walleyeb1
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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The point is we traded away a top 6 player and drafted one the same year, in the 2nd round. - BetweenTheDots
Yeah I get what you are saying but this was definitely the better trade of the two:
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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First - congrats. Now take out the Islanders.
I loved TT's game from the beginning because he showed flashes of innate ability that, if it came to fruition, he would be the player he has now become. He's grown since he left the Hawks, including physically, and I'm happy for him.
Dylan Sikura reminds me of TT. Different situation to be sure because Sikura is 23/24 now whereas TT was 19 /20 so huge age gap. But, Sikura makes those same kind of subtle little plays that I watched TT make a few years ago. I'm not suggesting Sikura becomes a 60+ point scorer but he has that same innate ability that if he gets the opportunity to develop and it comes to fruition, he could become a kind of poor mans TT. - EbonyRaptor
Good post. I could see a similar journey for Sikura. As you said, Teravainen was younger but Sikura seems to know much sooner what he needs to work on to succeed in the NHL. I'm guessing Sikura's potential is at least a 0.50 PPG as a middle 6 forward who is reliable and competitive. |
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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Like man to man defenses in basketball there can be switches and hand offs when there are pick plays. Also like basketball there are ways to attack a zone and ways to attack a man to man. But for each attack there is a counter. The key is having all 5 players know exactly what there responsibility is in any situation. - -Doh-
The last part really is the key. The strategies and skill sets are important but don't matter if every player on the ice isn't responsible and situationally aware of what to do at every moment. Each player needs to be activated on each play whether they are directly involved or neutralizing other options for the opponent. |
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walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Petersburg, IL Joined: 09.25.2014
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George McPhee said the NHL did reach out to him, and appologized for the officiating in Game 7. He also said he was not aware that the two refs did not advance, when informed by the reporter asking the question.
“They made a mistake and I’m sure they feel bad about it.” |
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There was nothing slick about Bowman picking TT, he was projected to go higher actually. And you can't celebrate a good pick and ignore how he then managed that pick. Sorta like Leddy, Stan made a great move to get Leddy, but a horrific move when unloading him. So it's a wash.
TT is a terrific player and you could see his post season potential in 2015. Canes got a boondoggle there. - kwolf68
I new that little comment (Slick)would bring out the Stan haters . |
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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Babcock contacted me this morning and invited me to training camp because he wants guys who can play the 'heavy' game he likes. Since I'm heavy I accepted subject to getting a big, fat contract like Worthless Willie Nylander's. - RickJ
What number did you ask for? I'll get that number with RickJ on the back. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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I'm sorry to hear that. - paulr
Not half as sorry as all the farm animals in the area. |
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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Not half as sorry as all the farm animals in the area. - Elbows15
All the Geese, Pigs, Cows and rabbits have bingo heads. |
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RedRevenge
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Location: IL Joined: 04.18.2017
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Theo Fox
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Joined: 06.18.2016
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If the Hawks draft an NHL ready player, sign a 3C and a couple of veteran power forwards there may not be enough spaces for 3 forwards (Sikura, Highmore and Hayden). I am thinking 1 or at the most 2 of the 3 are on the opening day roster.
Kane, Toews, Saad, ADB, Strome, Kahun, Kampf, Caggiula, AA (probably gone)? #3 pick? #3c FA/trade? veteran bottom 6 FA? - -Doh-
You're right. Of Sikura, Highmore, and Hayden -- and assuming a few new faces join the team whether through the draft, free agency, or trade -- I prefer to cut bait with Hayden while projecting Sikura is a starter in the top 9 while Highmore is either the 13th forward or starting on the top line in Rockford.
Hayden's potential role would be as 4th line winger or 13th forward but he becomes expendable if the Hawks do pursue a player like Tanev, Sissons, or even Motte (or whoever else anyone likes as options). I really like how Motte has improved the past season or so. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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He would of still counted $3 mil against the cap.
Btw didn't we draft Debrincat in the 2nd round of 2016? I believe Carolina gave us their 2nd round pick, so the Hawks did fine on the trade - BetweenTheDots
Dinky was taken with the Habs pick. IIRC, the Canes pick was part of another trade. |
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Spec41971
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Location: Rolling meadows, IL Joined: 03.04.2017
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TT was creating a bunch of chances in OT. - Elbows15
TT looked damn good. Would look really good in an Indianhead sweater right now. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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You got Artur Kayumov and Keith Petruzelli with the picks from the Canes. - BINGO!
