deserve a shot - some guys need to sit 21, 6 and 17 (29 sat). Try to make that push, trade some picks/prospects for players like Toffolli/Hayes before its to late - players young that you can sign!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:01 AM ET
Obviously a lot of stuff can happen in between now and next year but let’s say hypothetically with what we have now:

Skinner-Eichel-1RW
Smith-2C-Reinhart
Sheary-Mitts-erod /Thompson
Moldy Cheese-Larry-slowposo

- Sabre_Tooth

in this case

stone and either nelson or lee from islanders?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:02 AM ET
You don’t think he does?

Thompson 7 goals in 575 minutes

Okposo 10 goals in 750 minutes

Sobotka 3 goals in 756 minutes

Girgs 3 goals in 644 minutes

Those are his most common linemates

He scores goals at a better clip than all of them.

- sbroads24



but tage's only role is as a scorer, and those others dont define themselves that way.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
I would go ridiculously hard after Stone but only because he’s an elite player.

If they are able to land him they need to use the picks to stockpile some cheap talent in the pipeline

- sbroads24

yup

I think with eichel, skinner, stone, reinhart and casey

you have 5 of your top 6 locked up for years and all the right age

skunk will get a bump after next season so they have to be responsible when scandella, bogo, pod racer and sheary comes off the books
sabreadvocate1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ON
Joined: 12.12.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:04 AM ET
The leafs and their idiot fans are out of their (frank)ing mind if they think Buffalo is going to do anything but sit back, sip on a drink, and laugh while the Leafs wallow in cap hell.
- feetontheair22


I wish we were in their teams position instead of our teams position right now.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:04 AM ET
but tage's only role is as a scorer, and those others dont define themselves that way.
- Der Kaiser

what does okposo define himself as on the ice?

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:06 AM ET
I wish we were in their teams position instead of our teams position right now.
- sabreadvocate1

for the 20-21 season only eichel, okposo, hutton, risto and dahlin are under contract

most of the mess is cleaned up after next season
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 10 @ 11:06 AM ET
Erod is a bottom 6 player. Pommer is a vet.

Do you really think Victor Olofsson is going to come in and score goals with Sobotka?

I know how you feel about Nylander, do you think he comes in and looks good in a bottom 6 role?

- sbroads24


Olofsson should play with Mittelstadt or Erod.

The Notreadysson is almost here
macman9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 02.04.2013

Feb 10 @ 11:07 AM ET
I honestly don't understand how people will consider this season a failure if we don't make the playoffs. This team is heads better than last year, They are learning how to play meaningful games at this time of year. anyone who said that the Sabres should make the playoffs this year at the start of the season is kidding themselves. The 10 game win streak was the worst thing to happen this year, because it raised everyone expectations to an unfair level. This team is exactly what the record says they are. GMJB still has a ton of work to do to get the lineup he wants. Our farm team in Cincinnati is having great success, our team in Rochester is having great success, He said when he git here that one of the most important things that needed to happen was building up the farm teams and that would in turn eventually make the parent team stronger. If there was ever a time for patience to see how things play out with a front office and coaching staff, this is it.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 11:07 AM ET
Olofsson should play with Mittelstadt or Erod.

The Notreadysson is almost here

- jcragcrumple

But he won’t, and that’s the problem.

Housley would never
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 10 @ 11:08 AM ET
I don't know if sheary or olofsson can flip to rw

I know tage and smith can play either side, and o regan can play all 3 spots

- homiedclown


Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Sheary-Mittelstadt-Okposo
Olofsson-Erod-Pominville
Smith-stank/stink-stunk


Move on from tage
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
but tage's only role is as a scorer, and those others dont define themselves that way.
- Der Kaiser

Wait, what’s 6mil Okposo’s role?

I don’t have an issue criticizing Tage or saying he needs to be better.

Expecting goals and points with his linemates are just flat out unrealistic.

thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Feb 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
I honestly don't understand how people will consider this season a failure if we don't make the playoffs. This team is heads better than last year, They are learning how to play meaningful games at this time of year. anyone who said that the Sabres should make the playoffs this year at the start of the season is kidding themselves. The 10 game win streak was the worst thing to happen this year, because it raised everyone expectations to an unfair level. This team is exactly what the record says they are. GMJB still has a ton of work to do to get the lineup he wants. Our farm team in Cincinnati is having great success, our team in Rochester is having great success, He said when he git here that one of the most important things that needed to happen was building up the farm teams and that would in turn eventually make the parent team stronger. If there was ever a time for patience to see how things play out with a front office and coaching staff, this is it.
- macman9



The team was in first place in the league. That set expectations higher than they should have been. At the beginning of the season, if you told me that the team would be 4 points out of the playoffs, I would have been happy. The problem is that they gave more hope than they could possibly deliver on. That's the unfortunate part about the expectations.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:10 AM ET
I don’t think Sheary has a spot on an Playoff caliber roster. Isn’t skilled enough offensively to be in a top 6 role, isn’t good defensively or play with enough grit to play in the bottom 6. Girgensons can at least play PK and fill a valuable role on a 4th line.

Okposo (see Sheary discription above) and Sobotka (see Girgensons discription above). At least Okposo doesn’t look completely out of place in a bottom 6 role but he’s making 4M per year too much for his role. I’d love Sobotka 2M cheaper as well as a 4th Line C.

- Pegullaville



Sheary's 57 playoff games in 3 seasons begs to differ.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:10 AM ET
I honestly don't understand how people will consider this season a failure if we don't make the playoffs. This team is heads better than last year, They are learning how to play meaningful games at this time of year. anyone who said that the Sabres should make the playoffs this year at the start of the season is kidding themselves. The 10 game win streak was the worst thing to happen this year, because it raised everyone expectations to an unfair level. This team is exactly what the record says they are. GMJB still has a ton of work to do to get the lineup he wants. Our farm team in Cincinnati is having great success, our team in Rochester is having great success, He said when he git here that one of the most important things that needed to happen was building up the farm teams and that would in turn eventually make the parent team stronger. If there was ever a time for patience to see how things play out with a front office and coaching staff, this is it.
- macman9

the rookie coach is no better after 130 plus games behind the bench


that is my biggest issue


and some scrubs are still on this roster, time for addition from subtraction


skinner is having his best season ever perhaps
reinhart proved the second half of last season was not a fluke
dahlin shows glimpses of being a stud
pilut has shown he will be an nhl d man

yet it's not an upbeat north south team in year 2 still and the pp is underperforming


I think replacing the coach in this case fixes 2/3 of the issues of this team
once the win streak ended, playoffs SHOULD have been the goal

housley and botts sat on their hands and watched the team slide back into a lottery pick
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 10 @ 11:11 AM ET
But he won’t, and that’s the problem.

Housley would never

- sbroads24


Not at first, but TT got his shot on L1, Olofsson would get his shot eventually
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
Not at first, but TT got his shot on L1, Olofsson would get his poop eventually
- jcragcrumple

For a period.

Then he will get sat the moment he takes a penalty or makes a bad play, and we will complain.

Do you really believe Olofsson, Nylander O’Regan or Asplund are just going to come in and transition smoothly?

Housley just sat the Amerk’s best player yesterday
.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
Sheary's 57 playoff games in 3 seasons begs to differ.
- Powerslave

he was dropped to the 4th line in the playoffs last season
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