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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 17 @ 6:37 PM ET
Yup and look at the restaurant here in BC. Just one person can (frank) up months of dedicated adherence.

This is why I shake my head in disbelief about the NHL trying to salvage this season/playoffs. It might go well with no problems, but if it doesn’t, it could be a disaster.

- bloatedmosquito


19 new cases in BC today. Not a great 24 hour for us.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 17 @ 6:37 PM ET
Bejing and the rest of the world.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/he...st-of-the-world-1.4987773

- Marwood


pretty sad isnt it
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 17 @ 7:05 PM ET
pretty sad isnt it
- Codes1087

Yes but the playoffs will make it better.
*looks for cheerleader emoji*
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 17 @ 7:11 PM ET
Yes but the playoffs will make it better.
*looks for cheerleader emoji*

- Marwood


Alt-left mentality for thinking lives are more important than playoffs lol
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 17 @ 7:25 PM ET
Alt-left mentality for thinking lives are more important than playoffs lol
- Codes1087

WE MUST BE ENTERTAINED!!! NOW!!!
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 17 @ 7:29 PM ET
19 new cases in BC today. Not a great 24 hour for us.
- Codes1087


I get that it's not great, I really do. However, if eradication is the goal then why not come out and say it publicly. As far as I'm aware the goal has never been more than flattening the curve and lowering the case count.

I mean it seems as though eradication has been the goal in certain jurisdictions, but not others. That doesn't work when different jurisdictions are sharing essential workers and having others transport goods.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 17 @ 8:19 PM ET
I get that it's not great, I really do. However, if eradication is the goal then why not come out and say it publicly. As far as I'm aware the goal has never been more than flattening the curve and lowering the case count.

I mean it seems as though eradication has been the goal in certain jurisdictions, but not others. That doesn't work when different jurisdictions are sharing essential workers and having others transport goods.

- golfingsince

There can never be eradication without a vaccine, period. If that is the goal then everyone needs to isolate, including essential service.

If the goal is to flatten the curve people need to strictly adhere to the guidelines instituted by the health authorities. And all health authorities need to implement the same strict guidelines, BC can’t be implementing measures different from NB, stages of restrictions can be offset, but jurisdictions flouting the effects of the virus while others are In adherence with preventative measures cannot happen.

Otherwise this virus will continue on an unstoppable path.

My opinion, sorry if it offends anyone else’s.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 17 @ 8:22 PM ET
There can never be eradication without a vaccine, period. If that is the goal then everyone needs to isolate, including essential service.

If the goal is to flatten the curve people need to strictly adhere to the guidelines instituted by the health authorities. And all health authorities need to implement the same strict guidelines, BC can’t be implementing measures different from NB, stages of restrictions can be offset, but jurisdictions flouting the effects of the virus while others are In adherence with preventative measures cannot happen.

Otherwise this virus will continue on an unstoppable path.

My opinion, sorry if it offends anyone else’s.

- Makita


Your thoughtful and educated post goes well in here, but I wouldn't take it to the main thread if I were you, it would offend some for taking the virus seriously
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 17 @ 8:25 PM ET
I get that it's not great, I really do. However, if eradication is the goal then why not come out and say it publicly. As far as I'm aware the goal has never been more than flattening the curve and lowering the case count.

I mean it seems as though eradication has been the goal in certain jurisdictions, but not others. That doesn't work when different jurisdictions are sharing essential workers and having others transport goods.

- golfingsince


Eradicating only comes with a vaccine. Flattening the curve and minimizing community transfer is all we are trying to do right now. It's working, somewhat, but we need to implement federal restrictions and not provincial imo. We also cant lift restrictions at the first site of things going well, as all it takes is one idiot to bring it all crashing down again. We need to be strict and be diligent until we all get this vaccine imo.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:00 PM ET
There can never be eradication without a vaccine, period. If that is the goal then everyone needs to isolate, including essential service.

If the goal is to flatten the curve people need to strictly adhere to the guidelines instituted by the health authorities. And all health authorities need to implement the same strict guidelines, BC can’t be implementing measures different from NB, stages of restrictions can be offset, but jurisdictions flouting the effects of the virus while others are In adherence with preventative measures cannot happen.

Otherwise this virus will continue on an unstoppable path.

My opinion, sorry if it offends anyone else’s.

- Makita


I disagree but I agree with it in reality.

