I don't know Nelson enough as a player to opine on the value of his contract, but I feel pretty confident there are two people with the Habs who are having opposite reactions to this contract at the moment. Bergevin is all smiles, while Gallagher is...not (or shouldn't be).

I know they are not the same position (centre/wing) but they have comparable numbers and Gallagher is a far less expensive proposition.

But good for Brock Nelson. I'm sure he's a happy camper today (and every day for the next little while).
- Ovation

Cant compare players when deals are signed bc Gally signed his a few yrs ago, we both know Gally's production has gone up and if he was an impending UFA, his price tag would be over $6m

Every team over pays their players. With the current CBA and Cap in NHL teams either have to overpay their own players a bit or overpay for FAs/UFAs.

Might as well keep your own players at a bit of an overpayment when you know what you are getting from a guy who is already settled in w/ the team, rather than getting a FA that you don't know how he will transition on/off the ice in a new city/team.

I think Zuuc is the only guy in the past few years who gave his team a hometown discount a few years back in NYR.

Not a great deal but fair deal for both sides...and for a solid 2nd line CENTER, it had to be done.

AND.....................Tanner IS an idiot! Nothing new on that front

I mean I am not the biggest fan of Nelson like everyone knows but the deal is fair. Considering if he went to the open market some team would of def highly over paid for him
- kasperrko

It's probably more than he's worth in a vacuum, but the reality that is that people think the world exists in a vacuum.

Market price is a real, live thing and the FACT is that the Islanders are not particularly high on most UFA's list of destinations. Which means they're probably not going to land Duchene and, on the outside chance that he wants to be here, if they sign Kevin Hayes they would surely pay more than $6M and give more term for a very similar (slightly better and similarly aged) player.

Duchene and Hayes are the only UFA's out there that would represent an upgrade at the position for the Islanders and to put all your eggs in two baskets is a far worse managerial decision than overpaying a little bit for Brock Nelson.

Brock should have fired his agent and hired Lucic's. He could've gotten at least $7.5m a year that way

For less money the Coyotes locked up Schmaltz for a year longer and he is 23. He has the same career high in points as Nelson. Also, how does the sound of laughter start with a "b"? I find this highly confusing.
- James_Tanner

This was a major focus from the comment? Ok now I know you and MJL are the same person.

Tanner hates the deal. Therefore, it is objectively genius. Good job Lou!

For less money the Coyotes locked up Schmaltz for a year longer and he is 23. He has the same career high in points as Nelson. Also, how does the sound of laughter start with a "b"? I find this highly confusing.
- James_Tanner

Yeah Tanner you're not quite getting the point.

Schmaltz was coming off an ELC deal with very little leverage. The 52-point season that you are excited about came with an unsustainable 17.8% shooting percentage. I guess playing with Kane, DeBrincat, Toews, Hossa helps pad the stats a little. Going from an ELC deal to $5.85M x 7 years is a pretty big leap of faith. Most of these are RFA years that Chayka could have had for much, much less.

Nelson is a UFA, with full leverage to entertain offers from 30 other teams. In the last 5 years he has missed 1 hockey game. His goal totals have been 20,26, 20,19,25. Pretty consistent. His shooting percentage has also been pretty consistent. His point totals have been 42,40,45,35,53. Pretty consistent as well. The jump to 53 was helped by getting more ice-time this season, up from about 15 minutes to 18 minutes.

So before you compare contracts, understand how different these dynamics are. One guy is coming off an ELC with almost no leverage and a short track record. The other is a UFA who has been a pretty consistent performer. To call Chayka a genius and Lou the worst at his profession says a lot about your knowledge...

James Tanner, an idiot: Brock Nelson's deal is terrible

Me, a veritable genius: Brock Nelson has scored more 5v5 goals over the last three seasons than Forsberg, Eberle, Pacioretty, and Palmieri and had more 5v5 points last season than Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Drouin, E. Staal, and Hischier
- eichiefs9

You do know by now Tanner only uses the stat line when it is useful in some dumb
way to the point he is trying to make. Your explanation of the difference between
being a UFA as opposed to being a RFA is also right on the money. Stop making sense.
Tanner only writes complete dribble. You know only the finesse little speed players have any value. You don't want any big, determined, forceful players with talent.
Lets see what Hayes gets and compare. This deal isn't great but Nelson was a force
during the playoffs and replacing him would have cost just as much if not more.
Tanner probably would advise replacing him with Nick Petan. Now there is a player.

that poem doesn't even rhyme.

