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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:35 PM ET
anyone see the terms?
- daryl stanley

just long enough for him not to be a lame duck
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:35 PM ET
5 yrs 25 million.
- PLindbergh31

well that's a little more than what Davey was getting
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Apr 15 @ 4:37 PM ET
25 mill over 5 years per Lebrun.


Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun · 29m29 minutes ago


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Pierre LeBrun Retweeted Philadelphia Flyers

Vigneault signs for $25 M over five years according to a source

- hockeylover

damn he has a hell of an agent....wow
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:37 PM ET
well that's a little more than what Davey was getting
- 2Real


Well yeah. Better resume = more money. It's like that in every job.
Financial terms for coaches shouldn't bother fans. The money doesn't count against the cap obviously, and if the guy isn't getting the job done they fire him.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 15 @ 4:37 PM ET
Umm...Yes, Nolan Patrick is being groomed to be the nice guy one after Giroux. Why wouldn’t he be? Patrick is a former second overall pick, who could have potentially went number one and went on to make the team out of camp.

Am I way off base here?

- SuperSchennBros


Personally, I think Laughton should be the nice guy one after Giroux.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:39 PM ET
Well yeah. Better resume = more money. It's like that in every job.
Financial terms for coaches shouldn't bother fans. The money doesn't count against the cap obviously, and if the guy isn't getting the job done they fire him.

- PLindbergh31

maybe they're getting rid of AMac to offset his salary to comcast
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:40 PM ET
Well yeah. Better resume = more money. It's like that in every job.
Financial terms for coaches shouldn't bother fans. The money doesn't count against the cap obviously, and if the guy isn't getting the job done they fire him.

- PLindbergh31


Yeah. I don't give a damn what they pay him as long as he gets the ship righted here.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:41 PM ET
maybe they're getting rid of AMac to offset his salary to comcast
- 2Real


A-Mac will be bought out I believe.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:41 PM ET
25 mill over 5 years per Lebrun.


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Vigneault signs for $25 M over five years according to a source

- hockeylover


I’m fine with the hire. I was hoping they would wait a little bit to see whatever coaches might become available after the playoffs but truth be told, alain vigneault is a big fish and we needed a big fish. He has a system. He has along resume of success in the nhl. I know there are some who wanted to keep Scott Gordon. I don’t see why but that’s how they felt. I’m not saying Vigneault is Barry Trotz but Trotz is also a big fish that turned a team around that would likely be nowhere without him.

The Flyers have probably only had 3 to 5 great coaches in it’s franchise’s history.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:42 PM ET
Yeah. I don't give a damn what they pay him as long as he gets the ship righted here.
- Hextall271


I'm more confident in Vigneault then I am in Fletcher. If AV has a solid roster to work with, he will be successful.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:43 PM ET
Personally, I think Laughton should be the nice guy one after Giroux.
- Ftown19125

The floor is yours Ftown. Clearly you’re still butt hurt about something and you now have an audience. It isn’t a lonely Friday night anymore. What did I walk back to exactly and what am I lying about today?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:43 PM ET
is AV going to replace the production of Gordon? I can't figure this out
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Apr 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
I’m fine with the hire. I was hoping they would wait a little bit to see whatever coaches might become available after the playoffs but truth be told, alain vigneault is a big fish and we needed a big fish. He has a system. He has along resume of success in the nhl. I know there are some who wanted to keep Scott Gordon. I don’t see why but that’s how they felt. I’m not saying Vigneault is Barry Trotz but Trotz is also a big fish that turned a team around that would likely be nowhere without him.

The Flyers have probably only had 3 to 5 great coaches in it’s franchise’s history.

- SuperSchennBros



What they are doing to the Penguins is a beautiful thing!! I am thoroughly enjoying that series.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 15 @ 4:47 PM ET
What they are doing to the Penguins is a beautiful thing!! I am thoroughly enjoying that series.
- hockeylover

Oh my god, me too.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
What's Trainwreck

Flyers Fans Enjoy The Treadmill of Mediocrity

3x failure...what could go wrong????
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
What's Trainwreck

Flyers Fans Enjoy The Treadmill of Mediocrity

3x failure...what could go wrong????

- penguininnevada

2019 post season, Crosby zero points, Giroux zero points...
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
What's Trainwreck

Flyers Fans Enjoy The Treadmill of Mediocrity

3x failure...what could go wrong????

- penguininnevada

You’re about to get swept by the New York (frank)ing Islanders. And you come here to troll? Hahaha, ok then.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 15 @ 4:57 PM ET
What's Trainwreck

Flyers Fans Enjoy The Treadmill of Mediocrity

3x failure...what could go wrong????

- penguininnevada


Haha. Penguins on the decline. Really glad they blew all those first rounders in recent years and are in cap hell. Gonna be fun to watch the decline and subsequent discussion on where they'll move to when all the fair weather fans abandon ship
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Apr 15 @ 4:59 PM ET
What's Trainwreck

Flyers Fans Enjoy The Treadmill of Mediocrity

3x failure...what could go wrong????

- penguininnevada


the 2019-2020 Pens....

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 5:03 PM ET
Can an old coach learn new tricks?

Hopefully AV has learned how to better manage young players

- bulet13


This idea that Vigneault doesn't manage young players well is a media invented narrative that is nonsense.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 5:03 PM ET
Haha. Penguins on the decline. Really glad they blew all those first rounders in recent years and are in cap hell. Gonna be fun to watch the decline and subsequent discussion on where they'll move to when all the fair weather fans abandon ship
- Hextall271

they'll just threaten bankruptcy and get the next crosby
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 15 @ 5:04 PM ET
This idea that Vigneault doesn't manage young players well is a media invented narrative that is nonsense.
- MJL

i'd trust them over you
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Apr 15 @ 5:04 PM ET
I'm more confident in Vigneault then I am in Fletcher. If AV has a solid roster to work with, he will be successful.
- PLindbergh31

I feel the same. However, I think Fletcher had to go out and hire a coach that has been successful in the NHL and that's what he did.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 5:04 PM ET
Yeah. That's bad. I agree with him on the hextall front! I'm the end it sounded like it was more that the owners didn't like him nor the fact that the building wasn't sold out. Just glad fletch hasn't gone wild trading picks and youth.
- Hextall271


I also agree on the Hextall front but we still have to be open minded and give Fletcher a chance. He mad a good hire for a coach. Vigneault is a better coach than both Hakstol and Gordon.
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Apr 15 @ 5:07 PM ET
I posted this on Eklund's blog too.

all this paranoia about Vigneault sitting the kids and overplaying the old trusty vets is silly

Chill. Can't happen won't happen. Flyers have almost no older players to overplay.

Their 5 oldest forwards:

31 Giroux
30 Raffl
29 Voracek
29 JVR
26 Couturier

Here's how old their D is:

32 MacDonald
28 Gudas
25 Gostisbehere
24 Hagg
23 Sanheim
23 Morin
22 Provorov
22 Myers


And many of our depth forwards are gonna be young guys like Laughton (24) and Hartman (24) and Lindblom (22). Maybe Bailey (23) or Vorobyev (22). There might even be some younger guys coming up like Frost and Farabee (19 going on 20).
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