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PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Apr 24 @ 1:19 PM ET
They should look to get Debrome (Debrincat and Strome version of Bryzzo) signed to 3 yr deals.

Somewhere in the 3yr 14.25-17.25mil range. (Cap hit between 4.75-5.75 per year)

At the end of that, both will be 25-26 AND Toews, Kane, Keith contracts all come off the books in time for their mega deals (if deserved)
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 24 @ 1:23 PM ET
They should look to get Debrome (Debrincat and Strome version of Bryzzo) signed to 3 yr deals.

Somewhere in the 3yr 14.25-17.25mil range. (Cap hit between 4.75-5.75 per year)

At the end of that, both will be 25-26 AND Toews, Kane, Keith contracts all come off the books in time for their mega deals (if deserved)

- PatShart



They both should sign 1-2 year show-me deals for $1 - $1.5 million. Otherwise ship them out for cap space ASAP.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 24 @ 1:23 PM ET
Even Tampa, who everyone said Yzerman was a genius is in cap hell, AND NO CUPS.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 24 @ 1:23 PM ET
Boston’s 4th line was very good last night.
- Chief4Feathers

As Tyler's blog discussed, your team needs to have the best 3rd and 4th line in each series to win. A corollary would be the team with the best 3rd and 4th line of all teams in the tourney is a favorite to win the Cup.

So for the Blackhawks to be a contender again, the bottom 6 needs to be strengthened. Words like relentless, gritty, physical, bum slaying, and agitating come to mind.

Current players like Caggiula and Kampf help but are only 2 of 6 players needed. Add a player like Tanev or Sissons and that could be a killer 4th line.

As for the 3rd line, I'm thinking along the lines of 2015 when the Hawks fielded Vermette centering Sharp and Teravainen in the playoffs. Just an example using current players:

Vermette = Anisimov
Sharp = Saad
Teravainen = Sikura

A pivotal question is whether Anisimov is the right choice or could he be upgraded.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:24 PM ET
They both should sign 1-2 year show-me deals for $1 - $1.5 million. Otherwise ship them out for cap space ASAP.
- DarthKane


That’s a bold strategy Cotton...
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 24 @ 1:24 PM ET
They should look to get Debrome (Debrincat and Strome version of Bryzzo) signed to 3 yr deals.

Somewhere in the 3yr 14.25-17.25mil range. (Cap hit between 4.75-5.75 per year)

At the end of that, both will be 25-26 AND Toews, Kane, Keith contracts all come off the books in time for their mega deals (if deserved)

- PatShart


I don't think the players will do that, unless the deal takes them to UFA status. I'm not disagreeing with the thought process, though.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:27 PM ET
I don't think the players will do that, unless the deal takes them to UFA status. I'm not disagreeing with the thought process, though.
- mohel


What was the term for Toews/Kane’s bridge deal - the $ was around $6M IIRC?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 24 @ 1:28 PM ET
As Tyler's blog discussed, your team needs to have the best 3rd and 4th line in each series to win. A corollary would be the team with the best 3rd and 4th line of all teams in the tourney is a favorite to win the Cup.

So for the Blackhawks to be a contender again, the bottom 6 needs to be strengthened. Words like relentless, gritty, physical, bum slaying, and agitating come to mind.

Current players like Caggiula and Kampf help but are only 2 of 6 players needed. Add a player like Tanev or Sissons and that could be a killer 4th line.

As for the 3rd line, I'm thinking along the lines of 2015 when the Hawks fielded Vermette centering Sharp and Teravainen in the playoffs. Just an example using current players:

Vermette = Anisimov
Sharp = Saad
Teravainen = Sikura

A pivotal question is whether Anisimov is the right choice or could he be upgraded.

- AEL_Fox


I think that is fine. I have no problems with AA as a #3 center. The Preds supposedly are strong down the middle with Johansson, Turris, and Bonino, with AA as a #3, I like our top 3 much better.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Apr 24 @ 1:28 PM ET
Crawford should be extra pissed after last nights joke! A player intentionally runs into a vulnerable goalie (and possibly shortens his career), gets next to nothing. Pavelsky involved in a hockey play, injures himself selling the play, and the player who did nothing wrong gets 5 and a game. Where did the blood come from? Pavelsky was not hit in the face, plus he ad a full face shield on. Maybe the league needs to see if the full cage was the thing that knocked Pavelsky out.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 24 @ 1:29 PM ET
What was the term for Toews/Kane’s bridge deal - the $ was around $6M IIRC?
- Chief4Feathers


About that. Of course, the cap was much lower then, and Kane and Toews were better players.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:30 PM ET
As Tyler's blog discussed, your team needs to have the best 3rd and 4th line in each series to win. A corollary would be the team with the best 3rd and 4th line of all teams in the tourney is a favorite to win the Cup.

So for the Blackhawks to be a contender again, the bottom 6 needs to be strengthened. Words like relentless, gritty, physical, bum slaying, and agitating come to mind.

Current players like Caggiula and Kampf help but are only 2 of 6 players needed. Add a player like Tanev or Sissons and that could be a killer 4th line.

As for the 3rd line, I'm thinking along the lines of 2015 when the Hawks fielded Vermette centering Sharp and Teravainen in the playoffs. Just an example using current players:

Vermette = Anisimov
Sharp = Saad
Teravainen = Sikura

A pivotal question is whether Anisimov is the right choice or could he be upgraded.

