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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

May 17 @ 11:30 AM ET
Todd Cordell: TSN's trade bait board features a lot of Calgary Flames flavour
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 17 @ 11:34 AM ET
Would Calgary entertain trading Lindholm?
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Would Calgary entertain trading Lindholm?
- Slimtj100

You would be buying awfully high, not sure Rangers would like the price tag to pry him out. He fit our top line pretty good.

Shocked Hamonic is on this list, word was he really likes it here & will probably sign for a pretty reasonable extension, but who knows with Tre. Maybe he dangles Hammy's name to lure the buyers, quotes a whacko price tag & then says...well.....maybe you can have Brodie for this...or........Stone for a real bargain.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
Was also surprised to see Hamonic on there - given that he has stated wanting to play close to home, maybe he's indicated a desire to get to Winnipeg in free agency, that's about the only thing I can think of. Maybe a swap for Trouba conditional on Trouba signing in YYC?
quinneroma
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.26.2015

May 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
I would be happy to see the Flames make any of these trades:

1. Frolik plus 2020 2nd rounder for Zucker.
2. Brodie to the leafs for Andreas Johnsson or Kasperi Kapanen. The Leafs need D, Gardiner and Hainsey are UFA's and likely gone. They cannot resign them and Marner, and Johnsson and Kapanen. Impossible. Brodie and Gardiner are similar players. Brodie is cheaper, at least for one more year.
3. Stone with the Flames retaining $500k to anyone for a 5th-6th round pick. Clear 3 million off our books.
4. Monahan to Detroit or the Rangers for something really nice coming back (They both have lots to be interested in such a trade). Move Lindholm to center. Gaudreau-Lindholm-Zucker.
5. Jankowski to an Eastern team (Buffalo?) for a 2nd round pick or a high 3rd round pick.
6. Kylington (great upside prospect) + Neal and a 5th rounder to Ottawa or someone who can take his salary, for a 3rd or 4th. Gotta get rid of Neal! He really doesn't fit on this team!
Then you can resign Tkachuk, Rittich, another goalie (McElhinney preferably), Bennett, Mangiapane, and perhaps Hathaway, or give his spot to Lazar for cheaper or someone else signed.

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Zucker
Tkachuk-Backlund-Mangiapane/Johnsson
Bennett-Ryan-one of above
Dube-Quine (resigned) or Lazar, or someone new- 2 open spots
Gio-Andersson
Ham-Han
Valimaki-Fantenburg (if resigned) or Jordie Benn, or ?
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 17 @ 3:27 PM ET
Was also surprised to see Hamonic on there - given that he has stated wanting to play close to home, maybe he's indicated a desire to get to Winnipeg in free agency, that's about the only thing I can think of. Maybe a swap for Trouba conditional on Trouba signing in YYC?
- rmull905

Trouba has one more year of RFA so basically we can get a year deal hammered out if Tre cant convince him to sign longer. Hamonic would be a cheap bandaid for Jets & they know he would probably give them a good hometown discount on an extension too. Not a far off deal to be done for both teams. Trouba is exactly what we would need. Who knows. Varlamov would be an interesting tandem for Ritter, but he would have to come cheap enough.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

May 17 @ 3:32 PM ET
I would be happy to see the Flames make any of these trades:

1. Frolik plus 2020 2nd rounder for Zucker.
2. Brodie to the leafs for Andreas Johnsson or Kasperi Kapanen. The Leafs need D, Gardiner and Hainsey are UFA's and likely gone. They cannot resign them and Marner, and Johnsson and Kapanen. Impossible. Brodie and Gardiner are similar players. Brodie is cheaper, at least for one more year.
3. Stone with the Flames retaining $500k to anyone for a 5th-6th round pick. Clear 3 million off our books.
4. Monahan to Detroit or the Rangers for something really nice coming back (They both have lots to be interested in such a trade). Move Lindholm to center. Gaudreau-Lindholm-Zucker.
5. Jankowski to an Eastern team (Buffalo?) for a 2nd round pick or a high 3rd round pick.
6. Kylington (great upside prospect) + Neal and a 5th rounder to Ottawa or someone who can take his salary, for a 3rd or 4th. Gotta get rid of Neal! He really doesn't fit on this team!
Then you can resign Tkachuk, Rittich, another goalie (McElhinney preferably), Bennett, Mangiapane, and perhaps Hathaway, or give his spot to Lazar for cheaper or someone else signed.

