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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Impressions of, and questions concerning--F, Sam Reinhart
MTLSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 03.12.2013

Apr 14 @ 12:41 PM ET
First!

The Rodney Dangerfield of current Sabres roster...
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I can call you Housley, and Housley when you call me, you call this Hell
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 14 @ 12:42 PM ET
Where is his production plateau and when will he hit it? Is a point/game a reasonable career high? Can he carry a second line next year if the Sabres fail to add a legit No. 2 center? Can Buffalo get more out of him even strength? What will he and his agent be looking for contract-wise?


Nice work.

Can he elevate a 2C while getting 60-65 points himself at RW? That's the ideal scenario for him imo.

If I could throw another wrench in the works, I have this thought as well: We all know Reinhart is not a center, but does Housley not deserve some blame for not trying Reinhart at center when Eichel was hurt? Or when Mittelstadt struggled? Wouldn't that have at least been interesting? It's kinda puzzling in retrospect that it wasn't even an option for the player who was drafted as a center.

I get that it's not fair to expect Reinhart to be a center when he hasn't shown the ability to do that in the NHL, but it feels like another lost opportunity to see what would have happened in a lost season.

But yeah, 60-65 points at RW while not playing with Eichel should be the goal
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:46 PM ET
UPL starting for Rochester is......... interesting...
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:48 PM ET
Nice work.

Can he elevate a 2C while getting 60-65 points himself at RW? That's the ideal scenario for him imo.

If I could throw another wrench in the works, I have this thought as well: We all know Reinhart is not a center, but does Housley not deserve some blame for not trying Reinhart at center when Eichel was hurt? Or when Mittelstadt struggled? Wouldn't that have at least been interesting? It's kinda puzzling in retrospect that it wasn't even an option for the player who was drafted as a center.

I get that it's not fair to expect Reinhart to be a center when he hasn't shown the ability to do that in the NHL, but it feels like another lost opportunity to see what would have happened in a lost season.

But yeah, 60-65 points at RW while not playing with Eichel should be the goal

- jcragcrumple


ott is not a center!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:49 PM ET
UPL starting for Rochester is......... interesting...
- gordong

why not?...let him get his feet wet...right?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 14 @ 12:49 PM ET
I think Olofsson-Mittelstadt-Reinhart is a line we can hang our hat on moving forward. Hopefully Skinner resigns so that way we have stability on the top line with him and Eichel. We need another stud top 9 Centre and another winger and a PP coach that knows what he’s doing and we are off to the races.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 14 @ 12:51 PM ET
UPL starting for Rochester is......... interesting...
- gordong


It’s a meaningless game for Rochester. Good for him to get experience. Maybe he steals the show and starts against the Marlies in the playoffs.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 14 @ 12:59 PM ET
UPL starting for Rochester is......... interesting...
- gordong


It’s pretty exciting hopefully he does great and starts in the playoffs
716
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.07.2018

Apr 14 @ 1:08 PM ET
Have any of us even think about a possible rino trade this summer ? Maybe instead of risto
TheHank
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Metro, MN
Joined: 01.11.2017

Apr 14 @ 1:09 PM ET
Have any of us even think about a possible rino trade this summer ? Maybe instead of risto
- 716

Yes
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 14 @ 1:12 PM ET
Risto and pick 7 for extended Hall and a 2nd.

Remember when we didnt trade risto for hall?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I can call you Housley, and Housley when you call me, you call this Hell
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 14 @ 1:17 PM ET
Have any of us even think about a possible rino trade this summer ? Maybe instead of risto
- 716


Are we really in a position where we can afford to lose his 20 goals? Unless you're trading him for a center, but what team is trading a center for a winger? I guess I don't see how it helps. I'd be open to it next year, depending how much he wants
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 14 @ 1:18 PM ET
Have any of us even think about a possible rino trade this summer ? Maybe instead of risto
- 716


Nope. Last time I checked, the object is to have good players on your team. We keep listing possible trade scenarios in here where we're trading away our good players. Samson is a good player ... we need to keep him.
716
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.07.2018

Apr 14 @ 1:27 PM ET
Are we really in a position where we can afford to lose his 20 goals? Unless you're trading him for a center, but what team is trading a center for a winger? I guess I don't see how it helps. I'd be open to it next year, depending how much he wants
- jcragcrumple

Fair enough. Didn’t think of it that way
notalent
Buffalo Sabres
Location: lake placid, NY
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 14 @ 1:30 PM ET
Rhino's skating did improve this year, but he's still about average. The problem with trying him back at center, which might solve some of our issues, is that centers generally have more ice to cover.