Meh,like someone said yesterday,6million is the new 5 million...Prices have gone up.

that poem doesn't even rhyme.
- Richardflair

Sorry, I don't know why all my posts look like this. It's something with this computer

Sorry, I don't know why all my posts look like this. It's something with this computer
- johnnypie

i was just bustin yer bawls.

You do know by now Tanner only uses the stat line when it is useful in some dumb
way to the point he is trying to make. Your explanation of the difference between
being a UFA as opposed to being a RFA is also right on the money. Stop making sense.
Tanner only writes complete dribble. You know only the finesse little speed players have any value. You don't want any big, determined, forceful players with talent.
Lets see what Hayes gets and compare. This deal isn't great but Nelson was a force
during the playoffs and replacing him would have cost just as much if not more.
Tanner probably would advise replacing him with Nick Petan. Now there is a player.
- johnnypie

Makes me hope Hayes signs with Arizona just so we can see the Tan-Man do mental gymnastics in real-time

For less money the Coyotes locked up Schmaltz for a year longer and he is 23. He has the same career high in points as Nelson. Also, how does the sound of laughter start with a "b"? I find this highly confusing.
- James_Tanner

You are confused Jim, because you follow numbers and don't WATCH hockey! If you did you would see a Nylander and Schmaltz that are afraid of their own shadows, play perimeter hockey and unless playing in a run and gun, no contact game.....are really quite useless, comparative to the money they are being paid. Nelson is no superstar...but, I would take him and his MUCH better two way game over either Nylander or Schmaltz.

Let's see how long the Leafs tolerate Nylander and his soft play going forward, he may even be gone before October. And Schmaltz....be ready for another 40 game, 30 point year, maybe 8 goals. Book it!!!

Watch a game fella.....and maybe that would open up your closed mind.

Nylander’s contract is bad also.

Nylander’s contract is bad also.
- Newgod77

But the World's performance says different, LOL

Whoa, Tanner is in a mood today, all of his logical fallacies and biases are turned up to 11.

Cant compare players when deals are signed bc Gally signed his a few yrs ago, we both know Gally's production has gone up and if he was an impending UFA, his price tag would be over $6m
- Hell_Bent

I know. I was mostly thinking of it in terms of Bergevin being happy he’s got a bargain (especially having bought a chunk of prime UFA years from Gallagher). I’m sure Gallagher will cash in on his next deal.

Guess the price for Anders Lee just went up though.

I see you're still having autistic fits of rage over the Nylander deal, an irrelevant comparison unless a 22yo RFA winger is suddenly comparable to a 27yo UFA center
- eichiefs9

That 22 year old RFA has 2 61 point season sin only 2 full seasons.

Freaking out several times about it because his feeble mind couldn't distinguish the difference between a couple of people criticizing the Nylander deal and everybody criticizing the Nylander deal
- eichiefs9

LOL are you really claiming there was 2 people criticizing it?

Nylander’s contract is bad also.
- Newgod77

Get back to me next season.

That 22 year old RFA has 2 61 point season sin only 2 full seasons.
- RogerRoeper

I’m really beginning to think you get off on this topic.

That 22 year old RFA has 2 61 point season sin only 2 full seasons.
- RogerRoeper

The part you keep ignoring is that Willy was a RFA which is advantage team big time.
Dubas held all the cards. A UFA player holds all the cards. Dubas let Nylander set the
table. He hurt the team with his holdout and got the money he wanted. Even now
he is playing Dubas with the whole he promised he would never trade me B.S.
That is called a no trade CONTRACT Willy boy. You tell me if any of the rumored trades
were real what makes the Leafs a better team, having Parayko or Pesce etc or paying
and keeping Nylander ? So its not just the money that makes it debatable.

Nelson on the other hand has all the cards and Lou has to weigh what is it going to
cost in money and possible assets to replace him. He knows what he has so he pays
a little more.

Good Lord, Tanner. Your takes are brutal

How is Tanner still considered a hockey "expert?" He has the hockey IQ of a New Zealander. My apology to all New Zealanders! He has proven over and over how inept he is at evaluating players, coaches, teams, and now GM's. I can understand keeping him around for comic relief, but at least state somewhere that his posts should be considered farcical or that you let him write for you as part of your Diversity Hiring for people with Learning Disabilities. My apology to people with learning disabilities!