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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

May 8 @ 10:09 AM ET
Todd Cordell: On the signing of Carl-Johan Lerby
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

May 8 @ 10:23 AM ET
After watching last night's game...please trade for Ben Bishop....
Dallas had no right taking that game to OT.
hags11
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 8 @ 12:09 PM ET
Tre just NEVER rests! I truly believe he is the best GM in the league. His success on the free agent front is poor, but other than that he excels in all other areas of being a GM - including work ethic. I am so glad we have him.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 8 @ 12:21 PM ET
After watching last night's game...please trade for Ben Bishop....
Dallas had no right taking that game to OT.

- geta02it


Man, I picked it up in OT for a couple of minutes and STL had something like 51 shots to Dallas' 21 - Bishop was a hero for those guys, was really rooting for a Dallas win just because of his play. Also wondering if we will hear any more on the injury from game 6 now that they are done...
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 8 @ 12:35 PM ET
Tre just NEVER rests! I truly believe he is the best GM in the league. His success on the free agent front is poor, but other than that he excels in all other areas of being a GM - including work ethic. I am so glad we have him.
- hags11


If he was the best GM in the league we wouldn’t be complaining about the Neal contract and talking about how the flames are going to beat the blues lol

I like him as a GM but let’s get real here
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

May 8 @ 12:40 PM ET
Tre just NEVER rests! I truly believe he is the best GM in the league. His success on the free agent front is poor, but other than that he excels in all other areas of being a GM - including work ethic. I am so glad we have him.
- hags11


How do you call him the best GM in the league when his free agency signings have been as bad as they've been? Sure, his work ethic is great, but it's nothing special when it comes to NHL GMs. You don't get that job unless you're devoting 99% of your life to your team. The Flames also still don't have a number one goalie and he's been the GM for five years.

These types of signing happen all the time, you just don't hear about them.
Yeah...Baby
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary , AB
Joined: 01.29.2015

May 8 @ 12:55 PM ET
Tre just NEVER rests! I truly believe he is the best GM in the league. His success on the free agent front is poor, but other than that he excels in all other areas of being a GM - including work ethic. I am so glad we have him.
- hags11


I'm with you! Not sure that there is a single GM in the league batting at 100! Sure there is mistakes but hes definitely done a hell of a job for this team! Best Season in recent memory.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 8 @ 1:11 PM ET
How do you call him the best GM in the league when his free agency signings have been as bad as they've been? Sure, his work ethic is great, but it's nothing special when it comes to NHL GMs. You don't get that job unless you're devoting 99% of your life to your team. The Flames also still don't have a number one goalie and he's been the GM for five years.

These types of signing happen all the time, you just don't hear about them.

- Hunkulese


there have been multiple euro signing this week by different teams lol

It’s not just Tre adding players
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 8 @ 1:15 PM ET
Tre just NEVER rests! I truly believe he is the best GM in the league. His success on the free agent front is poor, but other than that he excels in all other areas of being a GM - including work ethic. I am so glad we have him.
- hags11


What?
He's done a solid job but...

He's been the GM for 5 seasons.
He's had 3 different Head Coaches.
Of the 30 players he's drafted, only 4 have played more than 50 NHL games, and only one of them was drafted outside the 1st round (Mangiapane).
The Flames record under him is 212-163-35 in the regular season, 6-14 in the playoffs.

They're good, and they're better than they were when he started, but I'd be hard pressed to call him the best in the league.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
I'm with you! Not sure that there is a single GM in the league batting at 100! Sure there is mistakes but hes definitely done a hell of a job for this team! Best Season in recent memory.
- Yeah...Baby


ok brad
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

May 8 @ 1:23 PM ET
At the time a lot of people were all for the signing. Believe it or not he doesn’t have a crystal ball that said this perennial big bodied 20 goal scorer with a ton of playoff experience was going to completely fall off a cliff this year.

He has negotiated some really good contracts. Not every signing is going to be a home run. But for the most part I think BT is one of the better GM’s.
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

May 8 @ 1:25 PM ET
ok brad
- BINGO!


Lol 😂
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 8 @ 2:39 PM ET
What?
He's done a solid job but...

He's been the GM for 5 seasons.
He's had 3 different Head Coaches.
Of the 30 players he's drafted, only 4 have played more than 50 NHL games, and only one of them was drafted outside the 1st round (Mangiapane).
The Flames record under him is 212-163-35 in the regular season, 6-14 in the playoffs.

They're good, and they're better than they were when he started, but I'd be hard pressed to call him the best in the league.

- BINGO!


Well, sure - according to 2014-2018 history, 4 is basically average (if we use the 50 game mark as a measure). Valimaki also would have surpassed that if not for injury, Dube will, Kylington would have if not for the depth in the organization so take all of that with a grain of salt.

