It’s just a fact, have a look. He cant handle those types of minutes wothout soemone covering his ass.
- neem55

id like to see some of these facts that you speak of. care to link?

Truth be told if we do sign him I will be rooting for him, I just think it would be a mistake
- NorthNuck

the contract for sure

NO MYERS
- NorthNuck

Would be Gudbranson 2.0 here....

It’s just a fact, have a look. He cant handle those types of minutes wothout soemone covering his ass.
- neem55

What stats exactly lead you to this determination and where are you finding them? Like Hutton does A, B & C at X% therefore he's D or he's classified as a #__ defender??

Hutton is not a valid top4 option. His numbers when away from stecher speak for themselves.
- neem55

Ugh, thanks for the comment but ugh, thats a bad take...

id like to see some of these facts that you speak of. care to link?
- Codes1087

Of Hutton away from Stecher? I mean it's a pretty easy hold to place, you know how stats work. I don’t need to hold your hand.

It’s just a fact, have a look. He cant handle those types of minutes wothout soemone covering his ass.
- neem55

I look forward to your video evidence.

Of Hutton away from Stecher? I mean it's a pretty easy hold to place, you know how stats work. I don’t need to hold your hand.
- neem55

so you are putting a claim down with "statistical evidence", but when i ask you to prove the statistical evidence is exactly that, rather than a biased opinion, you tell me to go pound sand? alright.

What stats exactly lead you to this determination and where are you finding them? Like Hutton does A, B & C at X% therefore he's D or he's classified as a #__ defender??
- Brooks_Light

Up until this year he’s been poop. This year, with stecher he’s been ok. Away from stecher pretty bad. I look at shot differentials, possession, and hold for competition and who his partner is. Stecher makes him better. He’s like the opposite of eg, who made an already bad hutton worse. I think hutton has improved, bit i think people are missing the fact that it’s Stecher more thsn him

Of Hutton away from Stecher? I mean it's a pretty easy hold to place, you know how stats work. I don’t need to hold your hand.
- neem55

Stats are not facts, they are made up to emphasis the points, that the person who made the stats, wants to express, so it is an opinion and not a fact.

so you are putting a claim down with "statistical evidence", but when i ask you to prove the statistical evidence is exactly that, rather than a biased opinion, you tell me to go pound sand? alright.
- Codes1087

Im saying im not going to do that labour for you. If you want to run that stat model, i already have and am not going to generate it again just to satisfy your curiosity and justify Hutton not being good and Stecher holding him up. If i had the page still, no problem.

I look forward to your video evidence.
- Reubenkincade

Im saying im not going to do that labour for you. If you want to run that stat model, i already have and am not going to generate it again just to satisfy your curiosity and justify Hutton not being good and Stecher holding him up. If i had the page still, no problem.
- neem55

well maybe don't use "stats" as the basis of your argument without being able to stand behind it when questioned about it. And maybe don't be so stand-off-ish about a question when it was nothing more than.... a question. You catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar Neem

Stats are not facts, they are made up to emphasis the points, that the person who made the stats, wants to express, so it is an opinion and not a fact.
- Reubenkincade

Fact: Huttons corsi, fenwick and adjusted shot/scoring chance metrics are ALL lower away from Stecher. This shouldnt be tgat surprising considering how bad he was last year. He’s gotten better, but if you guys honestly think he’s a legit top4 dman than I really dont know what to tell you other than: were a bottom ten team, defence is our biggest weakness. And ben hutton is a legit top 4 dman?! No.

well maybe don't use "stats" as the basis of your argument without being able to stand behind it when questioned about it. And maybe don't be so stand-off-ish about a question when it was nothing more than.... a question. You catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar Neem
- Codes1087

I can stand behind it no problem, there are numerous websites which you can do the work on yourself. Have a look if you’d like, prove me wrong. I’m not sure how flies apply to Ben Hutton not being a top4 calibre dman, i thought it was kind of obvious.

