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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jun 13 @ 12:13 PM ET
Todd Cordell: On targets for defensive depth and Egor Afanasyev
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:06 PM ET
Todd Cordell: On targets for defensive depth and Egor Afanasyev
- ToddCordellCGY

Cant argue with you on that potential pick. Not sure he'll be there at 26 but I'd be happy too.

Im still scratching my head as to why Tre forked out a 4th for Fantenberg if he doesnt try to resign him. He should be cheap enough, he wasnt flashy but I was satisfied how steady he was. Again, he is a left side D.

Although I do recall Hanifin can play both sides. Be interesting if they try him on the right side next year.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:45 PM ET
Buying out Stone to sign Lovejoy makes zero sense. Good luck convincing the owners that that's a necessary move.

A buyout would only be necessary if Stone won't waive his NTC. If he wants to play hockey next year, it won't be hard to find someone that'll take him. He still has the ability to be a decent top 4 guy on the right team.
cnknut
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 13 @ 3:13 PM ET
Buying out Stone to sign Lovejoy makes zero sense. Good luck convincing the owners that that's a necessary move.

A buyout would only be necessary if Stone won't waive his NTC. If he wants to play hockey next year, it won't be hard to find someone that'll take him. He still has the ability to be a decent top 4 guy on the right team.

- Hunkulese


Thx Todd. Very hard to understand all the hate and low ball on most of our team. I ask my self why do these people even claim to be a real fan of the Flames? Ur more like water on zee camp fire BS I call
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jun 13 @ 3:21 PM ET
Pick looks good Todd.

Still somehow want to add some mean to the top 6. Chucky is a pest and a pain in the ass. But Flames litteraly have no one on the team that makes opposing players dread going into the corners.

I know Flames play a speed game but a mix of speed and size is not a bad thing.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 13 @ 3:40 PM ET
get Neal to start practicing his backward skating
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Jun 13 @ 7:14 PM ET
get Neal to start practicing his skating
- numbear

Fixed.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 13 @ 8:07 PM ET
Buying out Stone to sign Lovejoy makes zero sense. Good luck convincing the owners that that's a necessary move.

A buyout would only be necessary if Stone won't waive his NTC. If he wants to play hockey next year, it won't be hard to find someone that'll take him. He still has the ability to be a decent top 4 guy on the right team.

- Hunkulese

Stone wouldnt be a top 4 for too many teams quite frankly. He hasnt been top 4 for quite some time & he hardly played last year. Dont see Stone having an issue with waiving his NT to anywhere if it gives him a chance to get in the regular lineup, just a matter of Tre finder a taker or giving enough sweetner/retain salary to move him.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 13 @ 8:37 PM ET
Stone wouldnt be a top 4 for too many teams quite frankly. He hasnt been top 4 for quite some time & he hardly played last year. Dont see Stone having an issue with waiving his NT to anywhere if it gives him a chance to get in the regular lineup, just a matter of Tre finder a taker or giving enough sweetner/retain salary to move him.
- Kevin R

Didn’t we give Arizona a 3rd for Stone? There’s no way we should be retaining anything.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 13 @ 9:00 PM ET
Didn’t we give Arizona a 3rd for Stone? There’s no way we should be retaining anything.
- K-man25

That was 3 years ago. & he was like 25 or 26 & coming off a pretty decent season playing top 4 in Arizona.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jun 13 @ 9:43 PM ET
Glad to see the Flames sign Tuulola. He was impressive in the little time he spent here. Big kid with some skill. Not the fastest but hopefully he's worked on that.
Helios
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.11.2016

Jun 13 @ 10:08 PM ET
Why not just bring back Fantenberg? He isn't flashy but he was solid for us and should be pretty cheap for us to sign. I know he shoots left but he knows how to play RD too. He'd be a great guy to pair Valimaki with.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jun 14 @ 12:17 AM ET
Stone wouldnt be a top 4 for too many teams quite frankly. He hasnt been top 4 for quite some time & he hardly played last year. Dont see Stone having an issue with waiving his NT to anywhere if it gives him a chance to get in the regular lineup, just a matter of Tre finder a taker or giving enough sweetner/retain salary to move him.
- Kevin R


There are probably around 10 or so teams that could fit Stone in their top 4. It'd be an extremely minor risk to bring him in since his contract isn't unreasonable and he can likely be had for next to nothing. He's a guy playing to get a chance to continue his career, and if he plays well at all, he could probably be flipped at the deadline for more than the team traded to get him.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jun 14 @ 12:47 AM ET
Why not just bring back Fantenberg? He isn't flashy but he was solid for us and should be pretty cheap for us to sign. I know he shoots left but he knows how to play RD too. He'd be a great guy to pair Valimaki with.
- Helios

Forgot about him...
Would depend on what he'd sign for.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 14 @ 12:16 PM ET
Forgot about him...
Would depend on what he'd sign for.

- geta02it

I would imagine he'd be cheap, probably about a mill per. Would have thought Tre would have looked at him for longer term when he gave up a 4th. We already had a lot depth sitting on the sidelines in Stone, Kyllington, Prout for the playoffs. Just plays our strong side & the need isnt there but he would be a good #7 but Im sure other teams would probably offer him bottom pairing ice time.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jun 14 @ 2:33 PM ET
Think there could be something done between Flames and Panthers that could benefit both teams.

To FLA : Brodie
TO CGY : Tippett, Reimer (1 million retained)

Florida gets a reasonably priced top 4 d-man that allows them to move Matheson for forward help if they want, and clear salary + roster spot to sign Bob as a UFA.

Calgary gets the young goalscoring RW they lack, and a G they can platoon with Rittich at a fair price (2.4 million).

