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Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

May 15 @ 3:48 PM ET
Oh yeah.

I don’t know exactly where you got confused, but it was a pretty standard comment. There’s been tons of talk about AM playing for his hometown since before he played in the NHL. I think he’s not married to the idea of being a Leaf forever.

As for Tkatchuk and Chabot, that’s more than fair value for him.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Depends how the Yotes look in 5 years, I suppose. Could be relocated by then.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
Depends how the Yotes look in 5 years, I suppose. Could be relocated by then.
- Leafsmart

They won’t be..

We’ve been talking about re-locating them for 12 years now..

And that dude who said AM playing in ARI wouldn’t boost support for hockey in the area is 10-ply..
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
Oh yeah.

I don’t know exactly where you got confused, but it was a pretty standard comment. There’s been tons of talk about AM playing for his hometown since before he played in the NHL. I think he’s not married to the idea of being a Leaf forever.

As for Tkatchuk and Chabot, that’s more than fair value for him.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Read what you said.

You said that the NHL would make it happen because they will make more money.

And Matthews hasn’t said poop about playing in his hometown. It’s the media. In reality no one knows what Matthews wants.

Until Arizona can make enough money to be a competitive team I doubt any star would want to go there. Unless they don’t care about winning and (frank) having a player like that on your team anyways.

The moral of the story is that if you think Matthews is going to Arizona your opinion is coming out of thin air and no real facts. Facts say that Arizona is a franchise that doesn’t make a lot of money and until that changes they won’t be a player in free agency. And the NHL can’t make a player play somewhere.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 15 @ 3:53 PM ET
They won’t be..

We’ve been talking about re-locating them for 12 years now..

And that dude who said AM playing in ARI wouldn’t boost support for hockey in the area is 10-ply..

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Sure it would.

But if the NHL wants to make money off Matthews they ain’t making much if he is playing for Arizona.

Will Arizona make some extra cash? Sure. Will Matthews be marketable? Not even close to the amount he would be playing for a Toronto, NY, Montreal.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 3:53 PM ET
you are right, Kadri should have double shifted Nylander
- senstroll

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 15 @ 3:54 PM ET
Read what you said.

You said that the NHL would make it happen because they will make more money.

And Matthews hasn’t said poop about playing in his hometown. It’s the media. In reality no one knows what Matthews wants.

Until Arizona can make enough money to be a competitive team I doubt any star would want to go there. Unless they don’t care about winning and (frank) having a player like that on your team anyways.

The moral of the story is that if you think Matthews is going to Arizona your opinion is coming out of thin air and no real facts. Facts say that Arizona is a franchise that doesn’t make a lot of money and until that changes they won’t be a player in free agency. And the NHL can’t make a player play somewhere.

- Santo_44

Maybe they’ll make money if they have a superstar..

Are you high??
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 15 @ 3:55 PM ET
Matthews was born in LA. That would be a better marketing opportunity than Phoenix.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 15 @ 3:55 PM ET
Tkatchuk is more than a goofy ECHL looking or whatever, player.

He’s a (frank)ing stud and he’ll punch you in the face. I expect him to have a similar career path as Marchand.

You guys who think Karlsson sucks are really really special.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Again, I don't see it.

And Karlsson is, has been, and always will be atrocious defensively. This part isn't even up for discussion. Offensively, he's always been amazing. Also not up for debate.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 15 @ 3:56 PM ET
Sure it would.

But if the NHL wants to make money off Matthews they ain’t making much if he is playing for Arizona.

Will Arizona make some extra cash? Sure. Will Matthews be marketable? Not even close to the amount he would be playing for a Toronto, NY, Montreal.

- Santo_44

You just want to argue.😒
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 15 @ 3:57 PM ET
Maybe they’ll make money if they have a superstar..

Are you high??

- Arctic_AARDVARK

You are both wrong.....

He will be playing for the LA Kings

He was actually born in San Francisco
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

May 15 @ 3:57 PM ET
I think AM will be moved to ARI in his final year. There’s too much money to make for the NHL not to make it happen. Toronto will always sell tickets and merch.

I think AM is our best player, but I’d trade him for Tkatchuk and Chabot if Ottawa was willing.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

That is without a doubt the dumbest trade proposal in the history of hockeybuzz.
Sandro
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

May 15 @ 3:58 PM ET
Leafs cannot sign Marner to the same length as Matthews (5 Year Deal). You dont want to put yourself in a situation where you are potentially re-negociating new deals at the same time. Either sign Marner to 6-8 yer deal.

