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Paul McCann
Nashville Predators
Location: Nolensville, TN
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 21 @ 8:59 AM ET
Paul McCann: Answers are hard to come by
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
I don't know why Poille does so much fussing with his post season rosters.
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Apr 21 @ 10:53 AM ET
Yeah, let's face it, the Blues deserved the division. Both the Jets and Preds were garbage down the stretch. This outcome did not surprise me, they can't win at home when it counts.

Coaching change is needed, because we aren't blowing up the team. Need someone who likes discipline, tight defense and can motivate a team that just doesn't seem to care. Tweak a few roster spots (Turris, Ellis, PK...). I'd be happy returning to the shut down defense we used to be, just because we've been so god awful in that area its sickening.

Oh, and someone who can craft a power play.

That's all. Thanks.
Polecat
Nashville Predators
Joined: 11.01.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:04 AM ET
Yeah, let's face it, the Blues deserved the division. Both the Jets and Preds were garbage down the stretch. This outcome did not surprise me, they can't win at home when it counts.

Coaching change is needed, because we aren't blowing up the team. Need someone who likes discipline, tight defense and can motivate a team that just doesn't seem to care. Tweak a few roster spots (Turris, Ellis, PK...). I'd be happy returning to the shut down defense we used to be, just because we've been so god awful in that area its sickening.

Oh, and someone who can craft a power play.

That's all. Thanks.

- FoxMulder


It’s technically not over, but it might as well be. I agree about Turris, Ellis, and PK. Yes, get someone who can coach the power play.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Apr 21 @ 11:13 AM ET
Don't matter what they try to do. Like I said before this team is not the same. Whatever happened to their swagger. From the outside could it be a locker room issue?.
Seriously asking have anyone of you guys or gal's heard anything remotely to this. This team has way too much talent to just not make it out of the 1st round.
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Apr 21 @ 11:38 AM ET
Don't matter what they try to do. Like I said before this team is not the same. Whatever happened to their swagger. From the outside could it be a locker room issue?.
Seriously asking have anyone of you guys or gal's heard anything remotely to this. This team has way too much talent to just not make it out of the 1st round.

- BGKarras


There's been rumbling among fans that the locker room is suspect, but you'll get nothing but the canned stuff from the players and coaches. I just wonder if Poile has the stones to do something or if he's on the "It'll work out" bandwagon.

Broadstreetbullies
Joined: 02.20.2019

Apr 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
Poole is guilty as well. Didn't have the stones to get a scorer. The time is not but not right now.....come on GM trade the farm and win
Polecat
Nashville Predators
Joined: 11.01.2006

Apr 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
Don't matter what they try to do. Like I said before this team is not the same. Whatever happened to their swagger. From the outside could it be a locker room issue?.
Seriously asking have anyone of you guys or gal's heard anything remotely to this. This team has way too much talent to just not make it out of the 1st round.

- BGKarras


I agree with all of this. They look uninspired
and something is clearly off, but what is it? Maybe we’ll find out at some point.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Apr 21 @ 12:35 PM ET
There's been rumbling among fans that the locker room is suspect, but you'll get nothing but the canned stuff from the players and coaches. I just wonder if Poile has the stones to do something or if he's on the "It'll work out" bandwagon.


- FoxMulder

You will always get the company line from the players and coaches. There were some rumblings pertaining to the Hawks in the past. Things kind of worked out for the short term and verdict is still out long term effects. I think Forsberg is a great talent and he is trying but he is letting his emotions get the best of him. He should already know that he was going to be a target for Dallas all along. Still this team is more talented than the stars, they are just getting outworked.
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Apr 21 @ 12:38 PM ET
You will always get the company line from the players and coaches. There were some rumblings pertaining to the Hawks in the past. Things kind of worked out for the short term and verdict is still out long term effects. I think Forsberg is a great talent and he is trying but he is letting his emotions get the best of him. He should already know that he was going to be a target for Dallas all along. Still this team is more talented than the stars, they are just getting outworked.
- BGKarras