Maybe add a mid-round pick or B prospect going FLA way since they retain some $ on Reimer.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jun 14 @ 2:39 PM ET
I like what I've read about moving Hanifin to the top pair at RD with Gio. Would allow to play Valimaki with Andersson as the 2nd pair (bet these two will kill it together), and Kylington on the 3rd pair with Hamonic, sheltered minutes. Resign Fantenberg for cheap as a rotational 6th/7th, and Prout as the 8th to sit upstairs and provide toughness when really needed.

In any case, resigning Fantenberg or Prout is necessary in order to expose one of them at the expansion draft.

I don't like the idea to give Hamonic a long-term contract. He will command way more $ than now (think 5 or 5.5), and these kind of defensemen don't tend to age well, especially since he's already not the fastest out there. Anything above 3-4 years would be a mistake. I'd be less nervous about giving Brodie 6 or 7 more years.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jun 14 @ 3:14 PM ET
No thanks to any overpaid old guys on the blueline. The farm has arrived, it's time to reap the rewards--use those $$$ on our real need--goaltending and top 6 talent.

Kylington showed lots of promise during his call up and I believe he has been playing RHD in Stockton--another good offseason and who knows what we got there.

Gio Rass
Hamonic Hanifin
Valimaki Kylington

Fanta/whoever we sign to be our 7th d

Sign Hamonic--Hanifin did not look good with anyone other than him, don't (frank) with that pairing .


I think that 3rd pairing would be a corsi wet dream!

Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jun 14 @ 3:29 PM ET
get Neal to start practicing his backward skating
- numbear


If we would have went on a bit of a run I would've been hoping for Flames management to just tell Neal to take a long summer vacation and start training to be back after the all-star break.

Neal wasn't all bad last year, I think he'll have a bounce back year now that he's actually had time to rest awhile
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 14 @ 5:13 PM ET
Think there could be something done between Flames and Panthers that could benefit both teams.

To FLA : Brodie
TO CGY : Tippett, Reimer (1 million retained)

Florida gets a reasonably priced top 4 d-man that allows them to move Matheson for forward help if they want, and clear salary + roster spot to sign Bob as a UFA.

Calgary gets the young goalscoring RW they lack, and a G they can platoon with Rittich at a fair price (2.4 million).

Maybe add a mid-round pick or B prospect going FLA way since they retain some $ on Reimer.

- redseerpf

Well Reimer wouldnt be bad for a backup, I like the idea Florida eating half his salary doubt they part with Tippett but if they were I would do that in a heartbeat.
Perhaps a Neal & Brodie for Reimer & Hoffman or just a Neal for Reimer straight up deal.

I would also be open on taking a chance to get Sparks for dirt cheap from the Leafs.
He was the top goalie in the AHL just over a year ago, maybe just needs a change & away from Babcockbiter.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 15 @ 10:41 AM ET
Think there could be something done between Flames and Panthers that could benefit both teams.

To FLA : Brodie
TO CGY : Tippett, Reimer (1 million retained)

Florida gets a reasonably priced top 4 d-man that allows them to move Matheson for forward help if they want, and clear salary + roster spot to sign Bob as a UFA.

Calgary gets the young goalscoring RW they lack, and a G they can platoon with Rittich at a fair price (2.4 million).

Maybe add a mid-round pick or B prospect going FLA way since they retain some $ on Reimer.

- redseerpf


I didn’t realize Florida had soured ok tippett so much ...
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 15 @ 1:42 PM ET
I didn’t realize Florida had soured ok tippett so much ...
- Redmile247

I dont think they soured, he just hasnt been smashing his way on to their top 6. But they are pretty loaded in good top 6 forwards. Suggested on another site that I thought would be a great deal for both teams would be Stone for Reimer & Florida eat 1/2 his salary. We gain 1.8 mill cap space. Then I have no idea why all the hype on Anaheim buying out Perry. They arent cap strapped, why not wait a year. Put the hate for Perry aside. Why wouldnt we trade Neal & Frolik for Perry & one of Anaheims later 1st rounders. Perry could be pretty useful next year & then you buy him out next year as you wouldnt want to have to protect him because of his NMC. We would gain another almost 2.0 mill in cap space & then we would have almost $20mill to resign Tkachuk, Bennett, Rittch, Magpie & Hathaway. That would still leave space to trade Brodie & bring in someone else.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jun 15 @ 3:32 PM ET
I dont think they soured, he just hasnt been smashing his way on to their top 6. But they are pretty loaded in good top 6 forwards. Suggested on another site that I thought would be a great deal for both teams would be Stone for Reimer & Florida eat 1/2 his salary. We gain 1.8 mill cap space. Then I have no idea why all the hype on Anaheim buying out Perry. They arent cap strapped, why not wait a year. Put the hate for Perry aside. Why wouldnt we trade Neal & Frolik for Perry & one of Anaheims later 1st rounders. Perry could be pretty useful next year & then you buy him out next year as you wouldnt want to have to protect him because of his NMC. We would gain another almost 2.0 mill in cap space & then we would have almost $20mill to resign Tkachuk, Bennett, Rittch, Magpie & Hathaway. That would still leave space to trade Brodie & bring in someone else.
- Kevin R


Our kids need to play. They already beat out one set of veterans to earn their jobs, why bring in other has beens to block a roster spot.


Johnny Money Lindholm
Tkachuk Backlund Mangi/Dube
Bennett Janko Dube/Mangi
Neal* Ryan Czarnik

*If Neal can bounce back he'll slot into the top 6 most likely bumping a younger guy down to 4th line.

Gio Rass
Hanifin Hamonic
Valimak Kylington

BT doesn't even have to bring in a roster player in a trade and we would still have a rock solid lineup. Did we already forget that it was pretty much this exact roster that just finished 1st in the west?

Although, I wouldn't say no to Palat