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Zucker
Tkachuk-Backlund-Mangiapane/Johnsson
Bennett-Ryan-one of above
Dube-Quine (resigned) or Lazar, or someone new- 2 open spots
Gio-Andersson
Ham-Han
Valimaki-Fantenburg (if resigned) or Jordie Benn, or ?

- quinneroma

You're nuts! Why trade a consistent 30 goal scorer???? & the return was so good that I dont see that return in your projected line up. A 3rd for Janko?????? After all these years of developing him???? Give away Kyllington to dump Neal for a mid round pick???/Yikes. The rain must affecting your perception & judgement.
Scooby Doo
Calgary Flames
Location: NWT
Joined: 04.26.2019

May 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
Very "Edmontonian" type trades
quinneroma
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.26.2015

May 17 @ 4:37 PM ET
Nuts to trade a 30 goal scorer who disappears down the stretch and is useless in the playoffs!? Plus, what if the return was excellent? It's just a suggestion. The goal is to get good players who can perform when it matters.

Jankowski is nothing more than a mediocre 3-4C. Very expendable. Neal is killing this team's ability to get better by having cap space and flexibility, and doesn't even deserve a spot on our 3rd line. We have to get rid of him. Unfortunately it costs to erase a mistake.
hotshotbeer
Calgary Flames
Location: Gods Country, AB
Joined: 05.14.2019

May 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
What comes back in the Monahan trade??
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

May 17 @ 5:09 PM ET
Nuts to trade a 30 goal scorer who disappears down the stretch and is useless in the playoffs!? Plus, what if the return was excellent? It's just a suggestion. The goal is to get good players who can perform when it matters.

Jankowski is nothing more than a mediocre 3-4C. Very expendable. Neal is killing this team's ability to get better by having cap space and flexibility, and doesn't even deserve a spot on our 3rd line. We have to get rid of him. Unfortunately it costs to erase a mistake.

- quinneroma


In 20 career playoff games, Monahan has 8 goals which is about his average production of 30 goals per year in the regular season. I understand he wasn't great in the playoffs this year but apparently, he had broken thumb. I'd definitely keep him unless it's a legit no. 1 centre coming back.

I think they can get more for Janko, perhaps a mid/late first rounder. Any later than that, and I don't see the point. Agree on trading Kylington to get rid of Neal
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 17 @ 5:17 PM ET
What comes back in the Monahan trade??
- hotshotbeer


IMO, Tre's asks start with the following:

Detroit - Zadina or Veleno+

New York: Lias Andersson

You just cannot deal a #1 centre and not get a top tier player/prospect in return. Any less would be a failure of massive proportions.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 17 @ 5:19 PM ET
You're nuts! Why trade a consistent 30 goal scorer???? & the return was so good that I dont see that return in your projected line up. A 3rd for Janko?????? After all these years of developing him???? Give away Kyllington to dump Neal for a mid round pick???/Yikes. The rain must affecting your perception & judgement.
- Kevin R


I'd be fine moving Kylington to get rid of Neal, I think the Flames have an interesting spot in the draft this year and they don't "need" Kylington moving forward, though we'd all prefer to keep him. Neal's contract is just bad and you are going to have to move an enticing piece to convince someone to take him on... unless you're taking a bad deal in return.

rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 17 @ 5:26 PM ET
In 20 career playoff games, Monahan has 8 goals which is about his average production of 30 goals per year in the regular season. I understand he wasn't great in the playoffs this year but apparently, he had broken thumb. I'd definitely keep him unless it's a legit no. 1 centre coming back.

I think they can get more for Janko, perhaps a mid/late first rounder. Any later than that, and I don't see the point. Agree on trading Kylington to get rid of Neal

- tincup


It's been discussed ad nauseum since the 1st round ended, but the entire team was a steaming pile of garbage after game 1. Just bad! And yeah, you count on your top guys to produce when it matters. The issue is that the entire first line disappeared, but I don't think that's any more Mony's fault than it is Johnny or Lindholm.
quinneroma
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.26.2015

