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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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What would be acceptable from Rangers for Trouba?
I'm assuming Kreider
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don't think the Jets need Krieder, we are stacked on the wings, need center and D
if its the Rangers how about one of Howden or Anderson, our 20th overall back and one of Hajek or Lindgren.
this will seem like a lot from you guys but it doesn't bring us a player who can contribute right away playing top minutes, but Krieder makes no sense |
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Trouba for the 6th + ?! Lol wow talk about overvaluing your players ...why don’t you just talk to jersey maybe you can get the top pick for Trouba and a 4th lol wow |
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I think,
- no matter what the trade is 50/50 will love/hate it!!
- since Chevy is a vault it will probably be something no one saw coming
what I personally hope for but highly doubt the opposing fans of these teams would agree with;
from Philly, Ghost or Myers and their first rounder
from Florida, Trocheck plus a 2nd ( although I see Trocheck as someone Fla will not part with )
From NJ, Sverson, 2nd rounder, McLeod, note ( I could imagine also flipping Little, if he waives his NMC for Zajac ) this works for us as, Zajac has 2 years left where Little has 5
Detroit, Rasmuusen or AA plus their first rounder and lesser D prospect |
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Trouba for the 6th + ?! Lol wow talk about overvaluing your players ...why don’t you just talk to jersey maybe you can get the top pick for Trouba and a 4th lol wow - GoFunkYourself
its not surprising that an Oilers fan chimes in with comments of over valuing, sadly you guys have had to learn the hard way that your players are not worth nearly what you had thought. hopefully I don't have to learn as you. I don't wish that on anyone
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Really? The only thing any oilers fans have had is GMs that undervalue their players lol incompetent to say the least . I like Trouba but for this guy to suggest he’s worth 6 overall plus is ridiculous admit it. |
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Really? The only thing any oilers fans have had is GMs that undervalue their players lol incompetent to say the least . I like Trouba but for this guy to suggest he’s worth 6 overall plus is ridiculous admit it. - GoFunkYourself
I see your point but it depends on the draft, this draft has a 1-2 then a drop. there is no Tkachuk getting picked at 6th overall. Cory Schneider ( a solid promising back up goalie ) got traded straight up for the 10th overall one year, he was a back up!
Trouba is a 25 year old top pair, right shot D coming off a 50 point season. he has been in the top 20 D in NHL for 5v5 points per minute 3 years in row. he is no slouch.
I also think the Jets return hinges on if he signs an extension with the team acquiring him right away or not. so with an extension, 6th overall plus seems fair, without extension it does not. |
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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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Today @ 10:37 PM ET
Trouba for the 6th + ?! Lol wow talk about overvaluing your players ...why don’t you just talk to jersey maybe you can get the top pick for Trouba and a 4th lol wow
not sure if you are trolling but I will assume you are either not aware of Trouba's value or are overvaluing a 6th overall pick.
As an RFA Trouba will get somewhere around 7.5m/season. If this were done on an offer sheet that means the Jets would receive as compensation two 1sts, a second and a 3rd round pick in compensation. If signed for 7.3 (not likely) it would be one 1st, second and 3rd. And honestly that would hurt the Jets for the next season or 2 unless more trades were completed for an NHL ready player (not an Oiler ready player).
He is certainly worth a 6th + an established player ready to contribute in 2019/20 |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Peter Tessier: Jets must consider many options with Trouba
Trading Trouba is one thing but finding the right partner and getting the right return to reshape the Jets is a whole other concern. - Peter.Tessier
Hey Peter. Curious. Many Flames fans were a little taken back when Hamonic came in 11th on the TSN trade bait. He has 1 more year at a phenomenal cap, is RH & had a pretty good year paired with Hanifin on the 2nd pairing. We know he wants to be Western Canada & ideally Jets I bet would be his first choice. We thought it would be Brodie on that Trade Bait list & he plays his best on the right side but I know he's a LHS. Knowing Hamonic, we thought he really likes Calgary & Im sure he does & expect he will give a real hometown discount to extend after next year. Im sure he would do that with the Jets too. You think there is a Hamonic for Trouba trade fit here? Solves a problem for you & I dont know if Trouba would sign long term with us but Treliving can be pretty convincing. We'd have a year to find out. Is there a match here? Otherwise I dont see Hamonic going anywhere, it'll be Brodie being traded. |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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not sure if you are trolling but I will assume you are either not aware of Trouba's value or are overvaluing a 6th overall pick.
As an RFA Trouba will get somewhere around 7.5m/season. If this were done on an offer sheet that means the Jets would receive as compensation two 1sts, a second and a 3rd round pick in compensation. If signed for 7.3 (not likely) it would be one 1st, second and 3rd. And honestly that would hurt the Jets for the next season or 2 unless more trades were completed for an NHL ready player (not an Oiler ready player).
He is certainly worth a 6th + an established player ready to contribute in 2019/20 - 2.0
Dougie Hamilton got a 1st & two 2nd's. 1st 2nd & 3rd wouldnt be bad compensation seeing you are probably going to lose him next year. That would be all you get right up to an offer sheet of $8.54 mill An unsigned RFA with 1 year left like Trouba is going to be hard to max out your value. |
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bgainesDM
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.09.2015
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Has anyone thought of Trouba on a sign-and-trade for RNH? WPG finally gets a 2C and Edmonton finally solidifies their top 4 D. |
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bgainesDM
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.09.2015
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Also, just wondering, any update on whether or not Vesalainin makes the team full-time next year? |
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jimbro83
New York Rangers |
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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don't think the Jets need Krieder, we are stacked on the wings, need center and D
if its the Rangers how about one of Howden or Anderson, our 20th overall back and one of Hajek or Lindgren.
this will seem like a lot from you guys but it doesn't bring us a player who can contribute right away playing top minutes, but Krieder makes no sense - Ross77
I think the 20th pick, Andersson and Hajek is decent deal
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Today @ 1:26 AM ET
Has anyone thought of Trouba on a sign-and-trade for RNH? WPG finally gets a 2C and Edmonton finally solidifies their top 4 D. bgainesDM
Trouba doesn't want to play in Canada. I think every Wpg Jet would be shocked if he landed on another Cdn team. |
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Trouba doesn't want to play in Canada. I think every Wpg Jet would be shocked if he landed on another Cdn team. - CharlieDog
More interested in a player(s) coming back in any Trouba deal - the draft pick would be a bonus. The player(s) are the priority. Player hopefully a young D-man or C.