Seems like most of them let the emotions take over. And that's after spending two days talking about how they need to be composed...
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Apr 21 @ 12:54 PM ET
Seems like most of them let the emotions take over. And that's after spending two days talking about how they need to be composed...
- FoxMulder

Hopefully they can get it together like yesterday. When talking about Nashville there M/O has been and always will be to outwork the other team to be successful. You can't just turn on the switch whenever you want. Take a look at the Hawks no effort other than a period or two and pfft nothing other than playing golf again.
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Apr 21 @ 1:30 PM ET
Hopefully they can get it together like yesterday. When talking about Nashville there M/O has been and always will be to outwork the other team to be successful. You can't just turn on the switch whenever you want. Take a look at the Hawks no effort other than a period or two and pfft nothing other than playing golf again.
- BGKarras


I kinda wish they would take the Hawks example and get a good coach from the minors or other league, instead of a "name'. Lavy's good for 4 or 5 years but has the rep for falling off quickly. Looks like we may be at that point.
PREDX1
Nashville Predators
Location: Rock City, TN
Joined: 10.05.2011

Apr 21 @ 2:10 PM ET
Why is everyone down on PK Subban?? Turris I get, PK no, Nsh should keep him. Trade Ellis, Ekholm, Smith, Hammy, Boyle, Turris and a few others that I cant think of at the moment...

Lavy... maybe it is time to cut the ties, an impotent power play for two years in a row and its only gotten worse, and the whole team taking a nose dive...
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Apr 21 @ 2:13 PM ET
I kinda wish they would take the Hawks example and get a good coach from the minors or other league, instead of a "name'. Lavy's good for 4 or 5
- FoxMulder[/b]years but has the rep for falling off quickly. Looks like we may be at that point.

Yes it could be a good possibility that the team has tuned Lavy out. It happened with Q as well. The life shelf of a NHL coach is not as long as it used to be. Matter of fact that can be Said regarding any professional coach and team. Hey man I appreciate the back and forth. I'm usually not an ass all the time. It's just that Rash guy. Anyways I wish you and your family a Happy Easter and best of luck the rest of the series with Dallas. Anything is possible!
Squatchy
Nashville Predators
Location: Clarksville, TN
Joined: 05.09.2018

Apr 21 @ 7:32 PM ET
It's hard to explain exactly what's wrong with this team, because a lot of their issues aren't quite tangible. They can't be explained away by stats fancy or otherwise. It's the eye test argument, a gut feeling you get when you watch this team play every game that something isn't quite right. Expect for brief spurts you don't see a lot of passion or determination. The work ethic this team was once famous for is all but gone except for in a handful of players. I don't think the issue is locker room chemistry. I think the problem might be the opposite. They've gotten too chummy. Most of the guys have their contracts, and quite frankly, have gotten fat, lazy, and caught up in their own hype. They get their brains beat in, and they have this 'awe well, we'll get them tomorrow' mentality. Well, better stop shrugging your shoulders, because you're running out of tomorrows. Nobody gets angry, nobody's holding guys accountable. This might be one of those rare instances where it might do the team some good if a couple of guys start taking swings at each other in the locker room. How hard is it to pass the puck to your own teammates? 13 giveaways in the first period of a game they had no excuse not to be ready for. Stupid lazy turnovers have been the bane of this team all season.

Other issues are far more obvious. The power play, which has been way too easy for other teams to defend. The complete lack of a second line. The Turris trade looking like a dud, and his subsequent decent in the dumpster while clinging to matches and lighter fluid. Fiala and Smith regressing after career years last year. Subban getting hurt and not looking the same afterward. Ellis getting his big contract, when he probably should've been traded, and having a garbage year, quite frankly looking downright lazy at times while doing it. The defense looking undersized, overpaid, and overwhelmed.

The coaching issue is an interesting one. I still think Lavy is a good coach but he does have a track record of burning out fast. It's pretty clear too that this team doesn't quite have the personnel to run his offensive system. Not enough speed or skill, and guys who can get back and play defense when his quote 'five man attack' gets disrupted. They kind of had that when they had Neal, before Smith, Fiala and the big four regressed, but not so much anymore. Maybe it's time to bring in a coach who can put in a system more favorable to the skill sets of the players he has, instead of trying to smash square pegs into round holes.

