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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
You like Trouba but not Letang?
- Feds91Stammer


He's 32, has played for 13 years and he had a stroke. Hard pass
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
58 points in 50 games as a number one center for production is pretty damn good in ottawa

higher ppg then jack had as a center last season and he didn't have a 40 goal scorer on his wing

not to mention, duchene is fast, and botts wants a fast team

I think duchene is better for the next 6 or 7 years then skinner

- homiedclown


That’s the ONLY time in his career he’s been over a ppg pace
And his high points in a season is 70 i believe

Explain how he keeps up that point pace here,
when JACK is ahead of him getting all the 1C offensive ice time
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 4:03 PM ET

William Karlsson (if Vegas would trade him) would be the perfect fit

- jdfitz77

he is going to want at least 6 per

and got less points then duchene and will cost assets


karlsson .53 ppg in the nhl
duchene .75 ppg in nhl
your move
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 16 @ 4:03 PM ET
Oh it's a terrible idea..... this team and this board just ran a 2C out of town making 7.5M a year who averaged 65-70 pts a year.


Same board who cries about him being gone now too.

- JVince11


^this guy gets it
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 4:03 PM ET
He's 32, has played for 13 years and he had a stroke. Hard pass
- jcragcrumple

Fair enough.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
how about sending him to Pitts with the late 1st rounder we have for Malkin? Would you take 3 years of malkin at 9+ mil a year? I think I would... I think Malkin gets traded this summer...

Edit: before anyone kills me for that proposal, I think it would take more then just that....

- hehateme


Not saying it can't happen, but every year the Pens don't win the Cup, there are Malkin rumors.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
Oh it's a terrible idea..... this team and this board just ran a 2C out of town making 7.5M a year who averaged 65-70 pts a year.


Same board who cries about him being gone now too.

- JVince11



Good post

Now the 65-70 point center will be making 9.5-10 million and be signed thru 2027 instead of 2023
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 4:05 PM ET
That’s the ONLY time in his career he’s been over a ppg pace
And his high points in a season is 70 i believe

Explain how he keeps up that point pace here,
when JACK is ahead of him getting all the 1C offensive ice time

- jdfitz77

he got 70 points again last season

botts will build down the middle, with speed

H6
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 4:06 PM ET
Good post

Now the 65-70 point center will be making 9.5-10 million and be signed thru 2027 instead of 2023

- Boss34

and 3 gears faster then ror
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 4:07 PM ET
he is going to want at least 6 per

and got less points then duchene and will cost assets


karlsson .53 ppg in the nhl
duchene .75 ppg in nhl
your move

- homiedclown

5v5 p60 last 2 seasons

Karlsson 2.20

Duchene 2.22
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 16 @ 4:07 PM ET
he got 70 points again last season

botts will build down the middle, with speed

H6

- homiedclown


So you're saying my boy Erod is getting a multi year extension
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

May 16 @ 4:08 PM ET
So you're saying my boy Erod is getting a multi year extension
- jcragcrumple

He should. 4yrs 6m do it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 4:10 PM ET
So you're saying my boy Erod is getting a multi year extension
- jcragcrumple

he ain't going anywhere
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 16 @ 4:13 PM ET
Ok, let’s just take Duchene’s name out of it for a minute

And even speculate that Casey does get moved to the wing

Should we be trying to pay a 2C that’ll score 60points 9-10mil per year???
That just seems like a really bad idea to me

- jdfitz77


To you and me it is, but that's the going rate now....
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 16 @ 4:14 PM ET
and 3 gears faster then ror
- homiedclown


He is definitely different then ror

Much faster less grit

Seems like off the ice he finds a bit of trouble.

They supposedly weren't getting along with each other in Colorado.

And the uber video

$10 big ones a year. Better be squeaky clean and a great teammate
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 4:14 PM ET
To you and me it is, but that's the going rate now....
- hehateme

petry looked like a bad deal when he signed with the habs, 5 mil for a fringe 3rd d man

now it's a steal
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 16 @ 4:15 PM ET
he got 70 points again last season

botts will build down the middle, with speed

H6

- homiedclown


He got 70pts bc he was in the 1C role with Ottawa

He would NOT be in that role here

His points will drop back down to 60ish bc he will be the 2C
And he will not be getting those same opportunities
Or be playing with Mark Stone on his wing

Duchene on buffalo is a 20-25goal scorer,
with 60ish points
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 16 @ 4:16 PM ET
So you're saying my boy Erod is getting a multi year extension
- jcragcrumple


I envision a 3 or 4 year deal 2 per for erod.

The more I read about krueger, the more I feel like erod is gonna benefit most from the new coach
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 16 @ 4:16 PM ET
He is definitely different then ror

Much faster less grit


- Boss34

thought you had to take a few penalties if you had grit

I kid


duchene at 10 per and no assets moved IMO would be better then moving assets to get karlsson and lock him up in the 6 to 7 mil range

unless vegas wants okposo
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 16 @ 4:16 PM ET
5v5 p60 last 2 seasons

Karlsson 2.20

Duchene 2.22

- Feds91Stammer


And Karlsson is actually GOOD defensively
And will cost around 3mil less per season

It’s a no brainer IF we could trade for him
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 16 @ 4:17 PM ET
petry looked like a bad deal when he signed with the habs, 5 mil for a fringe 3rd d man

now it's a steal

- homiedclown


I don't care if they have 3 players eating up 30-40% of cap space. Eichel 10, Skinner 8.5, Duchene 9.5, the key is getting rid of Okposo.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 16 @ 4:18 PM ET
He got 70pts bc he was in the 1C role with Ottawa

He would NOT be in that role here

His points will drop back down to 60ish bc he will be the 2C
And he will not be getting those same opportunities
Or be playing with Mark Stone on his wing

Duchene on buffalo is a 20-25goal scorer,
with 60ish points

- jdfitz77


Duchene with Oloffsson and Caufield could be deadly for years....
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

May 16 @ 4:20 PM ET
Trouba, Trouba, Trouba.

I do not know why or why not. I cannot get behind trading the potential of the 7 OA for Please enlighten, if you will.

424 36 158 194 -143
408 42 137 179 +37

While the +/- is a function of team, more than the individual, aren't the two players represented by the numbers above, similar?

I would argue Trouba would be a -143 on the Sabres. I do not see the upgrade with him over Risto. Someone with a PhD in analytics will tell me I am a fool but, I am not sure I am.

Perhaps another case of "Get Rid Of {insert name here}.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 16 @ 4:20 PM ET
Duchene with Oloffsson and Caufield could be deadly for years....
- hehateme


So could Mitts with those 2
And we won’t have to pay him 10mil per
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 16 @ 4:21 PM ET
Oh it's a terrible idea..... this team and this board just ran a 2C out of town making 7.5M a year who averaged 65-70 pts a year.


Same board who cries about him being gone now too.

- JVince11


Same board who I’ll be laughing at when he’s a 40-45 point centre in a year and a half and still making $7.5M a year.
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