Fixed that up for you there chum.
- DrunkenCanuck

1) Some fans are stupid and want to trade him because he had a bad season

2) Others like me want to trade him because the Flyers D is jammed up. Flyers have Gudas, Provorov, Hagg, Morin, Myers, Sanheim, Ghost, Freidman. Defense is a surplus. Teams deal their Surplus to improve their team

Thats 8 Dmen for 6 slots. Fans wanted to get Myers and Morin in all season but we had to wait until when the Flyers were pretty much out of the playoff picture. It makes the most sense to trade one of the more established guys for a piece to improve the team up front.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Defense is not a surplus and it is ridiculous to say that it is.

Defense is not a surplus and it is ridiculous to say that it is.
- MJL

Fans always confuse quantity with quality.

Defense is not a surplus and it is ridiculous to say that it is.
- MJL

How is that not a surplus? Friedman could possibly stay down in the AHL but the rest of them are all Roster Dman and I also happened to leave your Buddy AMac you you believe to be a good defenceman to their is technically 9 Roster Dman on the team AND Fletcher wants to add a Top 4 Veteran Dman which would put us at 10 Dmen.

Provorov and Sanheim are the top 2 Dmen
Myers, Gudas, Ghost and TBA Vet Dman are Top 4 Dmen
Hagg, AMac, Friedman are Top 6 Dmen

Morin is a top 4 Dman but he has played limited time due to injuries.

Surplus - More of something that is need. This is exactly the definition of a Surplus

if leafs want a player like 'ghost' they could just resign gardiner who is aa good offensively and similar lack of defebsive awareness.
ghost is nothing special
- MaximusAurelius

Smoke crack much?

Smoke crack much?
- meduser

In your opinion who is a better comparable for Ghost?

In your opinion who is a better comparable for Ghost?
- Kinger34

Someone whos 2 years younger, hit 60 point mark and is signed for 5 years at 4.5 mill. It is laughable they you think you could sign Gardiner anyways. You barely have the cap room to sign Marner let alone Kapanen, Johnson and Gardiner.

Someone whos 2 years younger, hit 60 point mark and is signed for 5 years at 4.5 mill. It is laughable they you think you could sign Gardiner anyways. You barely have the cap room to sign Marner let alone Kapanen, Johnson and Gardiner.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Who's they....I would say he has played his last game as a Leaf..

Who's they....I would say he has played his last game as a Leaf..
- nbboy

The people saying the Leafs can just sign Gardiner if they wanted someone like Ghost. Leafs cant sign him, even if they wanted to. He will be overpaid like most FAs do

If I'm moving Ghost to the Leafs, the only player I'm interested in is Marner.

Obviously, Ghost would be a starting point.
- KGBflyers10

You must be in La La Land

if leafs want a player like 'ghost' they could just resign gardiner who is aa good offensively and similar lack of defebsive awareness.
ghost is nothing special
- MaximusAurelius

Totally agree

Leafs won't go after Gostisbehere.
- LeafGuy89

Totally agree

You have no choice. Marner is the ONLY player he's interested in. So let it be written. So let it be done.
- gergeswillems

we let you know that you don't know what you are talking about

I mean I'm also interested in Nylander and Kapanan, but if I'm moving Ghost--I want a solidified winger already.

I know reading comprehension is hard for Rangers fans, so I'll repeat--when talking about Marner--Ghost is going to be the starting point for trade discussions which would probably include Ratcliffe, Frost, Konecny, plus draft picks.
- KGBflyers10

you can keep Ghost

- Aetherial

not bloody likely

I'd rather get RNH for Ghost then get Kapanen or overpay for Will Ny the Holdout Guy.

Maybe the Islanders can work on a deal with the Leafs and save the Flyers from making a bad deal.
- Glak18

you can keep Ghost...not that great anyway

Leaf fans are quick to forget:

1) Ghosts career high in points in higher than Gardiner
2) Ghost has out produced gardiner 3 out of 4 years since Ghost came into the NHL
3) Ghost is 2 years younger
4) Ghost is signed for 5 years at 4.5 mill. How much is Gardiner going to get? I can tell you he is likely going to get overpaid. Most players are nowadays
5) Flyer fans arent trading him because he is bad, he under-performed last season but the flyers are rich in D prospects. You dont trade your best D and you cant trade your worst D and expect to get something good back. Ghost is an elite offensive Dman that has been average in his own zone. We arent going to trade him for nothing, nor do we want to get rid of him. It is just the nature of the business, you gotta give to get and the Flyers need more speed and skill on forward

I would be fine with taking Kapanen or Nylander for Ghost. Both forwards should be good wingers but will be in the 60-70 point range. I dont think they will ever hit a point per game.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Ghost is good but not wrth a lot

we let you know that you don't know what you are talking about
- Leafcup

You're dumb.

So the penguins trade Kessel/Johnson for zucker/Rask to save a whopping $500k in cap space. This somehow magically lets them now have cap space for PK Subban and his $9 mil salary. This is some brilliant hard researched journalism.

Let’s also ignore the fact that the pens literally have nothing of value to get Subban. Hornqvist, Maatta, and a 1st?