I've always had a love hate relationship with David Poile. For every Forsberg and Subban trade though, we get a Kyle Turris or Franson/Santorelli trade. Remember when Viktor Stalberg and Eric Nystrom were supposed to solve all our offensive woes? At least David sure tried to sell it to us like that. Wonder if Fenton used the same tactic to try and sell Minny fans on Fiala? Learned from the best if he did. Some of this mess is on his head too. He's smart enough to know that this team would suffer down the line if he went all in on his revered defense, but he signed Ellis anyway knowing Josi, a much more valuable D-man, was coming due. It's true that there was no way to predict the entire Turris line would turn into pumpkins all at once, but it happened, and now most of your forward core are either underachieving or are more defensive style forwards who don't necessarily fit into your coach's system.

I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Most of us were celebrating at the trade deadline when Polie didn't burn down the farm to add to a team most of us didn't really see making it farther than the second round. We were all hoping we were wrong, perhaps gaining some optimism when they stole the division, but most of us saw this coming, just not quite this early. There's still two games left, so I'm not quite ready to plan the funeral procession just yet... Though I have rented the tux just in case.
Squatchy
Nashville Predators
Location: Clarksville, TN
Joined: 05.09.2018

Apr 21 @ 8:33 PM ET
Why is everyone down on PK Subban?? Turris I get, PK no, Nsh should keep him. Trade Ellis, Ekholm, Smith, Hammy, Boyle, Turris and a few others that I cant think of at the moment...

Lavy... maybe it is time to cut the ties, an impotent power play for two years in a row and its only gotten worse, and the whole team taking a nose dive...

- PREDX1


It's part a matter of preference and partly because of the type of player Subban is. As far as preference goes, I could ask you the same thing about Ekholm. He's had a horrible series, no denying that, but he was still our best defensive d-man all year by far. One bad playoff series doesn't mean he's suddenly garbage and we should get rid of him. If the Preds got rid of everyone that looked like crap in this series we'd have three guys left.

As far as Subban goes, he's the type of guy who's hard to put up with when he's not producing or on his game. Too much flopping, too much theatrics, too many bad turnovers and poor decisions. He has not had a good year, P.K. has even said so himself, so the hatters have a lot of ammunition right now. I'm personally from the camp that I can tolerate him when he's playing well, but right now eh... I'd rather see that 9m used to help balance out the team. I do love playoff P.K. though... He really ramps up his game this time of year.
Polecat
Nashville Predators
Joined: 11.01.2006

Apr 21 @ 9:06 PM ET
It's hard to explain exactly what's wrong with this team, because a lot of their issues aren't quite tangible. They can't be explained away by stats fancy or otherwise. It's the eye test argument, a gut feeling you get when you watch this team play every game that something isn't quite right. Expect for brief spurts you don't see a lot of passion or determination. The work ethic this team was once famous for is all but gone except for in a handful of players. I don't think the issue is locker room chemistry. I think the problem might be the opposite. They've gotten too chummy. Most of the guys have their contracts, and quite frankly, have gotten fat, lazy, and caught up in their own hype. They get their brains beat in, and they have this 'awe well, we'll get them tomorrow' mentality. Well, better stop shrugging your shoulders, because you're running out of tomorrows. Nobody gets angry, nobody's holding guys accountable. This might be one of those rare instances where it might do the team some good if a couple of guys start taking swings at each other in the locker room. How hard is it to pass the puck to your own teammates? 13 giveaways in the first period of a game they had no excuse not to be ready for. Stupid lazy turnovers have been the bane of this team all season.

Other issues are far more obvious. The power play, which has been way too easy for other teams to defend. The complete lack of a second line. The Turris trade looking like a dud, and his subsequent decent in the dumpster while clinging to matches and lighter fluid. Fiala and Smith regressing after career years last year. Subban getting hurt and not looking the same afterward. Ellis getting his big contract, when he probably should've been traded, and having a garbage year, quite frankly looking downright lazy at times while doing it. The defense looking undersized, overpaid, and overwhelmed.