Nope. The Wings took Petruzelli with that pick. |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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All the Geese, Pigs, Cows and rabbits have bingo heads. - paulr
If only. |
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Spec41971
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Location: Rolling meadows, IL Joined: 03.04.2017
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Nah. I'm in Saskatchewan. - BINGO!
Is that a suburb of Raleigh?
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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TT looked damn good. Would look really good in an Indianhead sweater right now. - Spec41971
So would a couple of other guys who had to be moved for cap reasons. He was always good defensively but his offense grew a bit more than I expected. Maybe being out from the constant comparisons to Kane, which were always unfair to him, has allowed him to find his own way to become a vg NHL player |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Is that a suburb of Raleigh? - Spec41971
Its a suburb of nowhere. |
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There seems to be a lot of Hawks fans who think the improvement needed at forward are 2 gritty-type bottom-6 wingers and possibly an upgrade at 3C. The sentiment seems to be that those players need to be acquired via trade or free agency. I'm wondering who gets displaced in the lineup?
I count 9 forwards that are almost certainly locked in - Toews, Kane, Cat, Strome, Saad, Caggiula, Kahun, Kampf and Anisimov (or 3C replacement). Then there are the guys already in the system that either spent time with the Hawks last season or are signed and will probably get a shot next season - Perlini, Sikura, Hayden, Highmore, Hagel, Kubalik, along with some guys recently signed who are starting their pro careers - Kurashev, Entwistle. Also possibly Euro guys Stan may sign.
That's a lot of guys for 3 or 4 spots. While I agree picking up a couple bottom-6 wingers like Tanev would be nice - how does that work with the glut of forwards already in the system who are in position to earn one of those spots? |
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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If only. - BINGO!
On second thought, the animals are safe, it's Saskatchewan afterall, the land is so flat they'll see you coming a day before you're due to arrive. |
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Spec41971
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Location: Rolling meadows, IL Joined: 03.04.2017
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It was really disappointing watching the 1st round and not being able to watch the Hawks. That said, however, it was not unexpected.
Even without my team to pull for, the 1st round was exciting. Great games on every night....doesn’t get much better than that.
Reinforced my belief that the Nhl playoffs are the best in sports!!
Can now claim that I went 8-0 in the first round....not that I “picked” 8 winners, simply that the team I most wanted to lose every series lost. If I was trying to pick winners, I probably would have gone 2-6.
With the exception of Boston, there’s no personal favorite for me at this point. Almost wouldn’t even mind seeing the Blows finally win a Cup. |
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LAHawk
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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TT stats fro 4 1/2 seasons
Career 360 76 150 226
Games goals assist points.
He had his best season this year playing on the first line with 76 points, most points in his career. Lets see if he continues to trend up before we say Stan traded a hall of famer for a draft pick.
Even if TT was somehow kept, he would not get the minutes he gets in Carolina, so I think his numbers would not be as good if he was still a Hawk. |
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StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: IL Joined: 07.03.2011
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The top 4 players in last years draft averaged more than 70 games played in the NHL this year. - -Doh-
That doesn't mean they were READY For NHL play - or that they wouldn't have benefited from some time on the farm.
Let's see what happens to their careers going forward. |
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LAHawk
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That doesn't mean they were READY For NHL play - or that they wouldn't have benefited from some time on the farm.
Let's see what happens to their careers going forward. - StLBravesFan
I agree. I do see the possibility of giving Beaudin the Joki treatment, give him some games at the beginning to get a taste, then send him to the Rock with what he has to work on, let him play in the WJC, etc. and gain experience.
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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TT stats fro 4 1/2 seasons
Career 360 76 150 226
Games goals assist points.
He had his best season this year playing on the first line with 76 points, most points in his career. Lets see if he continues to trend up before we say Stan traded a hall of famer for a draft pick.
Even if TT was somehow kept, he would not get the minutes he gets in Carolina, so I think his numbers would not be as good if he was still a Hawk. - LAHawk
I am not sure about the minutes thing. He was already getting PP time when he was here. He also played some on the PK He definitely would be top 6 here. Will he get 70+ again? Maybe not but I think he will be a solid 55-65 player that can play special teams and is on a good contract.
They had no choice, tho. They needed to move all of Bickell's contract to be cap compliant that season. TT was the cost. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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That doesn't mean they were READY For NHL play - or that they wouldn't have benefited from some time on the farm.
Let's see what happens to their careers going forward. - StLBravesFan
Doesn't mean they weren't either. |
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