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James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
James Tanner: Arizona Coyotes Get Set for the P̶l̶a̶y̶o̶f̶f̶s̶ Draft Lottery
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Apr 9 @ 10:34 AM ET
theres no such thing as a loser point. that is a hockey point. it is a reward for sixty minutes of hockey before the winner is decided by a skills competition(3 on 3 or shootout). The extra point for the winner is called the skills competition point.
GeriHattric7
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 01.23.2019

Apr 9 @ 10:42 AM ET
I agree, I don't like the loser point. The NHL just needs to make every game worth 3 points. That would end this conversation. 3 points for a regulation win, 2 for an OT/SO win, 1 for an OT/SO loss and 0 for a regulation loss. Not sure what the harm in doing this is? Can anyone let me know why this would be a bad idea? Or is there another solution? Or we could go back to ending in a tie, which I would be in favor of rather than the loser point.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Apr 9 @ 10:47 AM ET
another fresh piece. jimmy come on man mix it up just a little.

its all luck anyway no?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 9 @ 10:49 AM ET
The Prize is Jack Hughes, a player projected to be up there with Connor McDavid and Auston Matthews as the best players in the NHL.
I don’t think Mathews is close to McDavid and I don’t think Hughes will be close to Mathews.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Apr 9 @ 10:50 AM ET
Overtime & Shootouts are a coin toss for who wins. Tanner is basically saying because Colorado got unlucky in OT & SO, they don't deserve playoffs. But if Toronto had missed the playoffs because they went 3-12 in the post regulation coin toss, you can guarantee he'd be talking about how unfair that was too.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 9 @ 10:54 AM ET
I was skimming your article, and for a second I thought Paul Simon was playing at the lottery.

Mrs. Robinson feels like an odd choice
Judeman5000
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Thornton, CO
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
I guess we're just going to overlook the Avalanche having a goal differential that was 24 points higher than Arizona?
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
I guess we're just going to overlook the Avalanche having a goal differential that was 24 points higher than Arizona?
- Judeman5000



If you're going to take this article seriously, then 100% do that.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 9 @ 11:04 AM ET
theres no such thing as a loser point. that is a hockey point. it is a reward for sixty minutes of hockey before the winner is decided by a skills competition(3 on 3 or shootout). The extra point for the winner is called the skills competition point.
- Njuice



Do you also write angry letters to the Onion?
Judeman5000
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Thornton, CO
Joined: 01.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 11:08 AM ET
That's a very odd response.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Apr 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
I often get angry at onions. Actually it's more the dumbass McDonalds employees who can't understand the meaning of no onions
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
The Prize is Jack Hughes, a player projected to be up there with Connor McDavid and Auston Matthews as the best players in the NHL.
I don’t think Mathews is close to McDavid and I don’t think Hughes will be close to Mathews.

- Ross77



Consensus is that Hughes is the Number 1 pick, but many feel that Kakko is right there behind him, and that his size and grit could make him just as good, if not better over time.. After those two, there is quite a bit of a drop off.

As a NYR fan, I'd rather get 2nd pick....That way we can't stress over who we should've/could've taken at #1. Who knows, Gorton might take another goalie anyway
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 9 @ 11:35 AM ET
Consensus is that Hughes is the Number 1 pick, but many feel that Kakko is right there behind him, and that his size and grit could make him just as good, if not better over time.. After those two, there is quite a bit of a drop off.

As a NYR fan, I'd rather get 2nd pick....That way we can't stress over who we should've/could've taken at #1. Who knows, Gorton might take another goalie anyway

- rrentz



I can pretty much guarantee you that if player A is more talented, but player B has size and grit, that player A will 100% be the better player. It's almost like certain kinds of hockey people are incapable of learning. And for the record, I don't mean you, the specific poster. It's just funny, in general, that we're still overrating players in 2019 because of size and grit.