The coaching issue is an interesting one. I still think Lavy is a good coach but he does have a track record of burning out fast. It's pretty clear too that this team doesn't quite have the personnel to run his offensive system. Not enough speed or skill, and guys who can get back and play defense when his quote 'five man attack' gets disrupted. They kind of had that when they had Neal, before Smith, Fiala and the big four regressed, but not so much anymore. Maybe it's time to bring in a coach who can put in a system more favorable to the skill sets of the players he has, instead of trying to smash square pegs into round holes.

I've always had a love hate relationship with David Poile. For every Forsberg and Subban trade though, we get a Kyle Turris or Franson/Santorelli trade. Remember when Viktor Stalberg and Eric Nystrom were supposed to solve all our offensive woes? At least David sure tried to sell it to us like that. Wonder if Fenton used the same tactic to try and sell Minny fans on Fiala? Learned from the best if he did. Some of this mess is on his head too. He's smart enough to know that this team would suffer down the line if he went all in on his revered defense, but he signed Ellis anyway knowing Josi, a much more valuable D-man, was coming due. It's true that there was no way to predict the entire Turris line would turn into pumpkins all at once, but it happened, and now most of your forward core are either underachieving or are more defensive style forwards who don't necessarily fit into your coach's system.

I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Most of us were celebrating at the trade deadline when Polie didn't burn down the farm to add to a team most of us didn't really see making it farther than the second round. We were all hoping we were wrong, perhaps gaining some optimism when they stole the division, but most of us saw this coming, just not quite this early. There's still two games left, so I'm not quite ready to plan the funeral procession just yet... Though I have rented the tux just in case.

- Squatchy


Thanks for keeping it real. Paul surely doesn’t! I agree with most of your narrative.
holycow_75
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 01.26.2012

Apr 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
Something is wrong in the room. The team, as constructed, is talented enough to win a cup, but only if everyone is playing at their best. Here are the priorities I see for Poile in the offseason:

1. Force Laviolette to make coaching changes. The PP and Defense are terrible. Maybe re-hire Housley, or move a different direction entirely with the assistants. If Lavy is unwilling to change his staff - then he may be at the end of the road with the Preds.

2. Re-sign Josi and trade either Subban or Ellis. Ellis has a reasonable contract - but the term and his performance leave some questions. Subban has played well, and has a big name - the return could be pretty strong for that. I don't see Turris at $6MM being a piece any other team would want to bring in. Preds are likely stuck with that contract.

3. Sign another legitimate scoring threat either at 2C or 2nd line winger in Free Agency (Duchene, Panarin, Skinner, Nelson - even Pavelski).
jockitch
Joined: 04.22.2010

Apr 22 @ 12:11 PM ET
It's hard to explain exactly what's wrong with this team, because a lot of their issues aren't quite tangible. They can't be explained away by stats fancy or otherwise. It's the eye test argument, a gut feeling you get when you watch this team play every game that something isn't quite right. Expect for brief spurts you don't see a lot of passion or determination. The work ethic this team was once famous for is all but gone except for in a handful of players. I don't think the issue is locker room chemistry. I think the problem might be the opposite. They've gotten too chummy. Most of the guys have their contracts, and quite frankly, have gotten fat, lazy, and caught up in their own hype. They get their brains beat in, and they have this 'awe well, we'll get them tomorrow' mentality. Well, better stop shrugging your shoulders, because you're running out of tomorrows. Nobody gets angry, nobody's holding guys accountable. This might be one of those rare instances where it might do the team some good if a couple of guys start taking swings at each other in the locker room. How hard is it to pass the puck to your own teammates? 13 giveaways in the first period of a game they had no excuse not to be ready for. Stupid lazy turnovers have been the bane of this team all season.

