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Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Mar 22 @ 11:39 AM ET
Mike Augello: Leafs blueline on the mend? Petan signed to two-year extension
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Mar 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Mike Augello: Leafs blueline on the mend? Petan signed to two-year extension
- mikeinbuffalo

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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Mar 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
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- bobbyisno1

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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
Mike Augello: Leafs blueline on the mend? Petan signed to two-year extension
- mikeinbuffalo



The Petan Man Can
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Mar 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
Melnyk.

Imagine being the guy that gave him some of his liver and absolutely hating him now.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Mar 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
Melnyk.

Imagine being the guy that gave him some of his liver and absolutely hating him now.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Honestly, I think that most Sens fans would hate the guy that gave him the liver almost as much as Yuuugene himself...
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
According to the Athletic, we now have a 52% chance of winning the first round, with Boston falling to 48%.

Don't shoot the messenger here, boys.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Mar 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
Honestly, I think that most Sens fans would hate the guy that gave him the liver almost as much as Yuuugene himself...
- lumlums




Does Melnyk have kids? If he doesn't, who would have taken over the team after his death?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
According to the Athletic, we now have a 52% chance of winning the first round, with Boston falling to 48%.

Don't shoot the messenger here, boys.

- Atomic Wedgie


Are their calculations based on something similar to Eklund's "simulator"?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
According to the Athletic, we now have a 52% chance of winning the first round, with Boston falling to 48%.

Don't shoot the messenger here, boys.

- Atomic Wedgie



Did someone from the AthleticTO write that?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 22 @ 11:54 AM ET
According to the Athletic, we now have a 52% chance of winning the first round, with Boston falling to 48%.

Don't shoot the messenger here, boys.

- Atomic Wedgie

Some other wacky insights:

We have about a 1 in 3 chance of beating TB in the 2nd round.

TB has a 24% chance of winning the Stanley Cup.

After that, there's a few teams at 9%:

Leafs
Penguins
Predators

Then a few at 8%:

Bruins
Sharks
Golden Knights

Yeah, don't ask me how they are generating these numbers.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Mar 22 @ 11:55 AM ET
Are their calculations based on something similar to Eklund's "simulator"?
- TheMussel


The BuzzTron 3000 is currently loaned to the Trump administration so they can use it to calculate the benefits of building the border wall.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 22 @ 12:00 PM ET
Some other wacky insights:

We have about a 1 in 3 chance of beating TB in the 2nd round.

TB has a 24% chance of winning the Stanley Cup.

After that, there's a few teams at 9%:

Leafs
Penguins
Predators

Then a few at 8%:

Bruins
Sharks
Golden Knights

Yeah, don't ask me how they are generating these numbers.

- Atomic Wedgie


I have less faith in this than Eklund's "simulator".

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
Are their calculations based on something similar to Eklund's "simulator"?
- TheMussel

"The projections are based on 50,000 simulations of the remainder of the season, which factors in each team’s projected strength, current health, and their strength of schedule (which includes opponent strength, venue and rest). "

He then has a page which goes into further details. Basically he assigns values to each player, and then spits out a number based on calculations. Much like James Tanner, he has trouble recognizing that when you feed 5 subjective numbers into a formula, the sum it spits out isn't necessarily "fact."

From his FAQ:

How accurate are these?

Last year they were within +/- 9.9 points of the actual results. That sounds bad (and it is because the year before most models were within eight or nine), but that’s largely because last year was much less predictable than recent seasons. Compared to every other public point projection I found, this model was actually the best one. Go me! Keep in mind that’s just one season, but it’s still pretty good. You can also see Micah McCurdy’s assessment of different playoff probabilities last season to see this model had the right idea about many teams quicker than most. During the playoffs, it did pretty well compared to the other models. too. On a game-by-game basis, it predicted the favourite correctly 59.4 percent of the time last season, which is very high for hockey. It was also profitable against Pinnacle, the world’s most reputable sportsbook. Again, it’s been just one season, but the results have been good enough to be relatively trustworthy.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
The BuzzTron 3000 is currently loaned to the Trump administration so they can use it to calculate the benefits of building the border wall.
- TrashPanda

Can we get the Mexicans to pay for my Season Ticket to Hockeybuzz?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
"The projections are based on 50,000 simulations of the remainder of the season, which factors in each team’s projected strength, current health, and their strength of schedule (which includes opponent strength, venue and rest). "

He then has a page which goes into further details. Basically he assigns values to each player, and then spits out a number based on calculations. Much like James Tanner, he has trouble recognizing that when you feed 5 subjective numbers into a formula, the sum it spits out isn't necessarily "fact."

From his FAQ:

How accurate are these?

Last year they were within +/- 9.9 points of the actual results. That sounds bad (and it is because the year before most models were within eight or nine), but that’s largely because last year was much less predictable than recent seasons. Compared to every other public point projection I found, this model was actually the best one. Go me! Keep in mind that’s just one season, but it’s still pretty good. You can also see Micah McCurdy’s assessment of different playoff probabilities last season to see this model had the right idea about many teams quicker than most. During the playoffs, it did pretty well compared to the other models. too. On a game-by-game basis, it predicted the favourite correctly 59.4 percent of the time last season, which is very high for hockey. It was also profitable against Pinnacle, the world’s most reputable sportsbook. Again, it’s been just one season, but the results have been good enough to be relatively trustworthy.