The Flames also, in aggregate, have the 7th worst average draft position over the last 5 drafts at 115.4 because they've used draft capital to bring in guys like Hamonic and Hamilton (Lindholm/Hanifin), have had the 4th fewest picks from 2014 to present, and the 2nd fewest 1st round selections.

BTW - bananas stat, did anyone here realize the Pens have NOT drafted in the 1st round since 2012?!? Am I under a rock, is this well known?!?


All that being considered, including the assets he turned the 2015 1st and pair of 2nds into (Lindholm and Hanifin), and that the 2018 1st is effectively Hamonic at present (could have been Dobson given how the draft played out), can't hold too much against him in terms of drafting
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 8 @ 2:46 PM ET
Well, sure - according to 2014-2018 history, 4 is basically average (if we use the 50 game mark as a measure). Valimaki also would have surpassed that if not for injury, Dube will, Kylington would have if not for the depth in the organization so take all of that with a grain of salt.

The Flames also, in aggregate, have the 7th worst average draft position over the last 5 drafts at 115.4 because they've used draft capital to bring in guys like Hamonic and Hamilton (Lindholm/Hanifin), have had the 4th fewest picks from 2014 to present, and the 2nd fewest 1st round selections.

BTW - bananas stat, did anyone here realize the Pens have NOT drafted in the 1st round since 2012?!? Am I under a rock, is this well known?!?


All that being considered, including the assets he turned the 2015 1st and pair of 2nds into (Lindholm and Hanifin), and that the 2018 1st is effectively Hamonic at present (could have been Dobson given how the draft played out), can't hold too much against him in terms of drafting

- rmull905


Not meaning to say he's done a bad job of it, just that he hasn't found extras in later rounds that you'd maybe like from "the best GM in the business" I'd take him as GM over the majority of options, for sure.

Also, Pens drafted Kapanen in 2014 in the 1st round. They just flipped him + for Kessel.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 8 @ 2:46 PM ET
What?
He's done a solid job but...

He's been the GM for 5 seasons.
He's had 3 different Head Coaches.
Of the 30 players he's drafted, only 4 have played more than 50 NHL games, and only one of them was drafted outside the 1st round (Mangiapane).
The Flames record under him is 212-163-35 in the regular season, 6-14 in the playoffs.

They're good, and they're better than they were when he started, but I'd be hard pressed to call him the best in the league.

- BINGO!


Hartley was inherited, his first hire was Gully... most GM's get a do over, and a rookie GM making a mistake on his fire coaching hire is forgivable methinks.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 8 @ 2:52 PM ET
Not meaning to say he's done a bad job of it, just that he hasn't found extras in later rounds that you'd maybe like from "the best GM in the business" I'd take him as GM over the majority of options, for sure.

Also, Pens drafted Kapanen in 2014 in the 1st round. They just flipped him + for Kessel.

- BINGO!


Damn, don't know how I missed that one! Right there in front of my face

And I think there are some late rounders yet to come for the Flames - Pettersen for one is looking like an early beauty, outside chance on Ruzicka if he plays more to his size, Fox was a 3rd rounder and could be a stud (though.. (frank) him), real outside shot of Zavgorodniy, but he's a little guy that has some skill.

Pospisil could be another Hathaway in the making, Roman has some upside, but 2018 late rounders are a couple of years away at least from having their value assessed...
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

May 8 @ 5:23 PM ET
Hartley was inherited, his first hire was Gully... most GM's get a do over, and a rookie GM making a mistake on his fire coaching hire is forgivable methinks.
- rmull905


No one is saying that Treliving has a done a bad job, but he's had far too many missteps to be in the conversation about best GM in the league.

Brouwer, Neal, and Jagr signings plus the fact that they're still searching for a goalie pretty much eliminate him from any world's best GM conversation.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 8 @ 6:14 PM ET
No one is saying that Treliving has a done a bad job, but he's had far too many missteps to be in the conversation about best GM in the league.

Brouwer, Neal, and Jagr signings plus the fact that they're still searching for a goalie pretty much eliminate him from any world's best GM conversation.

- Hunkulese

Curious, who in your humble opinion would you consider the best GM in the NHL right now? Inquiring minds want to know.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 8 @ 6:29 PM ET
Curious, who in your humble opinion would you consider the best GM in the NHL right now? Inquiring minds want to know.
- Kevin R


Steve Yzerman.
Doug Wilson
Kevin Cheveldayoff

Brad Treliving would probably come in somewhere around 4-6 for me right now.

Jason Botterill and Jeff Gorton have shown good promise, but far too early to make any sort of judgement on them.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 8 @ 6:46 PM ET
Steve Yzerman.
Doug Wilson
Kevin Cheveldayoff

Brad Treliving would probably come in somewhere around 4-6 for me right now.