Other issues are far more obvious. The power play, which has been way too easy for other teams to defend. The complete lack of a second line. The Turris trade looking like a dud, and his subsequent decent in the dumpster while clinging to matches and lighter fluid. Fiala and Smith regressing after career years last year. Subban getting hurt and not looking the same afterward. Ellis getting his big contract, when he probably should've been traded, and having a garbage year, quite frankly looking downright lazy at times while doing it. The defense looking undersized, overpaid, and overwhelmed.

The coaching issue is an interesting one. I still think Lavy is a good coach but he does have a track record of burning out fast. It's pretty clear too that this team doesn't quite have the personnel to run his offensive system. Not enough speed or skill, and guys who can get back and play defense when his quote 'five man attack' gets disrupted. They kind of had that when they had Neal, before Smith, Fiala and the big four regressed, but not so much anymore. Maybe it's time to bring in a coach who can put in a system more favorable to the skill sets of the players he has, instead of trying to smash square pegs into round holes.

I've always had a love hate relationship with David Poile. For every Forsberg and Subban trade though, we get a Kyle Turris or Franson/Santorelli trade. Remember when Viktor Stalberg and Eric Nystrom were supposed to solve all our offensive woes? At least David sure tried to sell it to us like that. Wonder if Fenton used the same tactic to try and sell Minny fans on Fiala? Learned from the best if he did. Some of this mess is on his head too. He's smart enough to know that this team would suffer down the line if he went all in on his revered defense, but he signed Ellis anyway knowing Josi, a much more valuable D-man, was coming due. It's true that there was no way to predict the entire Turris line would turn into pumpkins all at once, but it happened, and now most of your forward core are either underachieving or are more defensive style forwards who don't necessarily fit into your coach's system.

I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Most of us were celebrating at the trade deadline when Polie didn't burn down the farm to add to a team most of us didn't really see making it farther than the second round. We were all hoping we were wrong, perhaps gaining some optimism when they stole the division, but most of us saw this coming, just not quite this early. There's still two games left, so I'm not quite ready to plan the funeral procession just yet... Though I have rented the tux just in case.

- Squatchy



Well written....perhaps you'd be interested in taking over for Paul! At least it's logical and you actually put some thought into what you wrote...as opposed to Paul who is no more than a babbling cheerleader for the Preds......and who undoubtedly has his posts approved by the team. If he actually put some thought in to his writing....it would be a first! Again, well done!
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Apr 22 @ 1:02 PM ET
It's hard to explain exactly what's wrong with this team, because a lot of their issues aren't quite tangible. They can't be explained away by stats fancy or otherwise. It's the eye test argument, a gut feeling you get when you watch this team play every game that something isn't quite right. Expect for brief spurts you don't see a lot of passion or determination. The work ethic this team was once famous for is all but gone except for in a handful of players. I don't think the issue is locker room chemistry. I think the problem might be the opposite. They've gotten too chummy. Most of the guys have their contracts, and quite frankly, have gotten fat, lazy, and caught up in their own hype. They get their brains beat in, and they have this 'awe well, we'll get them tomorrow' mentality. Well, better stop shrugging your shoulders, because you're running out of tomorrows. Nobody gets angry, nobody's holding guys accountable. This might be one of those rare instances where it might do the team some good if a couple of guys start taking swings at each other in the locker room. How hard is it to pass the puck to your own teammates? 13 giveaways in the first period of a game they had no excuse not to be ready for. Stupid lazy turnovers have been the bane of this team all season.

Other issues are far more obvious. The power play, which has been way too easy for other teams to defend. The complete lack of a second line. The Turris trade looking like a dud, and his subsequent decent in the dumpster while clinging to matches and lighter fluid. Fiala and Smith regressing after career years last year. Subban getting hurt and not looking the same afterward. Ellis getting his big contract, when he probably should've been traded, and having a garbage year, quite frankly looking downright lazy at times while doing it. The defense looking undersized, overpaid, and overwhelmed.

