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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 11:44 AM ET
While you'd rather have Kessel shooting as opposed to Johnson or Gudbranson, you also need to take what the other team gives you. If they'll let the d fire shots from the point, then that's what you do. They don't have to be hard, they just need to get to the net for redirects or rebounds. Easier said that done, but if the Isles take away the slot, then fire away form the point...can't really do much worse.
- jmatchett383


Oh I get that. I’m not saying they shouldn’t take those shots at all. Just pointing out what I’m seeing with my spreadsheets.
ReginaPEN15
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 04.15.2016

Apr 15 @ 11:50 AM ET
I wonder if JR kept his first because he knew he was gonna to have to use it to get rid of JJ.
- j.boyd919


It makes me mad/sad that you may be right.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 11:55 AM ET
It makes me mad/sad that you may be right.
- ReginaPEN15


Hahaha I definitely don’t think that he’s going to trade JJ. I was being facetious hahaha.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
Hahaha I definitely don’t think that he’s going to trade JJ. I was being facetious hahaha.
- j.boyd919


Sadly, the pairs we see now will likely be what we see all year next season.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
Sadly, the pairs we see now will likely be what we see all year next season.
- Rinosaur


Yep. It’s a sad day.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
Yep. It’s a sad day.
- j.boyd919


I think there’s only one of two ways JJ gets moved/bought out and both are unlikely:

1) There’s a change at GM
2) Ownership tells him to get rid of JJ

I’m sure Tortorella is having a good laugh about all of this.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:40 PM ET
I think there’s only one of two ways JJ gets moved/bought out and both are unlikely:

1) There’s a change at GM
2) Ownership tells him to get rid of JJ

I’m sure Tortorella is having a good laugh about all of this.

- Rinosaur


Rutherford just signed a new deal. Sully isn't leaving either. The fact that JJ was scratched to start the playoffs is a pretty strong "tell" that the coach would probably not have him on his team if he had his choice. I forget who said it.... One of the beat writers.... He said Sullivan is actually much more into analytics than most people think.

I just wished the GM and Coach would prove they communicate before personnel decisions are made.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Get the Cup back, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Apr 15 @ 12:40 PM ET
Maybe they can send JJ to Seattle a year early to get to know the city better.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Get the Cup back, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Apr 15 @ 12:42 PM ET
Rutherford just signed a new deal. Sully isn't leaving either. The fact that JJ was scratched to start the playoffs is a pretty strong "tell" that the coach would probably not have him on his team if he had his choice. I forget who said it.... One of the beat writers.... He said Sullivan is actually much more into analytics than most people think.

I just wished the GM and Coach would prove they communicate before personnel decisions are made.

- madmike71


I definitely think there is a disconnect with JR and Sully when it comes to certain moves like the Reaves trade and the JJ signing.
ReginaPEN15
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 04.15.2016

Apr 15 @ 12:43 PM ET
Hahaha I definitely don’t think that he’s going to trade JJ. I was being facetious hahaha.
- j.boyd919


I figured....but am kinda scared at the possibility.
ReginaPEN15
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 04.15.2016

Apr 15 @ 12:44 PM ET
Maybe they can send JJ to Seattle a year early to get to know the city better.
- acdc1206


Yes Please! LOL
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:45 PM ET
FWIW, if the Pens didn't trade Sheary and never signed JJ, who would be taking his place? Rikola? Would that be any better?
DrBassie
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: FL
Joined: 08.30.2006

Apr 15 @ 12:49 PM ET
I can't argue with any of this blog.

JJ is not good. Don't like Maatta's lack of speed? Put in Riikola. I'm surprised they put Trotman over him when injury it. I'll take all three of them over JJ.

As far as Crosby goes, his board play continues to be a wonder to watch. It's nearly impossible to take the puck away from him. I know he likes to create but he needs to start shooting more. He's gone back to the days (a couple seasons ago?, where I think he won the Rocket the next year) where he almost refused to shoot.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 15 @ 12:50 PM ET
FWIW, if the Pens didn't trade Sheary and never signed JJ, who would be taking his place? Rikola? Would that be any better?
- jmatchett383


Thats pretty hypothetical....maybe Rudy?

Also, the ripple effect through the season is impossible to know. I would say they'd of traded for someone else after a month or two of Rikola.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 15 @ 12:51 PM ET
https://thesportsdaily.com/2019/04/15/who-makes-sense-to-play-on-sidney-crosbys-right-wing-p1b1/

Good read about Simon if anyone’s interested.

- j.boyd919


"Sidney Crosby is not a human being part 2389472938472 but Guentzel is drunk apparently"


All of that article is true. I said after game 2 the one plus I saw was the change from Rust to Simon was actually creating chances. Like you said Jake has completely lost his hands. He is also just not making good plays anywhere on the ice.

No one on this team has been great but it's not entirely Sid's fault he has no points. Regular Season Jake would've had 3 at least by my count.

Sid does have to be more selfish in some of these situations. Leave it all out there next game.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 15 @ 12:54 PM ET
FWIW, if the Pens didn't trade Sheary and never signed JJ, who would be taking his place? Rikola? Would that be any better?
- jmatchett383


I’d prefer hunwick and sheary to JJ.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 15 @ 12:59 PM ET
The swagger that Ryan Reaves provides to Vegas cannot be understated

and the 9 goals and 20 points for a 4th liner aint nothing either.....
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 15 @ 1:00 PM ET
I’d prefer hunwick and sheary to JJ.
- j.boyd919



All day, every day, any day.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 15 @ 1:01 PM ET
The swagger that Ryan Reaves provides to Vegas cannot be understated

and the 9 goals and 20 points for a 4th liner aint nothing either.....

- RoloTahmasee



Soooo...Pens wouldnt be down 0-3 to the Isles if they had Reaves?
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:02 PM ET
Soooo...Pens wouldnt be down 0-3 to the Isles if they had Reaves?
- MattStrat


Maybe Reaves would be running down Barzal and Eberle like Matt Martin is doing to Crosby and Guentzel?

Reaves is hitting everything in sight in the Sharks series and it is getting to their players
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 15 @ 1:07 PM ET
Maybe Reaves would be running down Barzal and Eberle like Matt Martin is doing to Crosby and Guentzel?

Reaves is hitting everything in sight in the Sharks series and it is getting to their players

- RoloTahmasee



Also worth mentioning is Stone and Stastny having 5 point nights each...might be a factor...
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:07 PM ET
Even Kuhnackel looks good on the ISLES.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:09 PM ET
FWIW, if the Pens didn't trade Sheary and never signed JJ, who would be taking his place? Rikola? Would that be any better?
- jmatchett383


You could argue they could have gone after any number of other Dmen in a hypothetical situation. Hamilton, Hannifin, Faulk etc.....
Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Apr 15 @ 1:10 PM ET
Perhaps GMJR just isn't that good of a GM?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
The swagger that Ryan Reaves provides to Vegas cannot be understated

and the 9 goals and 20 points for a 4th liner aint nothing either.....

- RoloTahmasee


The Reaves trade was the first move that showed the Pens going away from their identity.
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