Fact: Huttons corsi, fenwick and adjusted shot/scoring chance metrics are ALL lower away from Stecher. This shouldnt be tgat surprising considering how bad he was last year. He’s gotten better, but if you guys honestly think he’s a legit top4 dman than I really dont know what to tell you other than: were a bottom ten team, defence is our biggest weakness. And ben hutton is a legit top 4 dman?! No.
- neem55

I am not defending Hutton, as I hope he is done here, I just don't agree, at all, with analytics community, when a bullpoop statement is made about stats being Facts.
Pathetic actually.

I am not defending Hutton, as I hope he is done here, I just don't agree, at all, with analytics community, when a bullpoop statement is made about stats being Facts.
Pathetic actually.
- Reubenkincade

A number being higher or lower is factual. I’m sorry science appals you, please vaccinate your kids.

I can stand behind it no problem, there are numerous websites which you can do the work on yourself. Have a look if you’d like, prove me wrong. I’m not sure how flies apply to Ben Hutton not being a top4 calibre dman, i thought it was kind of obvious.
- neem55

the phrase "you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar" is an expression.. Didn't think you would try and literally apply it to this situation, but i guess im not surprised lol.

i think the best part of all of this Neem is the fact that no one truly gives a poop about Hutton half as much as you. You are the one who made the claim, and we are all simply asking to back up your statement, which you are now telling us to search up ourselves. For the sanctity of the comment section of the blog, i will leave it at that, but again, it generally works in your favor, that if you are going to reference a multitude of different stats to back up your claim in an argument, it might be beneficial to have them readily available, than it is to tell the person who wants to know more, to go search it up themselves, just my two cents.

A number being higher or lower is factual. I’m sorry science appals you, please vaccinate your kids.
- neem55

maybe sit the next couple plays out neem. People disagreeing with you should never turn personal, which is exactly what you have done here.

Who replaces him? You want Biega for 82 games as a 2nd pairing defencemen? Could sign someone equal in free agency for possibly a lot more. Drafting RHD has produced a lot of players that can easily replace Tanev already.

If and when there is a replacement or Tanev becomes an expiring asset he should be traded if the team is no good still. Otherwise, you are taking steps backwards without any guarantee of taking any step forward.
- manvanfan

What makes Tanev so good can I ask? Please don't say he is one of the best shot blockers . I believe he is one of the worst shot blockers. A player that misses 30 games a year is a reckless shot blocker.

He doesn't brink toughness and he doesn't bring scoring so what does he bring?

well maybe don't use "stats" as the basis of your argument without being able to stand behind it when questioned about it. And maybe don't be so stand-off-ish about a question when it was nothing more than.... a question. You catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar Neem
- Codes1087

You catch even more with manure. Or a dead body

A number being higher or lower is factual. I’m sorry science appals you, please vaccinate your kids.
- neem55

I know how stats work, it is more about the information being inputted, too get a result you want being outputted.

What's with the vaccination comment? You sound like the typical analytical goof, that is a snarky poophead, when someone doesn't agree with them.

You catch even more with manure. Or a dead body
- NorthNuck

is that why frankie is killing the franchise?

i did the math. the numbers all add up to "fire benning."

do the research. i can't do it for you. any sane person who sciences like i science can see the facts.

is that why frankie is killing the franchise?

i did the math. the numbers all add up to "fire benning."

do the research. i can't do it for you. any sane person who sciences like i science can see the facts.
- RealityChecker

The music of Queen undoubtedly is designed to entice satanic rituals. Listening to it also burns away the part of your brain that deals with morality.

These are facts, and you can trust me on that, I've done the research. If you think I'm wrong you should refrain from posting any disagreement with me until you look it up yourself.

is that why frankie is killing the franchise?

i did the math. the numbers all add up to "fire benning."

do the research. i can't do it for you. any sane person who sciences like i science can see the facts.
- RealityChecker

well played.