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RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jan 14 @ 3:07 PM ET
I don't completely disagree with you.

I will point out that if the response had been anywhere near as strong against the Maga crowd as they were against the blm crowd, the capital would never have gained access to the building. Who's to blame for that? Several cops joined the crowd.
ACAB for sure. I'm not sure who bears that responsibility, actually I do, it's the Washington Governor who failed to mobilize an appropriate response.

As far as country wide, the Washington governor didn't protect the senate, allowing the rioters to gain access.
Personally I think the blm were good, I support them, I don't support the Maga rioters, just a bunch of spoiled brats.
I do find it hypocritical, what with the lack of response allowing access into the buildings.

The blm riots caused billions of damage and hundreds of lives. It also took over government buildings, court houses and such.

The only reason the Maga riots got into the buildings was a police failure to actually stop them which has resulted in media hysteria and censorship, rightful or wrong.

Therefore I'll say that it's the lack of response which is more dangerous. I'm not saying false flag, but some things were allowed to happen, the cops let them in instead of fighting them off.

The media doesn't want that though because orange man bad sells right now more then ACAB.

it's far more complicated and to assume one side or the other is wholly responsible is both ignorant and dangerous for the same reason that assuming I'm one side or another is prejudicial and ignorant.

- Pres.cup

I disagree.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 14 @ 3:58 PM ET
I disagree.
- RealityChecker


I disagree with your disagreement due to my wholly being in agreement with you.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 14 @ 6:44 PM ET


Our stances on most things are more closely aligned then you would think.

- Pres.cup

No they're not.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 14 @ 7:43 PM ET
No they're not.
- Marwood


Cool, you're not for drug decriminalization?

Basic human income?

Federally provided health care?

Social programs instead of jails?

Anti Racism?

Things like that?

I'm also into ACAB

Human freedoms and civil liberty

Anti gun control

Anti nazi and authoritarian governments

Eat the rich.

I'd imagine the ones at the top of the list are up your alley while the one's at the bottom you're more hesitant about, yes?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 14 @ 8:25 PM ET
Cool, you're not for drug decriminalization? No, absolutely not.

Basic human income? Already in place

Federally provided health care? Already in place

Social programs instead of jails? No, did the crime do the time

Anti Racism? Yes

Things like that? Not to your level

I'm also into ACAB...stupid (frank)ing acronym, stupid simplistic view

Human freedoms and civil liberty Not blanket freedoms that you are requesting, stupid people need direction and limits for the greater good of society.

Anti gun control see one above

Anti nazi and authoritarian governments. Like Trumps government sure

Eat the rich. Not a (frank)ing chance, earn your way, no free handouts, no to buying hotels for deranged drug addicts to burn down. No to coddling lazy ass people by giving out free drugs, free money, free shelter. Get a job and earn your living like all of us have to do.

I'd imagine the ones at the top of the list are up your alley while the one's at the bottom you're more hesitant about, yes?

- Pres.cup
No!!!
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
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Jan 14 @ 8:26 PM ET
No!!!
- Makita




Solid take.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 14 @ 8:28 PM ET


Solid take.

- Pres.cup

Thanks, go hug a deranged druggie.


Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 14 @ 8:38 PM ET
Cool, you're not for drug decriminalization?

Basic human income?

Federally provided health care?

Social programs instead of jails?

Anti Racism?

Things like that?

I'm also into ACAB

Human freedoms and civil liberty

Anti gun control

Anti nazi and authoritarian governments

Eat the rich.

I'd imagine the ones at the top of the list are up your alley while the one's at the bottom you're more hesitant about, yes?

- Pres.cup

No.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 14 @ 8:57 PM ET
No.
- Marwood

Agree on 60 percent, most.

I'm surprised about the basic human income and social programs instead of jails but they're controversial, not surprised about anti gun control, that's really the only right wing part of my portfolio.

Eat the rich refers to to higher taxes on the 1 percent, billionaires shouldn't be allowed to hide their money, again that's super controversial...

It's all good though, I'm good with 60 percent ... it means your politics are with mine more then they don't...
Pres.cup
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Jan 14 @ 8:59 PM ET
Thanks, go hug a deranged druggie.
- Makita


Naw, keep my distance from the deranged ones.

That's the type of solid judgements I've come to expect from around 90 percent of society.


Only a very, very small percent of the drug addicts are the ones who society perceives as deranged, most if not all of those suffer mental health issues and have a history of systemic abuse, but you know, let's just make sure they aren't cared for and continue marginalizing them, that'll fix things.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 15 @ 12:17 PM ET
Naw, keep my distance from the deranged ones.