I get the jurisdiction thing. From the outset we had among the most stringent rules in the country despite the lowest of case counts. That's why the province was so effective. Again, population density matters......I mean I hope this is considered a foregone conclusion when speaking on the subject.

Now that our policies province (and nation) wide have opened, cases will continue to spread despite following guidelines.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:29 PM ET
Eradicating only comes with a vaccine. Flattening the curve and minimizing community transfer is all we are trying to do right now. It's working, somewhat, but we need to implement federal restrictions and not provincial imo. We also cant lift restrictions at the first site of things going well, as all it takes is one idiot to bring it all crashing down again. We need to be strict and be diligent until we all get this vaccine imo.
- Codes1087


I agree to a certain extent.

We should be able to lift restrictions if EVERYONE could follow health guidelines. Unfortunately, many aren't capable of doing so. Therefore, restrictions must remain tighter than otherwise necessary.

I don't dispute the severity of the virus nor it's contagion level, I just know there are ways around it.

And yes, eradication without vaccine is possible. However, nobody seems willing to go through that pain and effort. We'll see what happens if we're still without a vaccine a year + from now and we've lost millions of lives while only infecting 15% of the global population.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:18 AM ET
I disagree but I agree with it in reality.

I get the jurisdiction thing. From the outset we had among the most stringent rules in the country despite the lowest of case counts. That's why the province was so effective. Again, population density matters......I mean I hope this is considered a foregone conclusion when speaking on the subject.

Now that our policies province (and nation) wide have opened, cases will continue to spread despite following guidelines.

- golfingsince

To an extent. Vancouver Island how more cases north island (sparse pop.) than south island (dense pop.). Granted the high numbers north island are probably due to the outbreak in Alert Bay (beautiful, beautiful spot).


Nice to see Makita posting again!!
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
Tampa bay lightning training facility closed due to "several" players and several staff contracting covid19. This happened during phase 2 of the NHL's return to work.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 19 @ 2:37 PM ET
A PGA golfer has tested positive AT the PGA tournament for covid19

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 3:56 PM ET
Tampa bay lightning training facility closed due to "several" players and several staff contracting covid19. This happened during phase 2 of the NHL's return to work.
- Codes1087

the nhl announced the slogan for their return:

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 19 @ 4:49 PM ET
the nhl announced the slogan for their return:


- RealityChecker


Auston matthews just tested positive for covid19. Not sure why he was the only player named, but I wonder if the league will change its stance now that a superstar has it
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 6:42 PM ET
Auston matthews just tested positive for covid19. Not sure why he was the only player named, but I wonder if the league will change its stance now that a superstar has it
- Codes1087

it'll be interesting if a superstar tests positive. not sure that matthews who's a middle sixer on a non-consequential team changes much though.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:11 PM ET
it'll be interesting if a superstar tests positive. not sure that matthews who's a middle sixer on a non-consequential team changes much though.
- RealityChecker




bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:13 PM ET
Anyone hear about the "betting game" of guessing the alcohol level of the first nations patient arriving in BC ERs?

This one's going to create waves...
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 19 @ 8:53 PM ET
To an extent. Vancouver Island how more cases north island (sparse pop.) than south island (dense pop.). Granted the high numbers north island are probably due to the outbreak in Alert Bay (beautiful, beautiful spot).


Nice to see Makita posting again!!

- Marwood


NHL announces 11 players have tested positive for covid19 since phase 2 started. That number doesn't include the sens or avs players who tested positive before.

#playoffs
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 19 @ 8:58 PM ET
NHL announces 11 players have tested positive for covid19 since phase 2 started. That number doesn't include the sens or avs players who tested positive before.

#playoffs

- Codes1087

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 19 @ 9:44 PM ET

- Marwood


I hope every professional sports league cancels everything after today.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 19 @ 9:47 PM ET
28 members of the Clemson university football team have tested positive since returning to the facility 2 weeks ago. 23 of those players are players.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 20 @ 12:23 AM ET
Yes and his story has changed several times and now he's trying to say he caught it there.
- golfingsince


Cherries ready in Oliver, not here yet.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 20 @ 12:24 AM ET
28 members of the Clemson university football team have tested positive since returning to the facility 2 weeks ago. 23 of those players are players.
- Codes1087



As much as I love sports, time to throw in the towel.
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