May 17 @ 5:47 PM ET
In response to getting a legit #1 C back for Monny... Is Monahan a Number one Center? Go up and down the NHL rosters and see how many teams have a worse #1 C than Monahan? Minnesota, Anaheim and Arizona are the only ones in my mind. Or who you would feel comfortable with matching Monahan up against in a 7 game series? Because in my opinion there are very few teams that Monahan can win that matchup against. His compete level, physicality, energy, speed, corner/board work are all lacking to win.
I think we trade him for an elite prospect like some of those mentioned above, give Lindholm a shot at #1C with a good all around winger who can skate (like Zucker or Johnsson) to fill in those spots.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

May 17 @ 5:58 PM ET
In response to getting a legit #1 C back for Monny... Is Monahan a Number one Center? Go up and down the NHL rosters and see how many teams have a worse #1 C than Monahan? Minnesota, Anaheim and Arizona are the only ones in my mind. Or who you would feel comfortable with matching Monahan up against in a 7 game series? Because in my opinion there are very few teams that Monahan can win that matchup against. His compete level, physicality, energy, speed, corner/board work are all lacking to win.
I think we trade him for an elite prospect like some of those mentioned above, give Lindholm a shot at #1C with a good all around winger who can skate (like Zucker or Johnsson) to fill in those spots.

- quinneroma


Add the habs to the list above. I bet if Tree offered Mony to Montreal at the draft last year we could have had a 2nd Chucky. Bergeron passed on B Chucky to take a center in Kotkaniemi.

tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

May 17 @ 6:02 PM ET
Add the habs to the list above. I bet if Tree offered Mony to Montreal at the draft last year we could have had a 2nd Chucky. Bergeron passed on B Chucky to take a center in Kotkaniemi.
- DEDDIE


I doubt Ottawa would hang up the phone ! Monahan was 12th in centre scoring. So he's a no. 1 centre. Debateable where on the list he is, but probably around 20th ?
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

May 17 @ 6:44 PM ET
I doubt Ottawa would hang up the phone ! Monahan was 12th in centre scoring. So he's a no. 1 centre. Debateable where on the list he is, but probably around 20th ?
- tincup


The problem here is the Sens have nothing to offer in return except B Chucky, Chabot or next years first and I cant see them moving any of those assets.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

May 17 @ 8:11 PM ET
In 20 career playoff games, Monahan has 8 goals which is about his average production of 30 goals per year in the regular season.
- tincup


That doesn't really tell the whole story. 4 of those goals were in the Anaheim series 2 years ago and were all on the PP. Sure, give him some credit for finding some open space, but he was invisible for the rest of the series. He was also vastly outplayed this year.
oil_country1404
Edmonton Oilers
Location: lethbridge, AB
Joined: 11.28.2012

May 17 @ 8:14 PM ET
@tin cup-If you think jankowski is getting a 1st rounder either high or low then you are absolutely nuts
mf1313
San Jose Sharks
Location: Lethbridge, AB
Joined: 08.25.2010

May 17 @ 8:15 PM ET
Cld always try and lure Duchene to Cowtown
Duchene
Mony
Backlund
Ryan

Center depth wld b deep and dangerous

Honestly unsure of Calgary's cap situation but keeping mony, trading some D (stone or Brodie), promoting Valimaki (kids going to b stud next year), signing Duchene or Karlsson CLD make this turn around quick
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

May 17 @ 8:19 PM ET
IMO, Tre's asks start with the following:

Detroit - Zadina or Veleno+

New York: Lias Andersson

You just cannot deal a #1 centre and not get a top tier player/prospect in return. Any less would be a failure of massive proportions.

- rmull905




Fck off
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 17 @ 8:35 PM ET


Fck off

- fry


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tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

May 17 @ 8:53 PM ET
@tin cup-If you think jankowski is getting a 1st rounder either high or low then you are absolutely nuts
- oil_country1404


I saw a sportsnet redraft of the 2012 draft and they had him at 21st (or a few spots later, can't remember) again. Now he's entering his prime and he's on a good contract for another year. For a team that needs help now down the middle, he's worth a mid to late 1st...probably late though.
oil_country1404
Edmonton Oilers
Location: lethbridge, AB
Joined: 11.28.2012

May 17 @ 10:40 PM ET
I saw a sportsnet redraft of the 2012 draft and they had him at 21st (or a few spots later, can't remember) again. Now he's entering his prime and he's on a good contract for another year. For a team that needs help now down the middle, he's worth a mid to late 1st...probably late though.
- tincup

The 2012 draft was a very weak draft. That is not saying alot if he would move up a few spots. I really dont see any team paying more than a 3rd rounder for him maybe a late 2nd
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