I remember people on draft day saying Debrincit should be a top ten pick, just for example.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 9 @ 11:58 AM ET
I can pretty much guarantee you that if player A is more talented, but player B has size and grit, that player A will 100% be the better player. It's almost like certain kinds of hockey people are incapable of learning. And for the record, I don't mean you, the specific poster. It's just funny, in general, that we're still overrating players in 2019 because of size and grit.

I remember people on draft day saying Debrincit should be a top ten pick, just for example.

- James_Tanner

So the more talented player is more talented? Groundbreaking. Maybe you really are extremely educated
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Apr 9 @ 12:08 PM ET
I agree, I don't like the loser point. The NHL just needs to make every game worth 3 points. That would end this conversation. 3 points for a regulation win, 2 for an OT/SO win, 1 for an OT/SO loss and 0 for a regulation loss. Not sure what the harm in doing this is? Can anyone let me know why this would be a bad idea? Or is there another solution? Or we could go back to ending in a tie, which I would be in favor of rather than the loser point.
- GeriHattric7

Because it would knock teams out of the playoff race sooner.

Yeah, I know you don't like this answer, but there it is.
GeriHattric7
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 01.23.2019

Apr 9 @ 12:20 PM ET
Because it would knock teams out of the playoff race sooner.

Yeah, I know you don't like this answer, but there it is.

- Atomic Wedgie


That is a great answer and explains why the NHL will refuse to change. Keeps people coming to the arena for what might be meaningless games otherwise.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 9 @ 12:36 PM ET
I can pretty much guarantee you that if player A is more talented, but player B has size and grit, that player A will 100% be the better player. It's almost like certain kinds of hockey people are incapable of learning. And for the record, I don't mean you, the specific poster. It's just funny, in general, that we're still overrating players in 2019 because of size and grit.

I remember people on draft day saying Debrincit should be a top ten pick, just for example.

- James_Tanner

Kakko just had one of the best u18 seasons ever in the Finnish league. What are you blabbering about.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Kakko just had one of the best u18 seasons ever in the Finnish league. What are blabbering about.
- tomburton99

Does Kakko rent or own?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
Does Kakko rent or own?
- eichiefs9

He'll probably own because he's not an idiot.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 9 @ 1:20 PM ET
I agree, I don't like the loser point. The NHL just needs to make every game worth 3 points. That would end this conversation. 3 points for a regulation win, 2 for an OT/SO win, 1 for an OT/SO loss and 0 for a regulation loss. Not sure what the harm in doing this is? Can anyone let me know why this would be a bad idea? Or is there another solution? Or we could go back to ending in a tie, which I would be in favor of rather than the loser point.
- GeriHattric7


The current system creates an illusion of parity, which makes the games mean more, which means more viewers and therefore more $$ for the league. No way in hell they're gonna stop.
Goislanders
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.09.2018

Apr 9 @ 1:23 PM ET
I agree, I don't like the loser point. The NHL just needs to make every game worth 3 points. That would end this conversation. 3 points for a regulation win, 2 for an OT/SO win, 1 for an OT/SO loss and 0 for a regulation loss. Not sure what the harm in doing this is? Can anyone let me know why this would be a bad idea? Or is there another solution? Or we could go back to ending in a tie, which I would be in favor of rather than the loser point.
- GeriHattric7


It's a great and obvious solution. In that case Colorado would have 123 points and Arizona would have 116 points, so Colorado would still be safely in the play off.

It's not a good/lucky thing to lose 14 times in OT!
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Apr 9 @ 2:11 PM ET
Does NHL Network in United States have the lottery on tonight???
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Apr 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
Does NHL Network in United States have the lottery on tonight???
- BlackhawkMike

NBC sports?

Edit: Yup NBC sports @ 8pm.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Apr 9 @ 2:28 PM ET
The Prize is Jack Hughes, a player projected to be up there with Connor McDavid and Auston Matthews as the best players in the NHL.


I bleed the blue and white but Auston isn't even the best player on his own team, let alone the whole league. Top 10? Maybe.
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