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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 9 @ 7:31 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Assistant Coach Duties, Worlds, Provorov OHL Finals, & More
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 9 @ 7:47 AM ET
Umm, both assistants are coaching the PK? Think ya got a typo Bill, lol.

I like the idea of the former Dman coaching the forwards and the former winger coaching the D. Should provide an interesting perspective on both. Plus with AVs rep as a coach who likes consensus, all will probably be involved in every facet of the team.

The best news though is Lappy no longer runs the PK. Hallelujah!
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 9 @ 8:05 AM ET
Umm, both assistants are coaching the PK? Think ya got a typo Bill, lol.

I like the idea of the former Dman coaching the forwards and the former winger coaching the D. Should provide an interesting perspective on both. Plus with AVs rep as a coach who likes consensus, all will probably be involved in every facet of the team.

The best news though is Lappy no longer runs the PK. Hallelujah!

- BiggE


Fixed. Thanks.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

May 9 @ 8:11 AM ET
considering the year Provy just had I can see the best option being a bridge deal...But that's easy for me to say...if someone offers me 40 million for 6 years, it may be hard to turn down...lol
Having a deal in place for the long term and not weighing on his mind might be what's best for the player and his performance. Its hard to say after what was a sub par year for him. When I say sub par...that's by Provy's own standards....he can be a lot better.
I agree with what some claim that he did get better in the 2nd half of the season, but I still don't think his game reached the 2017-18 level. Interesting negotiation for sure.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 9 @ 8:15 AM ET
Bill, In your opinion what players are likely to thrive in AV's system and which might have a more difficult time adjusting.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 9 @ 8:26 AM ET
A holdout would be potentially dangerous for Prov, considering all the young dmen behind him who would relish taking his minutes and running with them.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 9 @ 8:59 AM ET
A holdout would be potentially dangerous for Prov, considering all the young dmen behind him who would relish taking his minutes and running with them.
- Tomahawk

That didn't hurt Nylander with the Leafs already being stacked offensively. You don't want to lose the asset or have to sell him for pennies on the dollar so ultimately you're going to pay the kid.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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May 9 @ 9:16 AM ET
A holdout would be potentially dangerous for Prov, considering all the young dmen behind him who would relish taking his minutes and running with them.
- Tomahawk



this probably would have been more likely had Provy had a super strong year....his demands probably would have been on a different level.
Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

May 9 @ 9:19 AM ET
With Yeo working with the defensemen, does that ease some of the worries of Therrien's coaching style clashing with and Ghost/Sanheim's game?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 02.04.2009

May 9 @ 9:22 AM ET
That didn't hurt Nylander with the Leafs already being stacked offensively. You don't want to lose the asset or have to sell him for pennies on the dollar so ultimately you're going to pay the kid.
- hereticpride


From Nylander's perspective, TO's depth dragged the whole thing out. They didn't need to sign him until the absolute last minute. Meanwhile, Marner, Hyman, Johansson and Kapanen picked up his shifts and they all saw their expanded roles continue, even after Nylander returned. Marner especially... he and Nylander used to be talked about in the same breath, but Marner is on a whole other level now.

I'm not quite sure the Flyers top-end depth on D comes close to TO's at F, but I hope Prov's agent doesn't go nuclear, or it could potentially drag out for both sides. He's definitely getting signed by the Flyers, just a matter of when.
copelal
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Baltimore, MD
Joined: 03.12.2014

May 9 @ 9:34 AM ET
Bobby Clarke scored to win 1974 SCF game 2 at 12:01 of OT.

Keith Primeau scored to win 2000 ECS game 4 at 12:01 of 5OT.

Any other happy endings at 12:01?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

May 9 @ 9:38 AM ET
Bobby Clarke scored to win 1974 SCF game 2 at 12:01 of OT.

Keith Primeau scored to win 2000 ECS game 4 at 12:01 of 5OT.

Any other happy endings at 12:01?

