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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Lol teams are fearful of Erik Karlsson’s groin |
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I don't think Spezza would be a good or even useful signing. Karlsson would be great to sign at maybe 9 mil per at most but i wouldn't want to sign him to anything more than 6 years.
If Karlsson does get signed though at least it will be nice for the players to have a team captain on the ice again. One thing I admired about Karlsson was he wasn't afraid to give it to his teammates if they let him down so they learn to not screw up on him again. He showed a lot of fire during that 2017 conference finals run. |
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Panzer_IVA
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 01.02.2018
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I wouldn't mind getting Spezza back, just not as a captain. I find he didn't do well (under pressure) when put in the spotlight.
As for Karlsson, wouldn't mind him back either but not at full price especially if he wants full term (7 years). I'd be happy with 5 x $9M, or 7 x $7M.
I wonder if he'll want a front-loaded contract in case of a strike? When is the player's contract agreement set to expire? 2020-21 year? |
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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I wouldn't mind getting Spezza back, just not as a captain. I find he didn't do well (under pressure) when put in the spotlight.
As for Karlsson, wouldn't mind him back either but not at full price especially if he wants full term (7 years). I'd be happy with 5 x $9M, or 7 x $7M.
I wonder if he'll want a front-loaded contract in case of a strike? When is the player's contract agreement set to expire? 2020-21 year? - Panzer_IVA
Im not sure I want Spezza back. I always liked him,but the he's at the tail end of his career. I realize we need to reach the floor, but i wonder if there's a better way to get there/ not have him take a roster spot from someone. |
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riceroni
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: e5, ON Joined: 07.29.2009
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I'd sign Karlsson for 7 years at $10.5M and not look back... he brings more than his salary to the organization... We'd be lucky to have him back... classy person and phenomenal player |
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riceroni
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: e5, ON Joined: 07.29.2009
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I don't think Spezza would be a good or even useful signing. Karlsson would be great to sign at maybe 9 mil per at most but i wouldn't want to sign him to anything more than 6 years.
If Karlsson does get signed though at least it will be nice for the players to have a team captain on the ice again. One thing I admired about Karlsson was he wasn't afraid to give it to his teammates if they let him down so they learn to not screw up on him again. He showed a lot of fire during that 2017 conference finals run. - TDBSenatoR
If he was Canadian or American and called out his teammates that would be considered leadership however since he's European it's considered "me first, problem in the room"... |
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Im not sure I want Spezza back. I always liked him,but the he's at the tail end of his career. I realize we need to reach the floor, but i wonder if there's a better way to get there/ not have him take a roster spot from someone. - david22
who's he going to take a roster spot from?
I'd be happy with Spezza centering our 3rd line, solid veteran presence for the young kids.
have Spezza center a line with Formenton and Batherson.........2 kids with a seasoned vet
I'd certainly prefer him over Smith, Lindberg, or Gibbons |
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I'd sign Karlsson for 7 years at $10.5M and not look back... he brings more than his salary to the organization... We'd be lucky to have him back... classy person and phenomenal player - riceroni
budget teams can't give out contracts like that because they would be totally (frank)ED when it came time to re-sign guys like Chabot, Tkachuk, Brannstrom, etc, etc
it's debatable whether or not Karlsson is worth 10.5 right now, he ABSOLUTELY won't be worth 10.5 in 7 years, hell, probably won't be worth it in 2-3 years.
Signing Karlsson to that deal would be devastating to this team in the future...unless money suddenly is no longer an issue |
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poopstash
Los Angeles Kings |
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Joined: 03.21.2015
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budget teams can't give out contracts like that because they would be totally (frank)ED when it came time to re-sign guys like Chabot, Tkachuk, Brannstrom, etc, etc
it's debatable whether or not Karlsson is worth 10.5 right now, he ABSOLUTELY won't be worth 10.5 in 7 years, hell, probably won't be worth it in 2-3 years.
Signing Karlsson to that deal would be devastating to this team in the future...unless money suddenly is no longer an issue - sensarmy_11
let's be honest though... if Melnyk still owns the Sens by then you're probably going to have issues getting those guys signed for the long haul anyways |
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let's be honest though... if Melnyk still owns the Sens by then you're probably going to have issues getting those guys signed for the long haul anyways - poopstash
fair point........karlsson will never sign here as long as Melnyk owns the team, and if Melnyk doesn't own the team then they are no longer a budget team.
that being said, I still wouldn't sign Karlsson to a max term deal at 10.5.....solely based on his age and injury history |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Jack Capuano😂 - Cptmjl
I don’t understand the laughter from Islanders fans.
This guy coached a Garth Snow constructed team for 7 years and had an overall winning record and 3 playoff appearances.
The guy seems like a (frank)ing miracle worker when you look at it that way |
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jaz258
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa Joined: 02.04.2008
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budget teams can't give out contracts like that because they would be totally (frank)ED when it came time to re-sign guys like Chabot, Tkachuk, Brannstrom, etc, etc
it's debatable whether or not Karlsson is worth 10.5 right now, he ABSOLUTELY won't be worth 10.5 in 7 years, hell, probably won't be worth it in 2-3 years.
