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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 21 @ 10:37 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: OHL Playoffs, Gordon, Phantoms and More
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Apr 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
luv Stew Malgunas
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Hope your birthday is as poopty as your skating Vinny.🎂
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Apr 21 @ 11:18 AM ET
Happy Holidays to all those who celebrate them today.

The Phantoms forward crop could be pretty deep this year. A little soft on the back end but they would have a great tamden between the pipes for sure.

Rat is putting up some points with those soft hands. Hopping he learns how to use that big body to be a little more physical. At 6’6” he is a giant out on the ice.
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:18 AM ET
No way I come back if I were Gordon. He did a good job with a bunch of guy's who quit during alot of games. He wasn't even given a real sniff for the job where he should of. Sure he'll be on someone's NHL staff at least
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:27 AM ET
Happy Holidays to all those who celebrate them today.

The Phantoms forward crop could be pretty deep this year. A little soft on the back end but they would have a great tamden between the pipes for sure.

Rat is putting up some points with those soft hands. Hopping he learns how to use that big body to be a little more physical. At 6’6” he is a giant out on the ice.

- peesinwind



I agree on the forwards for the phantoms but the softness of the D, For the Flyers and Phantoms, bothers me. I'd like to see them sign a veteran d man who can drop the gloves as well. Maybe guy's like McQuaid
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Apr 21 @ 11:36 AM ET
I agree on the forwards for the phantoms but the softness of the D, For the Flyers and Phantoms, bothers me. I'd like to see them sign a veteran d man who can drop the gloves as well. Maybe guy's like McQuaid
- twpguy


They are going to need some help on D down there for sure. The D youth at the NHL level is crazy. So the Flyers are not that thin as a program as the AHL would suggest but the phantoms need a little boost. If they don’t trade some one at the NHL there will be a quality player moving down.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Apr 21 @ 11:39 AM ET
No way I come back if I were Gordon. He did a good job with a bunch of guy's who quit during alot of games. He wasn't even given a real sniff for the job where he should of. Sure he'll be on someone's NHL staff at least
- twpguy


He wants to head coach though. Not sure he gets a head coaching spot aT the big clubs. It would be nice to keep him in the Flyers’ system. It could be fun coaching those in coming talent at the AHL.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Apr 21 @ 11:43 AM ET
He wants to head coach though. Not sure he gets a head coaching spot aT the big clubs. It would be nice to keep him in the Flyers’ system. It could be fun coaching those in coming talent at the AHL.
- peesinwind

Give him a raise to keep him. As you said don’t see any nhl team hiring him right now
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
i really think it's time for homer to be removed. Between the mishandling of hextall and haks firings and the Kate Smith thing I think the org is no longer well managed. I wonder if they will now punish Clarke for his comments?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 1:22 PM ET
i really think it's time for homer to be removed. Between the mishandling of hextall and haks firings and the Kate Smith thing I think the org is no longer well managed. I wonder if they will now punish Clarke for his comments?
- Hextall271


One more barrier broken down to a total social justifiably utopian society. I applaud these brave souls
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Apr 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
i really think it's time for homer to be removed. Between the mishandling of hextall and haks firings and the Kate Smith thing I think the org is no longer well managed. I wonder if they will now punish Clarke for his comments?
- Hextall271

What did he mishandle ?

He absolutely should be canned over this Kate Smith debacle; no doubt.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 21 @ 1:37 PM ET
I just have this feeling the veteran d man we add is spurgeon. There were talks of us discussing him at the deadline. Hes a fletcher guy and seemingly would be a good fit for vigneault system. Hayes is the center that seems writing on the wall-ish. He signed with vigneault in 2014 out of all teams. He multiple times referenced he enjoyed playing for him. All just seems to make too much sense. Kruger could be the bottom 6 guy. Good vet leader. Strong possession and PK-er.