Marner does not deserve more than $10-$10.5 Mil Per year. At the end of the Day, Wingers are worth a bit less than Centremen. Tavares is at $11 Mil and Matthews is at $11.6 Mil.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 15 @ 3:58 PM ET
Again, I don't see it.

And Karlsson is, has been, and always will be atrocious defensively. This part isn't even up for discussion. Offensively, he's always been amazing. Also not up for debate.

- GreatGigInTheSky

He more than makes up for it with his offence...

Anyways, he’s probably going to the finals for 2 out of 3 years, so... he’s probably a good player to have on your team regardless of however you view his defensive game.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 15 @ 3:59 PM ET
Maybe they’ll make money if they have a superstar..

Are you high??

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Holy (frank).

You said that the NHL. I repeat the NHL. Will want Matthews to play on Arizona so that the NHL. Yes the NHL can make more money.

Cool, if Matthew plays on Arizona the Arizona coyotes will make more money. Awesome.

The NHL will make more money off Matthews if Matthews plays in the most marketable place.

It’s really not hard.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 15 @ 4:00 PM ET
You just want to argue.😒
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I see you can’t handle a debate.

Don’t throw around opinions if you can’t handle someone disagreeing with it.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 15 @ 4:01 PM ET
That is without a doubt the dumbest trade proposal in the history of hockeybuzz.
- shack67

You’ve been here for like 4 months gramps.

Go ahead, pile on. Just make sure you wear your orthotics, because I’m gonna walk you to the legion.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 15 @ 4:02 PM ET
You are both wrong.....

He will be playing for the LA Kings

He was actually born in San Francisco

- mr.sir


So you are saying he moved to a different city and stayed there? I can’t believe that his family haven’t moved back to San Fransisco. It’s obvious that people like to live in their hometown.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 4:02 PM ET
Matthews was born in LA. That would be a better marketing opportunity than Phoenix.
- aminnes


his family moved to Arizona, when he was 2 yrs old.


Saying Matthews is from California is like saying Nylander is Canadian.

Crap. I did it again.. I'm comparing Matthews to Nylander
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 15 @ 4:02 PM ET
You are both wrong.....

He will be playing for the LA Kings

He was actually born in San Francisco

- mr.sir

You know San Jose is pretty much a part of San Fran 😉

So it would probably be there.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 15 @ 4:03 PM ET
his family moved to Arizona, when was 2 yrs old.


Saying Matthews is from California is like saying Nylander is Canadian.

Crap. I did it again.. I'm comparing Matthews to Nylander

- PatC80


Okay. So are you saying LA is not a better marketing opportunity?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 4:04 PM ET
Okay. So are you saying LA is not a better marketing opportunity?
- aminnes


When did I say that?

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 15 @ 4:05 PM ET
Okay. So are you saying LA is not a better marketing opportunity?
- aminnes

People tune in to watch the Leafs just to hope they will lose......

People barely tune in to watch Arizona win.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

May 15 @ 4:09 PM ET
When did I say that?


- PatC80


I said he was born in LA. Then I said LA was a better marketing opportunity. Then you said we shouldn't say he is from LA because they moved. So I asked you if you thought LA was a better marketing opportunity, which was the point of my post that you turned into some point about where we are supposed to say he's from.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 15 @ 4:10 PM ET
I see you can’t handle a debate.

Don’t throw around opinions if you can’t handle someone disagreeing with it.

- Santo_44

I debate these things all the time..

I don’t I know what there is to debate here. I said I could see AM going to his hometown. That’s not far-fetched. Tavares came here didn’t he? Also I’ve noticed you’re hanging onto the comment that “the NHL should find a way to do this” (or something to that effect) and you’re completely taking it out of context. Like AA! How could you possible the NHL would meddle!?!?

Because a poop-ton of money is involved. We aren’t supposed to believe this happens, but it’s a business.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Planet of the Leafs, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 15 @ 4:11 PM ET
The 12 year old gang bang where they take turns (frank)ing her to gain courage? Interesting take.
- AdamFrench

No the part where the bullies give each other handjobs at the town dump.
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