That's the type of solid judgements I've come to expect from around 90 percent of society.


Only a very, very small percent of the drug addicts are the ones who society perceives as deranged, most if not all of those suffer mental health issues and have a history of systemic abuse, but you know, let's just make sure they aren't cared for and continue marginalizing them, that'll fix things.

- Pres.cup

Hey, I just wanted you to know I’ve been just jacking around, trying to get a rise out of you because of some of your whacked out conspiracy theories. So I would just take the opposite stances for shits and giggles. I’m really not a redneck heartless dickhead I’ve portrayed on here.
RealityChecker
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Joined: 04.18.2010

Jan 15 @ 3:10 PM ET
Hey, I just wanted you to know I’ve been just jacking around, trying to get a rise out of you because of some of your whacked out conspiracy theories. So I would just take the opposite stances for shits and giggles. I’m really not a redneck heartless dickhead I’ve portrayed on here.
- Makita

that's exactly what a redneck heartless dickhead would say!







Pres.cup
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Jan 15 @ 3:12 PM ET
Hey, I just wanted you to know I’ve been just jacking around, trying to get a rise out of you because of some of your whacked out conspiracy theories. So I would just take the opposite stances for shits and giggles. I’m really not a redneck heartless dickhead I’ve portrayed on here.
- Makita




Kinda figured, I'm yanking your chain back, had to throw a winky face in to try not to be a dick myself.
Pres.cup
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Jan 15 @ 3:12 PM ET
that's exactly what a redneck heartless dickhead would say!








- RealityChecker



Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 15 @ 4:16 PM ET
that's exactly what a redneck heartless dickhead would say!








- RealityChecker

you always could see right through me...
Pres.cup
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Jan 21 @ 12:07 AM ET
Like how Biden canceled a pipeline before letting the children out of their cages?
Makita
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Vancouver Canucks
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Jan 21 @ 2:18 AM ET
Like how Biden canceled a pipeline before letting the children out of their cages?
- Pres.cup

I know right, where are the priorities, already worse than Trump who put them in the cages
RealityChecker
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Joined: 04.18.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:44 AM ET
I know right, where are the priorities, already worse than Trump who put them in the cages
- Makita

you'll like this:

2 guys come up with a great way to make money be patriotic. They realize that the obese orange god couldn't build the wall that he wanted (money has to be apportioned by congress etc.) so these 2 guys "want to help."

They start a "charity" (non-profit) to solicit donations to help build the wall privately. They advertise (to the worshippers of the obese orange god) that they will hire contractors to help build the wall (or give the money directly to the government specifically to build the wall.)

The acolytes of the obese orange god are all like "weee's all likes the big wall. weeee's all's wants more of the big wall. wall is like food for us. we can never haves enufff!!!!"

Anywhooo, the 2 grifters patriots raise approx 20 million dollars from the moronic imbecile worshippers of the obese orange god.

Well, the 2 fine gentlemen use this charity money for.... well... living an expensive lifestyle is... well expensive. So they use the money to help fund some living essentials. Food, clothing and a big fancy new yacht.

The feds noticing that none of the money actually went to building the wall and all of it went to yachts and private bank accounts of the 2 "patriots" say, "you can't do that. TSK TSK!!!!" and charge the two with fraud, misappropriation etc.

Simply put, it's wrong to steal money. And it's wrong to steal money from supporters of the obese orange god in his name. Thou shalt not use the obese orange god's name in vain!

So, the two are facing massive charges. The paper evidence is clear. The money is gone. One guy bought a nice new yacht. The other took money and put it in private bank accounts. Basically, these guys are hooped.

....But what happens when you scam your own followers? What happens when you steal money from the worshippers of the obese orange god?

Yup... the obese orange god pardoned one of them. Was it because he was wrongly charged? No. Was it because it would be a miscarriage of justice? No. Was it because people didn't have their money stolen? No. Is it because he didn't mislead and fraudulently take the money of the people that he convinced he was helping? No.

In the words of the obese orange god, he was pardoned because he is an "important leader in the conservative movement and is known for his political acumen."
RealityChecker
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Jan 21 @ 9:57 AM ET
Interesting post script on the fraudster who swindled money from the moronic worshippers of the obese orange god.

Where do you think the fraudster was arrested? He was arrested by feds on the yacht of a Chinese billionaire.

Hmmmmmm.... Chinese billionaire? For you conspiracy theorists out there, that's intriguing in a "is this guy a double agent?" kind of way.

