Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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I sure wouldn't give up our 1st RP for Silfverberg. No way. Could Perry re survive his career in Pittsburgh? I've always found him a pain in the ass to play against. I'd take his contract if Anaheim retained around 40% of his contract and if Hörnqvist went the other way. - Barnaby36
A) Anaheim probably won’t trade Perry. B) If they did itd be for futures because they’ve decided to rebuild, not 30 year old Hornqvidt. C) They’re not going to retain ~3.3 mil of a contract with multiple years of term unless it’s for a really good deal. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Perry is 33 and hasn't put up 20+ goals in in three years and makes $8.25M
Hornqvist is 32 and hit 29 goals last year and makes $5.3M.
You want to trade a player who's still consistent for a player who's on his obvious decline? Then, you want to get someone to retain enough money so you're basically paying him to do less than the guy you shipped out to get him?
What are you guys smoking?
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Perry is 33 and hasn't put up 20+ goals in in three years and makes $8.25M
Hornqvist is 32 and hit 29 goals last year and makes $5.3M.
You want to trade a player who's still consistent for a player who's on his obvious decline? Then, you want to get someone to retain enough money so you're basically paying him to do less than the guy you shipped out to get him?
What are you guys smoking? - Rinosaur
Perry’s even strength production rate per 60 has been on par or better than Hornqvist in recent years besides this year where Perry has only played five games.
Granted, I don’t want to trade for Perry. I’m not interested in another over 30 player that makes north of 8 million a year. But Perry is still probably the better player. |
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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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Perry is 33 and hasn't put up 20+ goals in in three years and makes $8.25M
Hornqvist is 32 and hit 29 goals last year and makes $5.3M.
You want to trade a player who's still consistent for a player who's on his obvious decline? Then, you want to get someone to retain enough money so you're basically paying him to do less than the guy you shipped out to get him?
What are you guys smoking? - Rinosaur
Perry could have been on my longer list of bad contracts as well when we were going through them haha |
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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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Any update on Bjugstad? - stayinthefnnet
Haven't heard anything |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Perry’s even strength production rate per 60 has been on par or better than Hornqvist in recent years besides this year where Perry has only played five games.
Granted, I don’t want to trade for Perry. I’m not interested in another over 30 player that makes north of 8 million a year. But Perry is still probably the better player. - Victoro311
The difference is Perry has been on a decline. Hornqvist has not. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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The difference is Perry has been on a decline. Hornqvist has not. - Rinosaur
Look man I’m not arguing that I’d rather have Perry. Im just nitpicking your argument about goal totals because I have nothing better to do right now haha. |
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DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 04.29.2016
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poor horny gets his ass thrown in these trade proposals every year. |
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acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Get the Cup back, PA Joined: 06.13.2007
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Any update on Bjugstad? - stayinthefnnet
According to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette he is fine. |
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chuckied
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Scott Base Joined: 10.03.2017
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Perry is 33 and hasn't put up 20+ goals in in three years and makes $8.25M
Hornqvist is 32 and hit 29 goals last year and makes $5.3M.
You want to trade a player who's still consistent for a player who's on his obvious decline? Then, you want to get someone to retain enough money so you're basically paying him to do less than the guy you shipped out to get him?
What are you guys smoking? - Rinosaur
This. Why the hell do people even mention moving Horny? He’s a warhorse. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Look man I’m not arguing that I’d rather have Perry. Im just nitpicking your argument about goal totals because I have nothing better to do right now haha. - Victoro311
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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This. Why the hell do people even mention moving Horny? He’s a warhorse. - chuckied
I can't lie, I definitely go back and forth on Horny. I'm not necessarily against most players getting traded as long as it makes sense. Right now trading him doesn't make sense, but if he were to be traded, trading him for Perry certainly doesn't make sense. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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I love Hornquist and think someone would have to massively overpay to get him. I also love Perry but he has taken a step back and is heavily overpaid at this point.
If I'm trading with Anaheim I'd do Kessel and Johnson for Fowler and Perry ($2M retained) or something based around that. Would also need to move Pearson or to make it happen. You are basically gambling that Perry can get near where he used to be.
Jake-Crosby-Horny
Simon-Malkin-Perry
McCann-Bjugsrad-Rust
ZAR-Cullen-Blueger
Dumo-Letang
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Maata-Pettersom |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I can't lie, I definitely go back and forth on Horny. I'm not necessarily against most players getting traded as long as it makes sense. Right now trading him doesn't make sense, but if he were to be traded, trading him for Perry certainly doesn't make sense. - Rinosaur
So last week of HBSL before the playoffs. How are you looking? |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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So last week of HBSL before the playoffs. How are you looking? - Feds91Stammer
I won again this week but didn't move in division, still 3rd...moved up to 64th overall though. |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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I love Hornquist and think someone would have to massively overpay to get him. I also love Perry but he has taken a step back and is heavily overpaid at this point.
If I'm trading with Anaheim I'd do Kessel and Johnson for Fowler and Perry ($2M retained) or something based around that. Would also need to move Pearson or to make it happen. You are basically gambling that Perry can get near where he used to be.
Jake-Crosby-Horny
Simon-Malkin-Perry
McCann-Bjugsrad-Rust
ZAR-Cullen-Blueger
Dumo-Letang
Fowler-Schultz
Maata-Pettersom - MacPatty
I don’t see how this makes the Penguins better. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I don’t see how this makes the Penguins better. - j.boyd919
Cause you get Fowler aka JJ 2.0 |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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So last week of HBSL before the playoffs. How are you looking? - Feds91Stammer
I keep winning, but that last win only bumped me from 159 to 149. I’m not sure I make it even if I win this week.
You climb higher? |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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I don’t see how this makes the Penguins better. - j.boyd919
Because Perry |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Oh hi. nice game against the devils you are having there - martox
(frank) what a mess |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I keep winning, but that last win only bumped me from 159 to 149. I’m not sure I make it even if I win this week.
You climb higher? - Rinosaur
Went from 20th to 19th.
I won 600 to 599.5 |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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Because Perry - Rinosaur
Perry isn’t even that good. I don’t see Perry as a huge upgrade to Phil, if an upgrade at all to be honest. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Went from 20th to 19th.
I won 600 to 599.5 - Feds91Stammer
Lol!
That happened to once this year and it was honestly more satisfying than when I’ve blown people out. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Perry isn’t even that good. I don’t see Perry as a huge upgrade to Phil, if an upgrade at all to be honest. - j.boyd919
Oh I agree. I was being sarcastic. See my earlier replies. |
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