The coaching issue is an interesting one. I still think Lavy is a good coach but he does have a track record of burning out fast. It's pretty clear too that this team doesn't quite have the personnel to run his offensive system. Not enough speed or skill, and guys who can get back and play defense when his quote 'five man attack' gets disrupted. They kind of had that when they had Neal, before Smith, Fiala and the big four regressed, but not so much anymore. Maybe it's time to bring in a coach who can put in a system more favorable to the skill sets of the players he has, instead of trying to smash square pegs into round holes.

I've always had a love hate relationship with David Poile. For every Forsberg and Subban trade though, we get a Kyle Turris or Franson/Santorelli trade. Remember when Viktor Stalberg and Eric Nystrom were supposed to solve all our offensive woes? At least David sure tried to sell it to us like that. Wonder if Fenton used the same tactic to try and sell Minny fans on Fiala? Learned from the best if he did. Some of this mess is on his head too. He's smart enough to know that this team would suffer down the line if he went all in on his revered defense, but he signed Ellis anyway knowing Josi, a much more valuable D-man, was coming due. It's true that there was no way to predict the entire Turris line would turn into pumpkins all at once, but it happened, and now most of your forward core are either underachieving or are more defensive style forwards who don't necessarily fit into your coach's system.

I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Most of us were celebrating at the trade deadline when Polie didn't burn down the farm to add to a team most of us didn't really see making it farther than the second round. We were all hoping we were wrong, perhaps gaining some optimism when they stole the division, but most of us saw this coming, just not quite this early. There's still two games left, so I'm not quite ready to plan the funeral procession just yet... Though I have rented the tux just in case.

- Squatchy


That's the thing, we're not the defensive team we were, nor are we the offensive team we were promised with Lavy's (and others) signing. We're more of a some offense, some defense and a whole lotta nothing. Of course Paul and the rest of the media (especially in Nashville) will never question the team, Lavy or Poile.

Maybe when they raise the division banner in October they can put * - by accident at the bottom.
wrister
Joined: 12.28.2011

Apr 22 @ 1:23 PM ET
It's hard to explain exactly what's wrong with this team, because a lot of their issues aren't quite tangible. They can't be explained away by stats fancy or otherwise. It's the eye test argument, a gut feeling you get when you watch this team play every game that something isn't quite right. Expect for brief spurts you don't see a lot of passion or determination. The work ethic this team was once famous for is all but gone except for in a handful of players. I don't think the issue is locker room chemistry. I think the problem might be the opposite. They've gotten too chummy. Most of the guys have their contracts, and quite frankly, have gotten fat, lazy, and caught up in their own hype. They get their brains beat in, and they have this 'awe well, we'll get them tomorrow' mentality. Well, better stop shrugging your shoulders, because you're running out of tomorrows. Nobody gets angry, nobody's holding guys accountable. This might be one of those rare instances where it might do the team some good if a couple of guys start taking swings at each other in the locker room. How hard is it to pass the puck to your own teammates? 13 giveaways in the first period of a game they had no excuse not to be ready for. Stupid lazy turnovers have been the bane of this team all season.

Other issues are far more obvious. The power play, which has been way too easy for other teams to defend. The complete lack of a second line. The Turris trade looking like a dud, and his subsequent decent in the dumpster while clinging to matches and lighter fluid. Fiala and Smith regressing after career years last year. Subban getting hurt and not looking the same afterward. Ellis getting his big contract, when he probably should've been traded, and having a garbage year, quite frankly looking downright lazy at times while doing it. The defense looking undersized, overpaid, and overwhelmed.

The coaching issue is an interesting one. I still think Lavy is a good coach but he does have a track record of burning out fast. It's pretty clear too that this team doesn't quite have the personnel to run his offensive system. Not enough speed or skill, and guys who can get back and play defense when his quote 'five man attack' gets disrupted. They kind of had that when they had Neal, before Smith, Fiala and the big four regressed, but not so much anymore. Maybe it's time to bring in a coach who can put in a system more favorable to the skill sets of the players he has, instead of trying to smash square pegs into round holes.