Fear not, this Chinese billionaire is a critic of China and the CPP.

In fact this Chinese billionaire is wanted by the CPP as they'll probably lock him up for his criticism.

How do we know that he's wanted?

Wellllll...... there's this other guy in California who secretly lobbied government and powerful officials to have that Chinese billionaire deported.

In fact, he was working on behalf of the CPP and the Chinese government. You are probably asking yourself, "hey RC, how can he do this in secret? Aren't people who work on behalf of foreign governments required to register as foreign agents?"

Well, yes they are. If they don't register they are un-registered agents of a foreign government working clandestinely on behalf of a foreign government.

Simply put, this guy was an unregistered agent of China/CPP and was working (undercover) to have the Chinese billionaire extradited to China to face the wrath of the CPP for his pro-democracy/anti-china ways.

Basically, in a broad sense he was an undercover agent of the Chinese government which is illegal. All foreign agents need to be registered under law. That distinguishes them from spies.

Anyway, this guy who was working undercover for the Chinese government/CPP was charged under FARA (Foreign Agents Registration Act.)

So, why do I bring up this guy? Well, this Chinese Agent who was trying in secret to have a pro-democracy/anti-China/CPP billionaire extradited to China....
was also pardoned by the obese orange god.

Drain the swamp.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
Like how Biden canceled a pipeline before letting the children out of their cages?
- Pres.cup


I love the tears of Trumpers.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jan 21 @ 12:12 PM ET
Interesting post script on the fraudster who swindled money from the moronic worshippers of the obese orange god.

Where do you think the fraudster was arrested? He was arrested by feds on the yacht of a Chinese billionaire.

Hmmmmmm.... Chinese billionaire? For you conspiracy theorists out there, that's intriguing in a "is this guy a double agent?" kind of way.

Fear not, this Chinese billionaire is a critic of China and the CPP.

In fact this Chinese billionaire is wanted by the CPP as they'll probably lock him up for his criticism.

How do we know that he's wanted?

Wellllll...... there's this other guy in California who secretly lobbied government and powerful officials to have that Chinese billionaire deported.

In fact, he was working on behalf of the CPP and the Chinese government. You are probably asking yourself, "hey RC, how can he do this in secret? Aren't people who work on behalf of foreign governments required to register as foreign agents?"

Well, yes they are. If they don't register they are un-registered agents of a foreign government working clandestinely on behalf of a foreign government.

Simply put, this guy was an unregistered agent of China/CPP and was working (undercover) to have the Chinese billionaire extradited to China to face the wrath of the CPP for his pro-democracy/anti-china ways.

Basically, in a broad sense he was an undercover agent of the Chinese government which is illegal. All foreign agents need to be registered under law. That distinguishes them from spies.

Anyway, this guy who was working undercover for the Chinese government/CPP was charged under FARA (Foreign Agents Registration Act.)

So, why do I bring up this guy? Well, this Chinese Agent who was trying in secret to have a pro-democracy/anti-China/CPP billionaire extradited to China....
was also pardoned by the obese orange god.

Drain the swamp.

- RealityChecker




I also love the fact that the QAnon folk are in shambles. Some are even wondering if it was all a lie... naw, couldn’t be...

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN29P2VO
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 04.18.2010

Jan 21 @ 1:08 PM ET


I also love the fact that the QAnon folk are in shambles. Some are even wondering if it was all a lie... naw, couldn’t be...

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN29P2VO

- bloatedmosquito

my absolute favourite was from a pumpkin worshipper who said, without a hint of self-awareness, "be patient... jesus rose on the third day."
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 21 @ 2:46 PM ET


I also love the fact that the QAnon folk are in shambles. Some are even wondering if it was all a lie... naw, couldn’t be...

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN29P2VO

- bloatedmosquito


I came in to post this link:

https://globalnews.ca/new...biden-inauguration-trump/

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 21 @ 5:02 PM ET
I know right, where are the priorities, already worse than Trump who put them in the cages
- Makita


First, not pro Trump, just like storing the pot a little... making libtards cry is a fun as making trumptards cry.



Narratives, the truth is Obama built the cages and put the kids in there, Trump just let it continue after the media got ahold of it, and defended it like a tool..... but the great Obama built them and expanded bushes surveillance state laws after Snowden exposed the lies...
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 21 @ 5:45 PM ET


I also love the fact that the QAnon folk are in shambles. Some are even wondering if it was all a lie... naw, couldn’t be...

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN29P2VO

- bloatedmosquito



Idiots
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