Jason Botterill and Jeff Gorton have shown good promise, but far too early to make any sort of judgement on them.

- BINGO!

Funny, they are all good GM's but they all have bad contracts & bad trades they would love to jettison. I guess my problem is the critic of a GM for a few specific signings or a trade that doesnt work out. Name me one GM that doesnt have a redo they would like to have & the longer they have been GM the more redo's you can look back & wish they had. Then there are guys that just scare the bejesus out of you as a fan. Feaster scared the (frank)ing crap out of me whenever he traded. Chiapet was another scary GM, same with Milbury. Even Snow made some real head shakers. Ask Montreal or Ottawa fans how much confidence they have in their GM's making trades.

I think Treliving has made good moves & some bad ones. What I really like about him is how aggressive he is & is prepared to make big moves no one expects. My complaint with Chevy, the guy doesnt do anything until he's really put in a corner & has to make a move. I havent been overly impressed with Dubas so far but he still has time to make his mark.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

May 8 @ 6:56 PM ET
Curious, who in your humble opinion would you consider the best GM in the NHL right now? Inquiring minds want to know.
- Kevin R


Yzerman built the best team in the league and a team that has zero holes. Then again, he also benefited greatly from Florida's tax laws.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

May 8 @ 7:43 PM ET
Steve Yzerman.
Doug Wilson
Kevin Cheveldayoff

Brad Treliving would probably come in somewhere around 4-6 for me right now.

Jason Botterill and Jeff Gorton have shown good promise, but far too early to make any sort of judgement on them.

- BINGO!


What about the team Ron Francis built Bingo?
He would be a the top of most lists today if Dundon didn't micromanage him the FRANK out of town.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 8 @ 9:47 PM ET
Yzerman built the best team in the league and a team that has zero holes. Then again, he also benefited greatly from Florida's tax laws.
- Hunkulese

I think Yzerman is a crabby sob but do agree he has to be ranked right up there. But he's had his share of contracts he had to buyout or carrying Neal/Brouwer style.
Callahan has Neal type of stats as a Flame for the last few years & he's getting 5.8 mill & will continue to do so for the next few years. Carle had to be bought out & he's still on the Lightning salary cap & he retired in 2016. Just saying, even the best GM's have contracts they wish they didnt give as much salary or term. I think a crystal ball is required if you want to be a rockstar GM in this league.
hags11
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 8 @ 10:03 PM ET
Funny, they are all good GM's but they all have bad contracts & bad trades they would love to jettison. I guess my problem is the critic of a GM for a few specific signings or a trade that doesnt work out. Name me one GM that doesnt have a redo they would like to have & the longer they have been GM the more redo's you can look back & wish they had. Then there are guys that just scare the bejesus out of you as a fan. Feaster scared the (frank)ing crap out of me whenever he traded. Chiapet was another scary GM, same with Milbury. Even Snow made some real head shakers. Ask Montreal or Ottawa fans how much confidence they have in their GM's making trades.

I think Treliving has made good moves & some bad ones. What I really like about him is how aggressive he is & is prepared to make big moves no one expects. My complaint with Chevy, the guy doesnt do anything until he's really put in a corner & has to make a move. I havent been overly impressed with Dubas so far but he still has time to make his mark.

- Kevin R


I agree with this 110%
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

May 9 @ 11:05 AM ET
Funny, they are all good GM's but they all have bad contracts & bad trades they would love to jettison. I guess my problem is the critic of a GM for a few specific signings or a trade that doesnt work out. Name me one GM that doesnt have a redo they would like to have & the longer they have been GM the more redo's you can look back & wish they had. Then there are guys that just scare the bejesus out of you as a fan. Feaster scared the (frank)ing crap out of me whenever he traded. Chiapet was another scary GM, same with Milbury. Even Snow made some real head shakers. Ask Montreal or Ottawa fans how much confidence they have in their GM's making trades.

I think Treliving has made good moves & some bad ones. What I really like about him is how aggressive he is & is prepared to make big moves no one expects. My complaint with Chevy, the guy doesnt do anything until he's really put in a corner & has to make a move. I havent been overly impressed with Dubas so far but he still has time to make his mark.

- Kevin R

I think the organization has come along way on the player personnel front. (when we actually have a pick) the team has made some good moves at the draft and I think we have a fair number of prospects with the potential to make the show.

Tre's success is in (most) trades and the contract negotiations. Now Free Agent signings is a different story but who actually thought Neal would regress to Brower territory? I'll give him a D on the Jagr signing... still thought he should have given Iggy a shot.. couldn't have been worse could it?

To me, with this off-season is key and it'll be a make or break year for Treliving. The playoffs taught us that this team isn't quite ready for the big time and with certain contracts that need to be managed, re-tooling this team will be challenging.
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