How is that not a surplus? Friedman could possibly stay down in the AHL but the rest of them are all Roster Dman and I also happened to leave your Buddy AMac you you believe to be a good defenceman to their is technically 9 Roster Dman on the team AND Fletcher wants to add a Top 4 Veteran Dman which would put us at 10 Dmen.

Provorov and Sanheim are the top 2 Dmen
Myers, Gudas, Ghost and TBA Vet Dman are Top 4 Dmen
Hagg, AMac, Friedman are Top 6 Dmen

Morin is a top 4 Dman but he has played limited time due to injuries.

Surplus - More of something that is need. This is exactly the definition of a Surplus
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Ask yourself if the Flyers have a defense corps that can back a team to contention? Numbers of players doesn't mean you have a surplus. Do they have a legitimate #1 NHL defenseman? Do they have a legitimate top NHL pairing? I think you need to study up on what a surplus is in the game of hockey at a position. As if the position is so stacked, that we have a surplus that we don't need. Laughable.

Totally agree
- Leafcup

Please explain how the Leafs are going to sign Gardiner? Leafs have 8 Mill in Cap space and they need to sign

Marner
Johnsson
Kapanen
Gardiner
and a 7th Dman

Ask yourself if the Flyers have a defense corps that can back a team to contention? Numbers of players doesn't mean you have a surplus. Do they have a legitimate #1 NHL defenseman? Do they have a legitimate top NHL pairing? I think you need to study up on what a surplus is in the game of hockey at a position. As if the position is so stacked, that we have a surplus that we don't need. Laughable.
- MJL

I answered this in the previous post but I guess Ill type it again

Provorov is #1 Dman

Sanheim is a #2 Dman

Myers is a Top 4 Dman

Ghost is a Top 4 Dman

Gudas is a Top 4 Dman

Morin is a Top 6 Dman (I think he's a top 4 but given the lack of NHL game time Im dropping him down a pair)

Hagg is a Top 6 Dman

AMac is a Top 6 Dman

Friedman played well enough in limited time last season to be given a shot at a Top 6 Role

Flyers also want to add a Veteran Top 4 Dman

AMac is likely going to be used as a 7th D or bought out. Ghost is one among 3-5 Dman looking to be on that middle pair and we have some solid bottom pair options. That means we have a SURPLUS of Top 4 Dman. We can afford to move one to fill in a hole elsewhere. Ghost is a guy that has value because he is more established. He is going to get us the best value back which is why he is on the table

I answered this in the previous post but I guess Ill type it again

Provorov is #1 Dman

Sanheim is a #2 Dman

Myers is a Top 4 Dman

Ghost is a Top 4 Dman

Gudas is a Top 4 Dman

Morin is a Top 6 Dman (I think he's a top 4 but given the lack of NHL game time Im dropping him down a pair)

Hagg is a Top 6 Dman

AMac is a Top 6 Dman

Friedman played well enough in limited time last season to be given a shot at a Top 6 Role

Flyers also want to add a Veteran Top 4 Dman

AMac is likely going to be used as a 7th D or bought out. Ghost is one among 3-5 Dman looking to be on that middle pair and we have some solid bottom pair options. That means we have a SURPLUS of Top 4 Dman. We can afford to move one to fill in a hole elsewhere. Ghost is a guy that has value because he is more established. He is going to get us the best value back which is why he is on the table
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Provorov is not yet a legitimate #1 NHL defenseman. Sanheim is not yet a legitimate 1st pair NHL defenseman. Myers has played 21 NHL games. He is not yet a legitimate top 4 NHL defenseman. Gudas is not a player who is going to be a top 4 defenseman on a contending team and he is likely not going to be around when the team reaches contending status. Neither is MacDonald. Haag is a 3rd pair NHL defenseman. We'll see what Morin becomes but he is not a given. The Flyers do not have a surplus of young top 4 NHL defenseman that makes a situation where the Flyers can afford to trade one due to having a surplus. That surplus does not exist.

Why would a team with a surplus of top 4 NHL defenseman want to add another one as you state? LOL

Provorov is not yet a legitimate #1 NHL defenseman. Sanheim is not yet a legitimate 1st pair NHL defenseman. Myers has played 21 NHL games. He is not yet a legitimate top 4 NHL defenseman. Gudas is not a player who is going to be a top 4 defenseman on a contending team and he is likely not going to be around when the team reaches contending status. Neither is MacDonald. Haag is a 3rd pair NHL defenseman. We'll see what Morin becomes but he is not a given. The Flyers do not have a surplus of young top 4 NHL defenseman that makes a situation where the Flyers can afford to trade one due to having a surplus. That surplus does not exist.

Why would a team with a surplus of top 4 NHL defenseman want to add another one as you state? LOL
- MJL

Because Fletcher wants a Vet.Its also funny You have AMac as a Bottom Pair Dman since you seem to think he's good Dman on the Flyers blog

Because Fletcher wants a Vet.Its also funny You have AMac as a Bottom Pair Dman since you seem to think he's good Dman on the Flyers blog
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Fletcher wants a vet defenseman because he knows that the defense is not where you seem to think it is. Your MacDonald comment is asinine. MacDonald is towards the twilight of his career. He filled a need on the team and now there is a natural progression of younger and more talented players taking over. It takes time however for those players to grow and gain experience. That is a process that is still taking place.