I've always had a love hate relationship with David Poile. For every Forsberg and Subban trade though, we get a Kyle Turris or Franson/Santorelli trade. Remember when Viktor Stalberg and Eric Nystrom were supposed to solve all our offensive woes? At least David sure tried to sell it to us like that. Wonder if Fenton used the same tactic to try and sell Minny fans on Fiala? Learned from the best if he did. Some of this mess is on his head too. He's smart enough to know that this team would suffer down the line if he went all in on his revered defense, but he signed Ellis anyway knowing Josi, a much more valuable D-man, was coming due. It's true that there was no way to predict the entire Turris line would turn into pumpkins all at once, but it happened, and now most of your forward core are either underachieving or are more defensive style forwards who don't necessarily fit into your coach's system.

I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Most of us were celebrating at the trade deadline when Polie didn't burn down the farm to add to a team most of us didn't really see making it farther than the second round. We were all hoping we were wrong, perhaps gaining some optimism when they stole the division, but most of us saw this coming, just not quite this early. There's still two games left, so I'm not quite ready to plan the funeral procession just yet... Though I have rented the tux just in case.

- Squatchy



BINGO !!!!
PREDX1
Nashville Predators
Location: Rock City, TN
Joined: 10.05.2011

Apr 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
Why do you want to trade PK??????? Why all the PK hate... Turris is the one that sucks and has never produced. Trade Ekholm and ellis.


It's part a matter of preference and partly because of the type of player Subban is. As far as preference goes, I could ask you the same thing about Ekholm. He's had a horrible series, no denying that, but he was still our best defensive d-man all year by far. One bad playoff series doesn't mean he's suddenly garbage and we should get rid of him. If the Preds got rid of everyone that looked like crap in this series we'd have three guys left.

As far as Subban goes, he's the type of guy who's hard to put up with when he's not producing or on his game. Too much flopping, too much theatrics, too many bad turnovers and poor decisions. He has not had a good year, P.K. has even said so himself, so the hatters have a lot of ammunition right now. I'm personally from the camp that I can tolerate him when he's playing well, but right now eh... I'd rather see that 9m used to help balance out the team. I do love playoff P.K. though... He really ramps up his game this time of year.

- Squatchy

PREDX1
Nashville Predators
Location: Rock City, TN
Joined: 10.05.2011

Apr 22 @ 2:08 PM ET
Paul,
I'm curious you made the statement that the coaching staff doesnt know what to do.. If that is the case the coaching staff needs to go. A coach is like a ships captain, they always have an answer and even if they dont, they dont like their crews or players know. A coach/Captain always have an answer..

"They have worked their plan to perfection and for the first time in a long time, the Predators don’t seem to know what to do… and that goes from the coaching staff to every player on the team... well... almost every player."
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Apr 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
Why do you want to trade PK??????? Why all the PK hate... Turris is the one that sucks and has never produced. Trade Ekholm and ellis.
- PREDX1


Who's going to take on Turris' contract? In a perfect world we'd get rid of PK and Ellis, and get some legitimate scoring punch, not "potential" but proven scorers. We can develop Fabbro and someone else into the core D unit along with Ekholm and Josi.

I'd also think about getting bigger. Our guys are being tossed around more than my dinner salad. I never thought I'd miss the days of Trotz puck posession, dump and chase game...but here we are.

I know Joey has been great for us, but I really do miss Jones. Too bad we couldn't have kept him and dealt someone else for Joey.

Oh well...
PREDX1
Nashville Predators
Location: Rock City, TN
Joined: 10.05.2011

Apr 22 @ 3:49 PM ET
You still didnt answer whats wrong with PK.....


Who's going to take on Turris' contract? In a perfect world we'd get rid of PK and Ellis, and get some legitimate scoring punch, not "potential" but proven scorers. We can develop Fabbro and someone else into the core D unit along with Ekholm and Josi.

I'd also think about getting bigger. Our guys are being tossed around more than my dinner salad. I never thought I'd miss the days of Trotz puck posession, dump and chase game...but here we are.

I know Joey has been great for us, but I really do miss Jones. Too bad we couldn't have kept him and dealt someone else for Joey.

Oh well...

- FoxMulder

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