I dont trade #11. If were building this team right itll be our last chance for a lottery pick for a while. You take the pick to add another high end prospect to the system. Because at some point like all good teams do someone will want more than we can give them and we will need an ELC to replace him. We have 10 picks. Move a 2nd or later in a trade if you have to. We got Farabee at #14 and he looks like he could make the nhl next year at some point and contribute. We can definitely get a worthwhile player at 11.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 21 @ 1:49 PM ET
What did he mishandle ?

He absolutely should be canned over this Kate Smith debacle; no doubt.

- daryl stanley

The fat lady has rightfully left the building.

Those songs are terrible and equality will allows trump some nostalgic sports bs. Calling for people to step down over this is pathetic.

You know how Philly sports fans always get a bad wrap? This is one issue that is so simple to actually be on the right side of.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 21 @ 1:50 PM ET
What did Clarke say? I dont know how to feel about the removal of Kate Smith. I understand both sides.

You cant encourage racist behavior of course but she's been dead for a long time now and the song they are using has nothing to do with those songs in question. The other thing is where do you draw the line? Do you boycott everyone and everything that had done something wrong in the past? Many of the American "greats" owned slaves. Do you remove them from the history books? Do you remove them from the paper bills? Do we boycott the friends and family of someone who has done something wrong in their lives? My great Grandmother worked for the Nazis in Ukraine, should I be punished for that? This is all something Society has to ask themselves.

Comcast and the Flyers are just protecting their brand. When it comes to this kind of stuff, its best to get ahead of it and avoid and controversy. I feel as if they are fighting racism with racism. There now appears to be a double standard. Look at Russel Peters the comedian. The guy is hilarious however do you really believe a white guy would get away with what he says during his routines?

It seems like racism is being fought with racism. Things are taken too seriously. Even the internet. Some random guy on the internet says something mean and suddenly someones in the corner crying about. Who cares? Some nobody on the internet said something mean....Get over it! Why does their opinion matter? Is your life so empty you have to impress strangers?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 21 @ 1:52 PM ET
I just have this feeling the veteran d man we add is spurgeon. There were talks of us discussing him at the deadline. Hes a fletcher guy and seemingly would be a good fit for vigneault system. Hayes is the center that seems writing on the wall-ish. He signed with vigneault in 2014 out of all teams. He multiple times referenced he enjoyed playing for him. All just seems to make too much sense. Kruger could be the bottom 6 guy. Good vet leader. Strong possession and PK-er.

I dont trade #11. If were building this team right itll be our last chance for a lottery pick for a while. You take the pick to add another high end prospect to the system. Because at some point like all good teams do someone will want more than we can give them and we will need an ELC to replace him. We have 10 picks. Move a 2nd or later in a trade if you have to. We got Farabee at #14 and he looks like he could make the nhl next year at some point and contribute. We can definitely get a worthwhile player at 11.

- Tfaehner


I have no interest in Spugeon. What does have that any of these kids dont other than exp? Im not looking to move any promising Young Dmen unless someone significant is involved.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 21 @ 2:00 PM ET
I have no interest in Spugeon. What does have that any of these kids dont other than exp? Im not looking to move any promising Young Dmen unless someone significant is involved.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Spurgeon is an excellent defender. Highly under rated while constantly taking on heavy defensive assignments and regularly facing other teams top lineups. Hes also right handed fairly young and on a good contract and he would likely be cheaper than a lot the big names. I also didnt propose giving up any our core young d for him. Hes a better defenseman and fit in my opinion than someone like trouba
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 21 @ 2:20 PM ET
What did he mishandle ?

He absolutely should be canned over this Kate Smith debacle; no doubt.

- daryl stanley


Didn't like the way he and Scott handled the hextall or Hak firings. The fact that hex didn't see it coming and the org stated they wanted to go in a win now direction although they hired him to conduct a slow build through the draft seemed contradictory to me.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 21 @ 2:22 PM ET
What did Clarke say? I dont know how to feel about the removal of Kate Smith. I understand both sides.