- Atomic Wedgie



So, some geek wrote an algorithm...... ok.

Happy Friday Buzzards
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
I have less faith in this than Eklund's "simulator".
- Aetherial


seems reasonable to me
if you just say everyone has a 1/16 chance thats 6.25%

but some teams I would say have a better chance than others
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Mar 22 @ 12:11 PM ET


Does Melnyk have kids? If he doesn't, who would have taken over the team after his death?

- GreatGigInTheSky

I would’ve hoped UG. That would’ve made my life.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
"The projections are based on 50,000 simulations of the remainder of the season, which factors in each team’s projected strength, current health, and their strength of schedule (which includes opponent strength, venue and rest). "

He then has a page which goes into further details. Basically he assigns values to each player, and then spits out a number based on calculations. Much like James Tanner, he has trouble recognizing that when you feed 5 subjective numbers into a formula, the sum it spits out isn't necessarily "fact."

From his FAQ:

How accurate are these?

Last year they were within +/- 9.9 points of the actual results. That sounds bad (and it is because the year before most models were within eight or nine), but that’s largely because last year was much less predictable than recent seasons. Compared to every other public point projection I found, this model was actually the best one. Go me! Keep in mind that’s just one season, but it’s still pretty good. You can also see Micah McCurdy’s assessment of different playoff probabilities last season to see this model had the right idea about many teams quicker than most. During the playoffs, it did pretty well compared to the other models. too. On a game-by-game basis, it predicted the favourite correctly 59.4 percent of the time last season, which is very high for hockey. It was also profitable against Pinnacle, the world’s most reputable sportsbook. Again, it’s been just one season, but the results have been good enough to be relatively trustworthy.

- Atomic Wedgie


Remember when Yost was so proud that Corsi correctly predicted 15 of the 16 teams that would make the playoffs in January.

The actual standings in January also predicted 15 of the 16 teams.

... So did the actual standings.

Most of the advanced stats proponents are idiots.

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 22 @ 12:15 PM ET
thanks a lot Lou

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 22 @ 12:17 PM ET
"The projections are based on 50,000 simulations of the remainder of the season, which factors in each team’s projected strength, current health, and their strength of schedule (which includes opponent strength, venue and rest). "

He then has a page which goes into further details. Basically he assigns values to each player, and then spits out a number based on calculations. Much like James Tanner, he has trouble recognizing that when you feed 5 subjective numbers into a formula, the sum it spits out isn't necessarily "fact."

From his FAQ:

How accurate are these?

Last year they were within +/- 9.9 points of the actual results. That sounds bad (and it is because the year before most models were within eight or nine), but that’s largely because last year was much less predictable than recent seasons. Compared to every other public point projection I found, this model was actually the best one. Go me! Keep in mind that’s just one season, but it’s still pretty good. You can also see Micah McCurdy’s assessment of different playoff probabilities last season to see this model had the right idea about many teams quicker than most. During the playoffs, it did pretty well compared to the other models. too. On a game-by-game basis, it predicted the favourite correctly 59.4 percent of the time last season, which is very high for hockey. It was also profitable against Pinnacle, the world’s most reputable sportsbook. Again, it’s been just one season, but the results have been good enough to be relatively trustworthy.

- Atomic Wedgie


I really hope the Leafs have real data scientists working with them.

Any real data analyst would build a model based on historical data. I know the sample size of 100 seasons is pretty small but still beats trying to invent a formula on a whim, because you like sports.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 22 @ 12:20 PM ET
I really hope the Leafs have real data scientists working with them.

Any real data analyst would build a model based on historical data. I know the sample size of 100 seasons is pretty small but still beats trying to invent a formula on a whim, because you like sports.

- TheMussel

It might be hard to get the Corsi for Reg Noble - the Arenas' leading scorer in 1917-18.

And they didn't award assists back then, so we will have to adjust the numbers for that.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 22 @ 12:24 PM ET
I really hope the Leafs have real data scientists working with them.

Any real data analyst would build a model based on historical data. I know the sample size of 100 seasons is pretty small but still beats trying to invent a formula on a whim, because you like sports.

- TheMussel


for sure anyone who doesnt factor in the 1922 nhl standings into thier models is an idiot
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 22 @ 12:27 PM ET
for sure anyone who doesnt factor in the 1922 nhl standings into thier models is an idiot
- senstroll


chill out bros, it was an exaggeration with a hint of sarcasm
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Mar 22 @ 12:29 PM ET
thanks a lot Lou


- senstroll


Kristen Shilton
‏Verified account @kristen_shilton
27m27 minutes ago

Asked Morgan Rielly what he thought of Eugene Melnyk’s comment that #Leafs “forgot about defence” in rebuild: “That’s funny. I don’t really have any comment on that except it’s pretty funny.”
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