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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 16 @ 8:19 PM ET
i think we're more politically alike than not.

as for JT, i just don't see where you're coming from.

increased isolation?
1) his dealing with China: the huawei decision was based on US intentions/pressure as well as international treaty (extradition). had he not done it, he's further pi$$ing off his biggest trade partner.
since he did do it, he pi$$es off china. they have no problems kicking us in the balls b/c they know we can do very little about it.
2) his dealings with Saudi Arabia. he has been 2 faced just like all the other countries in the west. (frank) saudi and their backward 5 centuries ago attitudes and behaviour.
call them out for being immoral, barbaric kunts that they are. fcuking barberous KUNTS.
so they show themselves to be the b!tches they are by pulling their money out. fcuk them.

anyway, 1) and 2) are only problems because the states has abandoned their allies. in the past, the american president would have backed up canada in BOTH OF THESE INSTANCES.

since Tubby Trump likes to fellate despots, the world order has turned. western democracies can't rely on the US for international support in diplomacy.

btw, if you want to claim that JT and Canada should STFU about other countries and focus on economics, i would like to ask which PM EVER has done that?

so at the end of the day, JT is acting like all the PMs before him. canada's virtue signalling is a prerequisite for the job.

- RealityChecker


I strongly agree with the bolded. I sometimes cringe at our government's double standards. I don't like when Canada publicly criticises other countries regardless of the situation. It's arrogant to believe we could understand the complexities of these issues; whether it's Afghanistan, Saudi, Iraq, Uganda, etc.

Appealing to the court of public opinion is a joke. You handle these situations discreetly, through the normal diplomatic channels. Embarrassing strong men is not a strategic plan.

We shouldn't be engaging in any serious trade talks with non-democratic countries. I think it's insane. The playing field is not level. Too much likelihood of corruption either directly or indirectly; Russia, China, Saudi, EAU, Iran, etc. It's like going into business with the Mafia.

In regards to isolation, my concern is with other country's reaction to what I believe are serious diplomatic issues like having to Canadians kidnapped by Chinese authorities. Very quiet. Why? Because China is an economic powerhouse? I think it's more than that. I'll use the FIFO thorium as a quick example... Fit In or (frank) Off.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 16 @ 9:06 PM ET
I strongly agree with the bolded. I sometimes cringe at our government's double standards. I don't like when Canada publicly criticises other countries regardless of the situation. It's arrogant to believe we could understand the complexities of these issues; whether it's Afghanistan, Saudi, Iraq, Uganda, etc.

Appealing to the court of public opinion is a joke. You handle these situations discreetly, through the normal diplomatic channels. Embarrassing strong men is not a strategic plan.

I don't think we shouldn't be engaging in any serious trade talks with non-democratic countries. I think it's insane. The playing field is not level. Too much likelihood of corruption either directly or indirectly; Russia, China, Saudi, EAU, Iran, etc. It's like going into business with the Mafia.

In regards to isolation, my concern is with other country's reaction to what I believe are serious diplomatic issues like having to Canadians kidnapped by Chinese authorities. Very quiet. Why? Because China is an economic powerhouse? I think it's more than that. I'll use the FIFO thorium as a quick example... Fit In or (frank) Off.

- bloatedmosquito

there's someone on this site who always defends russia. can't seem to remember who it is.

perhaps, you know him?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 16 @ 9:17 PM ET
there's someone on this site who always defends russia. can't seem to remember who it is.

perhaps, you know him?

- RealityChecker


if you're talking Booner, I really wish he would join this fray because he gets right into the real dark-state poop. Illuminati poop. Too bad. Maybe I can try and bury the hatchet so at least he may respond to others on this thread. It would be fun.

If you are talking Trump... then I don't think he posts on here anymore.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 16 @ 9:20 PM ET
if you're talking Booner, I really wish he would join this fray because he gets right into the real dark-state poop. Illuminati poop. Too bad. Maybe I can try and bury the hatchet so at least he may respond to others on this thread. It would be fun.

If you are talking Trump... then I don't think he posts on here anymore.

- bloatedmosquito

How dare you misquote me.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 16 @ 9:23 PM ET
How dare you misquote me.
- RealityChecker


I was summarizing.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 17 @ 11:32 AM ET
I was summarizing.
- bloatedmosquito

You can't summarize narratives.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 17 @ 12:09 PM ET
You can't summarize narratives.
- Marwood


you can summarize sob stories though
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
I'm convinced, next election I'm voting for the transvestite.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 17 @ 4:54 PM ET
I'm convinced, next election I'm voting for the transvestite.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 17 @ 5:53 PM ET
I'm convinced, next election I'm voting for the transvestite.
- A_SteamingLombardi


So Trudeau again...
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 17 @ 6:20 PM ET
So Trudeau again...
- Makita

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 17 @ 6:44 PM ET
So Trudeau again...
- Makita

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 17 @ 7:26 PM ET
So Trudeau again...
- Makita

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 20 @ 8:10 PM ET
So Trudeau again...
- Makita


RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 20 @ 9:45 PM ET
So Trudeau again...
- Makita

Danny Bomber
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.01.2017

May 21 @ 6:23 PM ET
I'm convinced, next election I'm voting for the transvestite.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
Can we get back to hating each other.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 22 @ 1:06 PM ET
Can we get back to hating each other.
- Marwood

Tell me you are voting UPC and that should start it off.

Does the real Conservative party even exist, or is it all these creepy looking, stay away from my family types that are the Conservative party
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

May 22 @ 1:10 PM ET
Tell me you are voting UPC and that should start it off.

Does the real Conservative party even exist, or is it all these creepy looking, stay away from my family types that are the Conservative party

- Makita


Gordon Campbell's liberals?

Aside from that, maybe in NS?

The old conservative party has been taken over by the old reform crowd.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 22 @ 1:18 PM ET
Gordon Campbell's liberals?

Aside from that, maybe in NS?

The old conservative party has been taken over by the old reform crowd.

- golfingsince

Which seem like a Christian fundamentalists group now, maybe Alberta will turn into Alabama v2.0
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
Which seem like a Christian fundamentalists group now, maybe Alberta will turn into Alabama v2.0
- Makita


People say that money is the root of all evil. I think organized religion is.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

May 22 @ 3:16 PM ET
People say that money is the root of all evil. I think organized religion is.
- bloatedmosquito


They're both culprits IMO.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 22 @ 4:52 PM ET
They're both culprits IMO.
- golfingsince


I think standardized currency is a good thing. We just (frank)ed it up with greed. Not money's fault.

Greed was one of the original sins of civilization. Now it's mainstream...

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 22 @ 5:43 PM ET
People say that money is the root of all evil. I think organized religion is.
- bloatedmosquito

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 22 @ 5:48 PM ET
Tell me you are voting UPC and that should start it off.

Does the real Conservative party even exist, or is it all these creepy looking, stay away from my family types that are the Conservative party

- Makita

You mean people like Tony Clement?
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