- copelal



Robert Kraft at a massage parlor?
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

May 9 @ 9:41 AM ET
Flyers can't afford NOT to have him signed. Something with get hammered out.
biggles88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sinking Spring, PA
Joined: 09.24.2015

May 9 @ 9:42 AM ET
I remember that Clarke goal like it happened yesterday.
I jumped up when he scored and hit the ceiling with both hands. then my Dad and I hugged each other. My Dad wasn't much of a hugger back then. My favorite memory from any game.
copelal
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.12.2014

May 9 @ 9:44 AM ET
Robert Kraft at a massage parlor?
- corduroy


Hmm - not exactly what I had in mind.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 9 @ 9:45 AM ET
@ does therrien not coaching d effect the worry about ghost sanheim. In ghost regard, no. They will still work together and he will spend a lot of time with him on the pp.

I think sanheim is fine.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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May 9 @ 9:54 AM ET
@ does therrien not coaching d effect the worry about ghost sanheim. In ghost regard, no. They will still work together and he will spend a lot of time with him on the pp.

I think sanheim is fine.

- Tfaehner


Yeo seems better suited to handle young dmen. Direct, but fair.

Flyers F's did a lot of cheating up the ice, cherry-picking, etc. I'm thinking Therrien's gonna embarrass people when they do it. TK's a guy I'd watch. He's already kinda flippant and cocky, and he flies the zone more than anybody. Could either lock horns w/ MT, or end up inexplicably thriving (a la Pacioretty).
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 9 @ 10:01 AM ET
Yeo seems better suited to handle young dmen. Direct, but fair.

Flyers F's did a lot of cheating up the ice, cherry-picking, etc. I'm thinking Therrien's gonna embarrass people when they do it. TK's a guy I'd watch. He's already kinda flippant and cocky, and he flies the zone more than anybody. Could either lock horns w/ MT, or end up inexplicably thriving (a la Pacioretty).

- Tomahawk


That’s ideal right there.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

May 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
Token quote.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

May 9 @ 10:30 AM ET
Bobby Clarke scored to win 1974 SCF game 2 at 12:01 of OT.

Keith Primeau scored to win 2000 ECS game 4 at 12:01 of 5OT.

Any other happy endings at 12:01?

- copelal



That would be me this morning. OH!!



I'll show myself out.....
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 9 @ 10:31 AM ET
Yeo seems better suited to handle young dmen. Direct, but fair.

Flyers F's did a lot of cheating up the ice, cherry-picking, etc. I'm thinking Therrien's gonna embarrass people when they do it. TK's a guy I'd watch. He's already kinda flippant and cocky, and he flies the zone more than anybody. Could either lock horns w/ MT, or end up inexplicably thriving (a la Pacioretty).

- Tomahawk


I think having forwards ready for an outlet will be integral to AV's system though. If I remember correctly he relies on team speed to keep the other teams "honest". It does become a problem when you play teams that can skate as fast but have more pure scorers a la Tampa and Pittsburgh.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 9 @ 10:46 AM ET
Yeo seems better suited to handle young dmen. Direct, but fair.

Flyers F's did a lot of cheating up the ice, cherry-picking, etc. I'm thinking Therrien's gonna embarrass people when they do it. TK's a guy I'd watch. He's already kinda flippant and cocky, and he flies the zone more than anybody. Could either lock horns w/ MT, or end up inexplicably thriving (a la Pacioretty).

- Tomahawk


The stretch pass is something that needs to be in the arsenal to keep their d backed off and honest. But I would agree the flyers did too much of it and way to many pop flies down the ice. Therrien is coming hope the group is ready!
SuperSchennBros
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May 9 @ 10:46 AM ET
A holdout would be potentially dangerous for Prov, considering all the young dmen behind him who would relish taking his minutes and running with them.
- Tomahawk

Agreed.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 9 @ 11:19 AM ET
A holdout would be potentially dangerous for Prov, considering all the young dmen behind him who would relish taking his minutes and running with them.
- Tomahawk


Looking at it the other way, a Provorov holdout would absolutely, not potentially, be devastating to the Flyers. I'm very excited about Sanheim & Myers too, but IMO starting next season without Provy in the lineup would hurt the Flyers a lot more than it would affect Provy.
Ultimately I don't think it really matters. I think a deal will get worked out
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
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May 9 @ 11:25 AM ET
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