- AEL_Fox


There have been suggestions about trading Saad for defensive help - but if the playoffs illustrate anything in terms of what wins games - Saad’s style of play is what the Hawks need more of - not less.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 24 @ 1:31 PM ET
There have been suggestions about trading Saad for defensive help - but if the playoffs illustrate anything in terms of what wins games - Saad’s style of play is what the Hawks need more of - not less.
- Chief4Feathers


Yes, indeed.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 24 @ 1:31 PM ET
I think Toronto screwed themselves by signing Tavares.

Unless they move a big time player or two up front, they won't have enough cap space to fix that defense, which they will never win a Cup with the way it is manned right now.

Even Reilly their best defenseman is not that great defensively. They would need two studs on the back end and I just don't see how that is going to happen for them.

- hereismike1

Nylander kadri and others will be traded for defense help and cap space
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Apr 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
Yeah, Toews and Kane did I think 5yrs at 6mil per...but they had a Cup on their resume....ROY Conn Smythe, really good playoff numbers/stats.

Stome has had 3/4 of a good season and Debrincat has put up points/goals...but both have 0 playoff appearances/points (not their fault, but wont help the cause either if they get max deals)
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 24 @ 1:34 PM ET
Nylander kadri and others will be traded for defense help and cap space
- Scott1977


Probably although both of their values have declined. Also Dubas could be in the Bowman predicament that teams know he has to dump salary and will be low balling the return.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Apr 24 @ 1:35 PM ET
I don't think the players will do that, unless the deal takes them to UFA status. I'm not disagreeing with the thought process, though.
- mohel


Players...mayyyyybe

Agents and the NHLPA...probably wont like/take that at all
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:35 PM ET
Crawford should be extra pissed after last nights joke! A player intentionally runs into a vulnerable goalie (and possibly shortens his career), gets next to nothing. Pavelsky involved in a hockey play, injures himself selling the play, and the player who did nothing wrong gets 5 and a game. Where did the blood come from? Pavelsky was not hit in the face, plus he ad a full face shield on. Maybe the league needs to see if the full cage was the thing that knocked Pavelsky out.
- powerenforcer


I don’t think Pavelsky was selling anything - it was an awkward fall and he landed head first. He was a mess afterward.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
Yeah, Toews and Kane did I think 5yrs at 6mil per...but they had a Cup on their resume....ROY Conn Smythe, really good playoff numbers/stats.

Stome has had 3/4 of a good season and Debrincat has put up points/goals...but both have 0 playoff appearances/points (not their fault, but wont help the cause either if they get max deals)

- PatShart


Yes, and I was thinking that serves to help Stan in getting Strom-a-Cat to sign some sort of bridge deals for reasonable $/term. E.g.: “This is what we did for the wonder twins - and you two are not the wonder twins.”
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
yep.

They have $36 million tied up in Matthews, Tavares, Nylander and Marleau

- BINGO!


Offer Sheet Marner, he's the best of the group.

No one would bail out Stan when he was up against it, can't see anyone bailing out the leafs.
hereismike1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.06.2018

Apr 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
Even Tampa, who everyone said Yzerman was a genius is in cap hell, AND NO CUPS.
- LAHawk



They would be ok if he had not signed Stamkos, which was the main mistake. That guy is not the guy that gets you over the top in the playoffs, how many times do they have to see the same show to know how it ends?

If they let him walk, they would have enough financial resources to address their issues. The deal he got Kucherov to sign before the current one was amazing. Palat and Johnson deals were below market value, and got a good deal for Hedman.

Yzerman did a good job of keeping talented players at a good price there is no question about that. Those guys obviously have not had post season success leading to a Cup at this point.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
Man I love playoff hockey....

I don't get the continued love for Babcock. Has yet to win a series in Toronto, has a very young talented team, has some holes on D, but with that group he should have won a series by now. How is he not being questioned or rumored to be replaced? Guy blows a LOT of leads in series and have to question his ability to make in game matchup decisions. Yes, he won in Detroit with a LOADED team he had no part of making, and yes he won with team CANADA with another loaded team...…

Pavelski got driven a bit into the ice and probably should have been a 4 minute penalty but wonder if he wasn't wearing a pseudo cage if he bleeds at all? Oh well....Vegas blew a 3-1 lead. Shark tank was going bananas and what a response when you see your captain hurt. Amazing game.....hard to top that one.

Pulling for the Caps tonight. Love Ovechkin and Carolina is about to experience what Tampa did last year in Games 6 and 7.....an angry Caps team. I don't see a young team handling that at all on the road.

As far as deals go for Hawks? What are they trading to get pry away some top RFA talent? This team needs defensive help badly if they want to be 1 of 16 in the dance next April

- SteveRain


You obviously haven't been listening to Canadian sports talk, or reading Leafs message boards
hereismike1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.06.2018

Apr 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
What was the term for Toews/Kane’s bridge deal - the $ was around $6M IIRC?
- Chief4Feathers


5 year deals at $6.3 million per
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Apr 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
No...not at all. Just like he was trying to go towards Stastny to run interference on him while Eakin engaged with pushing him then him not being able to even brace himself. Just weird to go down that way
- PatShart


Just a bizarre chain of events, that face off push, can’t even really call it a cross check IMHO, happens probably a dozen times a game. Yeah Pavelski just ends up getting in a weird position and goes down hard.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Apr 24 @ 1:45 PM ET
Even Tampa, who everyone said Yzerman was a genius is in cap hell, AND NO CUPS.
- LAHawk



LOVE how Yzerman bailed to go back to Detroit. Class....
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Apr 24 @ 1:45 PM ET
You obviously haven't been listening to Canadian sports talk, or reading Leafs message boards
- vabeachbear


Is he going to survive or get the boot?
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