Signing Karlsson to that deal would be devastating to this team in the future...unless money suddenly is no longer an issue
Don't agree with this. They have to spend to get to the cap floor, have the money and could sign him as he wanted to be here in the first place. I'd give him 7 years at 9.5 and would not think twice about it. The only thing devastating to this team is not having a superstar. Chabot, Brannstrom and Tkachuk are not superstars, and won't be for a while. |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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Don't agree with this. They have to spend to get to the cap floor, have the money and could sign him as he wanted to be here in the first place. I'd give him 7 years at 9.5 and would not think twice about it. The only thing devastating to this team is not having a superstar. Chabot, Brannstrom and Tkachuk are not superstars, and won't be for a while. - jaz258
Let's get some facts straight -- Erik Karlsson is going to carry a cap hit above 10m (unless he is signed by Dallas, Tampa, or Vegas because of tax circumstances). IF Karlsson resigns with a Canadian team, I would bet the farm that he will get AT LEAST 11m. Lastly, my money is on Karlsson signing with either Tampa OR most likely one of eastern USA |
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who's he going to take a roster spot from?
I'd be happy with Spezza centering our 3rd line, solid veteran presence for the young kids. - sensarmy_11
Brutal. In what world is a 36yo Spezza coming off of a pair of disastrous seasons a preferable centre option in 2019/20 than any of Tierney, White, or Pageau... especially in a more two-way role? For that matter, in what world is Spezza a "solid veteran presence" in any capacity? He was once a highly-skilled player whose offensive production made up for being a defensive liability with a conspicuously limited work ethic. Quite frankly, there's nothing I want to see Spezza teaching any of the team's best young players, other than knowing when to hang up the skates and retire.
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Capuano? By what ive seen on internet he's praised for being pretty good with young players like dj smith so im fine with that.Lets see what it can do before having a more clear opinion about it.
Karlsson...i would take him back any day of the week IF Ceci is moved AND if its not for 7 years at 10/11 millions per year.Karlsson would be much better for young players than spezza even if spezza would be much cheaper.Who better than Karlsson to be mentor of chabot,Brannstrom,wolanin,bernard-docker?
Spezza...he's pretty much done and i dont see that much place for him with likely possible lineup.Tierney,pageau and White are all miiiiiiiles better options at center.On the fourth line? Not sure i want spezza there with his well known defensive liabilities and slowiness.
Im sure there is much better options than him to reach cap floor |
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Brutal. In what world is a 36yo Spezza coming off of a pair of disastrous seasons a preferable centre option in 2019/20 than any of Tierney, White, or Pageau... especially in a more two-way role? For that matter, in what world is Spezza a "solid veteran presence" in any capacity? He was once a highly-skilled player whose offensive production made up for being a defensive liability with a conspicuously limited work ethic. Quite frankly, there's nothing I want to see Spezza teaching any of the team's best young players, other than knowing when to hang up the skates and retire. - khawk
I could not say better |
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Brutal. In what world is a 36yo Spezza coming off of a pair of disastrous seasons a preferable centre option in 2019/20 than any of Tierney, White, or Pageau... especially in a more two-way role? For that matter, in what world is Spezza a "solid veteran presence" in any capacity? He was once a highly-skilled player whose offensive production made up for being a defensive liability with a conspicuously limited work ethic. Quite frankly, there's nothing I want to see Spezza teaching any of the team's best young players, other than knowing when to hang up the skates and retire. - khawk
This team needs vets to help mentor the kids......can’t have a team full of 22 year olds.
But you’re right, why would we want a vet like spezza, who’s been nearly a PPG player over 1000 games, when our young guys can be mentored by incredible vets like smith and boedker.........
You don’t bring spezza back with the expectation that he’ll put up lots of points.....you bring him back on a one year, 1-2 mil deal, to play in the bottom six and help develop the youth on this team. He’s the 2nd most productive forward in the history of this team.....he can help the kids |
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Makes me laugh that Ottawa media takes the bait when it comes Karlsson. The only reason he mentioned Ottawa/Montreal was to pander to his wife.
Has no intention of coming to Ottawa. All the people I talk to that KNOW what Karlsson is say no way Ottawa would even consider bringing him back. The truth of the matter is he is damaged goods, always has been (save 1 year) horrible defensively and as I alluded to: a first class D-bag! |
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Makes me laugh that Ottawa media takes the bait when it comes Karlsson. The only reason he mentioned Ottawa/Montreal was to pander to his wife.
Has no intention of coming to Ottawa. All the people I talk to that KNOW what Karlsson is say no way Ottawa would even consider bringing him back. The truth of the matter is he is damaged goods, always has been (save 1 year) horrible defensively and as I alluded to: a first class D-bag! - JACMAN
I don't disagree with your overall assessment, however I do disagree that he's horrible defensively.....he's not elite in his own end, but he's definitely above average.
as for being a D-bag......I've met him a couple of times and he always seemed nice. arrogant, sure, but what professional athlete isn't.
he won't come back here though, I do agree with that. as long as Melnyk owns the team, no high end UFAs will EVER sign in ottawa |
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jaz258
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa Joined: 02.04.2008
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Makes me laugh that Ottawa media takes the bait when it comes Karlsson. The only reason he mentioned Ottawa/Montreal was to pander to his wife.
That might be the single most misogynistic thing I have read on Hockeybuzz. Wow.
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spazzbot
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Location: Maple Zombie Joined: 02.14.2013
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Maybe we could get Hoff back too.
EK would look good in a Leafs jersey |
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That might be the single most misogynistic thing I have read on Hockeybuzz. Wow. - jaz258
Wow. Really? |
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