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Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

May 24 @ 11:04 AM ET
Ben Shelley: Fair Deal for Nelson
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

May 24 @ 11:12 AM ET
great write up Ben... I agree with pretty much all you said although Lee is probably going to get 7 mill a year based on his goals last few years and Captain.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 24 @ 11:20 AM ET
Nice work Ben! I think it's a fair contract. I'm a fan of shorter contracts but you really cannot complain much on this one. I'm hoping Lee does not get 7 Mill. I really like Lee but 7 Mill seems a heck of a lot for Lee.
Hell_Bent
New York Islanders
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NY
Joined: 05.06.2019

May 24 @ 11:23 AM ET
With how FA's get overpaid and team had NO C depth, very fair deal knowing that Nelly had his best & consistent season under Trotz, now both will be here for a while
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
IT WAS A FAIR DEAL OKAY?!
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

May 24 @ 11:40 AM ET
When I noticed he had signed I went to cap friendly to get the numbers. 6M ???? There you go again Lou
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 24 @ 11:43 AM ET
When I noticed he had signed I went to cap friendly to get the numbers. 6M ???? There you go again Lou
- Hardbalz

Thank you, Hardbalz
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 24 @ 11:44 AM ET
Thank you, Hardbalz
- eichiefs9

chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

May 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
I could live with 5 years at the same 36 for Lee.
ziggy_skalica
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 24 @ 12:07 PM ET
Any suggestions which player contract you can compare Brock's to? A player that has signed within the past year or so.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 24 @ 12:13 PM ET
Any suggestions which player contract you can compare Brock's to? A player that has signed within the past year or so.
- ziggy_skalica

Tedge77
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.17.2019

May 24 @ 12:24 PM ET
He probably would have gotten more on the open market.
ziggy_skalica
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 24 @ 12:34 PM ET

- eichiefs9


Thanks
Hell_Bent
New York Islanders
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NY
Joined: 05.06.2019

May 24 @ 12:36 PM ET

- eichiefs9




Good comparison is Backland/Henrique/Little

Not Turris
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

May 24 @ 1:00 PM ET
the deal is works well with keeping nelson as #2 center for the next 3-4 years and than drops to #3 center in the remaining years. so the isles have 3 years to develop a #2 center in BP who will come in at a cheap cap hit
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

May 24 @ 1:03 PM ET
5 million for me was the right number. I’m not big on guys who their career years on the last year of their contract. Nelson is an average 2nd line player. This is a bit of an overpayment. Bailey got less last year
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 24 @ 2:15 PM ET
Probably a million more per year over payment but necessary for shorter term.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 24 @ 2:26 PM ET
5 million for me was the right number. I’m not big on guys who their career years on the last year of their contract. Nelson is an average 2nd line player. This is a bit of an overpayment. Bailey got less last year
- BringNYIhome


Sure, I get that...but he's coming off a one-year deal, so the last year is also the first year! The way I see it, Lou gave Nelson a one-year "prove it and show me what you're worth" contract. Nelson went out and earned what he got. I'd be good with this one even if center wasn't a position of desperate need for the Isles. Given that he probably could have squeezed them for a little more since there's no one to replace him, I think the Isles got this one kind of cheap.
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

May 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
great write up Ben... I agree with pretty much all you said although Lee is probably going to get 7 mill a year based on his goals last few years and Captain.
- niteislander


Thanks!

Wouldn't be surprised to see $7M for Lee either, I just think he may have a hard time arguing he's worth $1M more than Nelson as a winger who is a year older. Like you said though, obviously goal scoring is a factor too, so who knows.
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

May 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
Nice work Ben! I think it's a fair contract. I'm a fan of shorter contracts but you really cannot complain much on this one. I'm hoping Lee does not get 7 Mill. I really like Lee but 7 Mill seems a heck of a lot for Lee.
- ses111


Thank you!

Yeah, I suppose that's the price to pay for keeping it at a six-year term. I'd guess Lee's AAV really depends on the term as well. If it's only a five or six-year deal, probably up around $7M but if it's extended for longer the AAV likely drops into the 6's.
Ben Shelley
Joined: 03.12.2019

May 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
He probably would have gotten more on the open market.
- Tedge77


At the very least, Nelson's camp probably used that as an argument in negotiations to drive the price up, whether it's true or not.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 24 @ 4:09 PM ET
Thank you!

Yeah, I suppose that's the price to pay for keeping it at a six-year term. I'd guess Lee's AAV really depends on the term as well. If it's only a five or six-year deal, probably up around $7M but if it's extended for longer the AAV likely drops into the 6's.

- Ben Shelley


Sure I would love 4 years deals for Nelson and Lee but that's not happening.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 24 @ 4:31 PM ET
Nice write up Ben.

Nelson’s deal is a great contract for both player and team.



Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 24 @ 5:29 PM ET
Nice write up Ben.

Nelson’s deal is a great contract for both player and team.

- nyisles7

It’s turreble fiar Lou.
uofcguy
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.18.2019

May 24 @ 6:01 PM ET
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