You cant encourage racist behavior of course but she's been dead for a long time now and the song they are using has nothing to do with those songs in question. The other thing is where do you draw the line? Do you boycott everyone and everything that had done something wrong in the past? Many of the American "greats" owned slaves. Do you remove them from the history books? Do you remove them from the paper bills? Do we boycott the friends and family of someone who has done something wrong in their lives? My great Grandmother worked for the Nazis in Ukraine, should I be punished for that? This is all something Society has to ask themselves.

Comcast and the Flyers are just protecting their brand. When it comes to this kind of stuff, its best to get ahead of it and avoid and controversy. I feel as if they are fighting racism with racism. There now appears to be a double standard. Look at Russel Peters the comedian. The guy is hilarious however do you really believe a white guy would get away with what he says during his routines?

It seems like racism is being fought with racism. Things are taken too seriously. Even the internet. Some random guy on the internet says something mean and suddenly someones in the corner crying about. Who cares? Some nobody on the internet said something mean....Get over it! Why does their opinion matter? Is your life so empty you have to impress strangers?

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Clarke basically defended Kate. Also criticized political correctness today. If the org wants to be consistent then homer should remove his statue?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 2:24 PM ET
The fat lady has rightfully left the building.

Those songs are terrible and equality will allows trump some nostalgic sports bs. Calling for people to step down over this is pathetic.

You know how Philly sports fans always get a bad wrap? This is one issue that is so simple to actually be on the right side of.

- hereticpride



It’s a relief. What she did was despicable. We can all agree that rappers who sing about murdering n#%;>/, sing about “crackas”, sing about degrading women should be held in the highest regard by playing their music and having them as special guests in our arena.

That’s one opinion everyone should be on the right side of
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 21 @ 2:27 PM ET
The fat lady has rightfully left the building.

Those songs are terrible and equality will allows trump some nostalgic sports bs. Calling for people to step down over this is pathetic.

You know how Philly sports fans always get a bad wrap? This is one issue that is so simple to actually be on the right side of.

- hereticpride


I respectfully disagree and thanks but I'm entitled to my opinion. Saying I'm not is whats pathetic really. Wish people could get over the fact that people might see things differently than they do.

The org is conveniently trying to erase a part of its history even though many including Clarke have stepped up to defend her. I find that it's pc gone wild and I think the org should have resisted calls to erase the orgs history. What's next? Remove allusions to the broad st bullies because many people are hurt by bullying? Will be interesting to see how they handle Clarke's voicing his displeasure.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 21 @ 2:30 PM ET
It’s a relief. What she did was despicable. We can all agree that rappers who sing about murdering n#%;>/, sing about “crackas”, sing about degrading women should be held in the highest regard by playing their music and having them as special guests in our arena.

That’s one opinion everyone should be on the right side of

- Just5


Excellent point you are making through sarcasm. Haha.

Really though, if we're going to do this, go all the way, ban all
Music at the games, ban the Winnipeg jets white out in the playoffs. etc

sirpaulj7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.01.2013

Apr 21 @ 3:34 PM ET
Can't get too upset at the statue being removed. Seemed kind of silly to have one of her in the first place, imo.

Frankly, I cringed a bit when Lauren Hart used to do the duets with her. lol
sirpaulj7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.01.2013

Apr 21 @ 3:36 PM ET
The org is conveniently trying to erase a part of its history.
- Hextall271


How on earth is history being erased?

It's just a statue being removed. The history remains and is immutable.
sirpaulj7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.01.2013

Apr 21 @ 3:37 PM ET
The fat lady has rightfully left the building.

Those songs are terrible and equality will allows trump some nostalgic sports bs. Calling for people to step down over this is pathetic.

You know how Philly sports fans always get a bad wrap? This is one issue that is so simple to actually be on the right side of.

- hereticpride

agreed.
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