Philly, Detroit and Florida would be my best bets for any deal. Toronto?
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I think,
- no matter what the trade is 50/50 will love/hate it!!
- since Chevy is a vault it will probably be something no one saw coming
what I personally hope for but highly doubt the opposing fans of these teams would agree with;
from Philly, Ghost or Myers and their first rounder
from Florida, Trocheck plus a 2nd ( although I see Trocheck as someone Fla will not part with )
From NJ, Sverson, 2nd rounder, McLeod, note ( I could imagine also flipping Little, if he waives his NMC for Zajac ) this works for us as, Zajac has 2 years left where Little has 5
Detroit, Rasmuusen or AA plus their first rounder and lesser D prospect - Ross77
I'd be hesitant to trade Ghost. He seems to be very inconsistent, and never strings together two bad years or two good years. Prior to this season, he was actually playing quality defense along with his offense, and he apparently had a knee issue all year long. If I had to bet, I'd say he has a bounce back year.
I know you have to give to get, and I'm a biased Ghost lover...but I'm also a Trouba fan. I would do Ghost straight up for Trouba if the Flyers can negotiate with Trouba prior to the trade, but I wouldn't include 11th overall as well, it would be a straight 1-for-1. |
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jjonah
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Location: winnipeg, MB Joined: 03.25.2013
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Trouba on a sign and trade or agrees to sign scenario will bring back a package that will be significant.
LA Kings have the 5th overall pick and could be an attractive partner.
As for EDM and CLG fans hoping...... he will not be playing on Canada again |
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I'd be hesitant to trade Ghost. He seems to be very inconsistent, and never strings together two bad years or two good years. Prior to this season, he was actually playing quality defense along with his offense, and he apparently had a knee issue all year long. If I had to bet, I'd say he has a bounce back year.
I know you have to give to get, and I'm a biased Ghost lover...but I'm also a Trouba fan. I would do Ghost straight up for Trouba if the Flyers can negotiate with Trouba prior to the trade, but I wouldn't include 11th overall as well, it would be a straight 1-for-1. - jmatchett383
I think 1 for 1 is wishful thinking.
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Players like Trouba don't come on the market very often. He is wanted by at least 6 teams and each one doesn't want him going to another team almost as much as they want him. This alone will boost his worth and Chevy will play one offer aginst another one to do just this. I think the two top contenders are Philly and Florida. Could Philly part with Patrick and a #1 pick. Florida would part with a top forward and #1 pick as they can score but can't defend. One thing for sure he isn't going to come cheap. |
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"The answer of that question really depends because it's unclear what kind of hockey team the Jets are trying to build after last season, particularly the second half and the playoffs. Does Ghost fit the vision that Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff has for his team?"
Pistol Pete - this statement is so key ... what is the team that Chevy wants to continue to build - given the moving pieces ? ... what's the objective ?'
That will guide the movement ... the trade(s), the desire to obtain a top 10 draft choice, etc ... put that into the blender
If Detroit is a higher potential destination fro Troubs - what about Andreas Athanasiou ? ... there's the 2C ... 30 goals last year on a sh_t team, one more year at $3m and only RFA after ... how bout this:
Troubs + Perrault + Dano FOR Athanasiou + 6th pick 2019
Hahahahahahahha .... 'Dano' ... bwaaahahahahahah !
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hawk35
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: NF Joined: 08.26.2009
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Trouba doesn't want to play in Canada. I think every Wpg Jet would be shocked if he landed on another Cdn team. - CharlieDog
But....but....Toronto fans said he was going there. Straight up for Nylander. Ain't that so???? |
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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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Players like Trouba don't come on the market very often. He is wanted by at least 6 teams and each one doesn't want him going to another team almost as much as they want him. This alone will boost his worth and Chevy will play one offer aginst another one to do just this. I think the two top contenders are Philly and Florida. Could Philly part with Patrick and a #1 pick. Florida would part with a top forward and #1 pick as they can score but can't defend. One thing for sure he isn't going to come cheap. - islansjet
neh eh |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I think 1 for 1 is wishful thinking. - CharlieDog
Maybe. If so, then I'd hold onto Ghost. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Players like Trouba don't come on the market very often. He is wanted by at least 6 teams and each one doesn't want him going to another team almost as much as they want him. This alone will boost his worth and Chevy will play one offer aginst another one to do just this. I think the two top contenders are Philly and Florida. Could Philly part with Patrick and a #1 pick. Florida would part with a top forward and #1 pick as they can score but can't defend. One thing for sure he isn't going to come cheap. - islansjet
Erik Karlsson (granted, older and 1 year away from UFA status) is arguably the best offensive defenseman since Paul Coffey (or Orr, depending on how you look at it). When he was traded last offseason, the return was a bottom-6 forward, a bottom-4 defenseman, a late 1st, and a late 2nd. Now, I like Trouba a lot and think he's a legit top-pair RHD. But if you think he'll get a better return than Erik Karlsson, even with the age and one year away from UFA status, I would disagree. |
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