Unless he were to transition into more of a two way center a la ROR or Kopitar who don't rely on scoring off the rush...but that's a bit of stretch.
notalent
Buffalo Sabres
Location: lake placid, NY
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 14 @ 1:35 PM ET
Have any of us even think about a possible rino trade this summer ? Maybe instead of risto
- 716

Agreed with those above, that it doesn't make any sense for the Sabres to trade youth and nhl proven talent away at this point. It's rare for a team to do that, which is what makes the Montour trade so remarkable and underrated.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 14 @ 1:40 PM ET
Risto and pick 7 for extended Hall and a 2nd.

Remember when we didnt trade risto for hall?

- Mentalorgasm5


Can we just do risto for hall
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 14 @ 1:42 PM ET
Have any of us even think about a possible rino trade this summer ? Maybe instead of risto
- 716


Risto is 100% gone

If he goes to Tampa it better not be for garbage the starting player better be foote
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 14 @ 1:46 PM ET
Can we just do risto for hall
- gerbe75pts

I doubt we would have got dahlin. But skinner, eichel and hall in the top 6 would have been fun.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 3 GM's, 5 Coaches and 3 Owners it's 2019 and still picking in top 6. Las Vegas Via BUFFALO NEW YORK
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
Risto is 100% gone

If he goes to Tampa it better not be for garbage the starting player better be foote

- gerbe75pts

No he's not
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 14 @ 1:59 PM ET
Cal Foote isn't going to be included in any deal for Risto.

Why on earth would Tampa trade a 20 yr old, cost controlled, big RhD, who plays with toughness ready to jump to the NHL for older, expensive, RhD who plays a tough game once in 20 games?

They need toughness, so I do think they will continue to be interested in Risto, 'cause he loves to play tough against Kucherov and Ovie, and 1 or 2 others for his 10 games of toughness per year.

They have 3 Dmen aged 32, 33, 34 consuming $11.2m on a soon to be Cap strapped team needing to find an additional $5m in Cap Space. They need to replace at least 2 if not all three and Cal is targeted for 1 if them.

To get them to include Foote, you better give them another solid Dman, and would absolutely need to take Callahan or Tyler Johnson off their hands. Taking Johnson at 29 next season and 5 years of term at $5m would not be in the best interest of the Sabres.



jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I can call you Housley, and Housley when you call me, you call this Hell
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
No he's not
- SABRES 89


I'm with Gerbe. He's 100% gone. I'd bet 34,000 internet points on it. He's one of like 3 tradeable assets with any value
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 3 GM's, 5 Coaches and 3 Owners it's 2019 and still picking in top 6. Las Vegas Via BUFFALO NEW YORK
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 14 @ 2:03 PM ET
I'm with Gerbe. He's 100% gone. I'd bet 34,000 internet points on it. He's one of like 3 tradeable assets with any value
- jcragcrumple

ok
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 14 @ 2:04 PM ET
Cal Foote isn't going to be included in any deal for Risto.

Why on earth would Tampa trade a 20 yr old, cost controlled, big RhD, who plays with toughness ready to jump to the NHL for older, expensive, RhD who plays a tough game once in 20 games?

They need toughness, so I do think they will continue to be interested in Risto, 'cause he loves to play tough against Kucherov and Ovie, and 1 or 2 others for his 10 games of toughness per year.

They have 3 Dmen aged 32, 33, 34 consuming $11.2m on a soon to be Cap strapped team needing to find an additional $5m in Cap Space. They need to replace at least 2 if not all three and Cal is targeted for 1 if them.

To get them to include Foote, you better give them another solid Dman, and would absolutely need to take Callahan or Tyler Johnson off their hands. Taking Johnson at 29 next season and 5 years of term at $5m would not be in the best interest of the Sabres.

- IonSabres

They wont be getting Risto for Callahan, Joseph and 3rd line center.

No Tampa then. Move on to somewhere else.
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