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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 13 @ 1:11 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Where can the Penguins cut salary? Where can the Penguins cut salary?
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jun 13 @ 1:24 PM ET
Malkin
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:27 PM ET
I'm fully convinced Maatta will be traded to Chicago for absolutely nothing.
mont23
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 13 @ 1:35 PM ET
Malkin
- BlackhawkMike


He's fine now. He will were "The Man" on the back of his jersey next season.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
I would love for them to revisit Rask/JJ.

Rask would kill it as 4C, albeit very overpriced, but we wouldn’t have to sign any dmen.

Then you dump Rust’s contract.

McCann-Sid-Jake
Simon-Geno-Phil
ZAR-Bjug-Horn
Simon-Rask-???

Not ideal, but a strong 1-4 punch. Rask is much better than this past injury-ridden season. Not very good defensively, but can generate offense.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 13 @ 2:06 PM ET
Buffalo will gladly take Malkin off your hands. 31st pick in this years draft 2nd rounder next year and Casey Mittlestadt.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 13 @ 2:11 PM ET
I would love for them to revisit Rask/JJ.

Rask would kill it as 4C, albeit very overpriced, but we wouldn’t have to sign any dmen.

Then you dump Rust’s contract.

McCann-Sid-Jake
Simon-Geno-Phil
ZAR-Bjug-Horn
Simon-Rask-???

Not ideal, but a strong 1-4 punch. Rask is much better than this past injury-ridden season. Not very good defensively, but can generate offense.

- Rinosaur


You have Simon on there twice. If one of Phil or Rust is moved, I would expect Bjugstad to get a long look at the wing. His shot totals at evens are fantastic. I think a long look alongside Crosby would be a good move.

acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Get the Cup back, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jun 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
Just please get rid of JJ somehow.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
You have Simon on there twice. If one of Phil or Rust is moved, I would expect Bjugstad to get a long look at the wing. His shot totals at evens are fantastic. I think a long look alongside Crosby would be a good move.
- burgh4life87


Who plays 3C in the scenario where Bjugstad plays wing? That’s my only concern. Then were back to looking for a 3C lol
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
I could see Maatta and Rust. I don't see Bjugstad. Just buy JJ out for gawd sakes. It's manageable.....year 4 is the only year that stings. Or ideally, trade him and retain a little salary if you have to. There's absolutely no way they should have him, Maatta and Guddy on the roster next season. Try to lose 2 of the 3.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 13 @ 2:29 PM ET
Who plays 3C in the scenario where Bjugstad plays wing? That’s my only concern. Then were back to looking for a 3C lol
- j.boyd919


That's a legitimate concern. In his scenario it would be Rask. He had a JJ for Rask swap.
In another scenario I think McCann could get a look, natural center, or Teddy. I wouldn't be shocked if the Pens gave Simon a shot there either, a natural center who recently had strong success internationally in this role. Obviously there are a lot of if's in this reply, but I think they are legit scenarios. It's not like Bjugstad was a lights out third line center we should absolutely keep there, at least in my opinion.
coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Louisville, CO
Joined: 03.15.2007

Jun 13 @ 2:33 PM ET
I think Shultz's lack of term make him very attractive in the salary cap era. GMJR won't get anything real in return but it's a salary dump.

Having said that, if he can dump term, the best thing about Shultz is his numbers come off the books next year, meaning less pressure to do this again and again each summer.

I see Gubransson as movable if the Pens eat some of the money. Doable because he only has 2 years left on his contract and I assume the Penguins take something small back or pay a portion o Gib's salary.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 13 @ 2:34 PM ET
Im guessing theres more going on behind hte scenes. Does Kessel want to be in Pitt? Does he have an attitude problem that either A. Makes the team want him gone B. Cuz he wants out? C. Its a coaching deal.

The language basically states yeah we cant trade Kessel cuz hes being a Richard so he will be on teh roster regardless.

The issues are the D and the bottom 6. With the cap so tight its difficult to say how you fix 1 problem without creatign another.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 13 @ 2:36 PM ET
I think he assessed things pretty well there. One disagreement I'd have is that Gudbransson would be fairly easy to move but I don't think JR will have any intention of doing so.

Rust, Bjugstad and Hornquist are guys I could only see getting moved if they are going with other pieces for a bigger name or high end prospect. Definitely not cap dumps.

Could definitely see Maata going to Jersey.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
If a JJ for Rask deal is at all possible the Pens should be in on it. Even if they have to sweeten the pot a bit.

I could see him rebounding and turning into a good 3C and worst case could cover the 4C.

I think Bjugstad is best fit as a RW but between McCann, Blueger and Rask they would have solid bottom 6 center options.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
I would love for them to revisit Rask/JJ.

Rask would kill it as 4C, albeit very overpriced, but we wouldn’t have to sign any dmen.

Then you dump Rust’s contract.

McCann-Sid-Jake
Simon-Geno-Phil
ZAR-Bjug-Horn
Simon-Rask-???

Not ideal, but a strong 1-4 punch. Rask is much better than this past injury-ridden season. Not very good defensively, but can generate offense.

- Rinosaur

I agree with what you're doing, I'd just play Rask at RW and Blueger at C. I'm not as optimistic on Rask since I think his point totals were inflated because Carolina used him as a middle 6 center, but he's not going to kill them like JJ and still can be a 5C if there's an injury.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jun 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
If I'm Lemieux and Burkle and I see JR cap dumping the likes of Rust, Horny, Bjug etc because he (JR) made a pathetically inane move in signing JJ (and to a lesser extent EG) then I'm firing JR likely before the draft, or at a minimum shortly thereafter.

No way does ownership allow JR the ability to make these idiotic moves and then weaken the team further in an attempt to rid themselves of the albatross contracts.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
I think Shultz's lack of term make him very attractive in the salary cap era. GMJR won't get anything real in return but it's a salary dump.

Having said that, if he can dump term, the best thing about Shultz is his numbers come off the books next year, meaning less pressure to do this again and again each summer.

I see Gubransson as movable if the Pens eat some of the money. Doable because he only has 2 years left on his contract and I assume the Penguins take something small back or pay a portion o Gib's salary.

- coohill


Schultz is far from a cap dump. He will bring back at least a 1st and a good prospect.

There are a lot of teams that would gladly take Gudbransson without salary retained.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
I could see Maatta and Rust. I don't see Bjugstad. Just buy JJ out for gawd sakes. It's manageable.....year 4 is the only year that stings. Or ideally, trade him and retain a little salary if you have to. There's absolutely no way they should have him, Maatta and Guddy on the roster next season. Try to lose 2 of the 3.
- madmike71

It's hard to dump Rust without getting a wing back unless they are willing to play both ZAR and Simon in the top 9, but I suppose you can find a cheaper guy.

I also want to keep Bjugstad. Looked good at 3C and probably had more points if either of his wings could convert on all the scoring chances they created.

I think it's JJ and one if Maatta and Gudbranson, probably Maatta who is easier to move. I'm curious if Gudbranson can repeat, if not he's next year's cap dump which with one year left will be possible.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 13 @ 2:46 PM ET
You have Simon on there twice. If one of Phil or Rust is moved, I would expect Bjugstad to get a long look at the wing. His shot totals at evens are fantastic. I think a long look alongside Crosby would be a good move.
- burgh4life87



Everything about Bjugs screams C to me. His play style, strong possession, good 2 way play and size.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
It's hard to dump Rust without getting a wing back unless they are willing to play both ZAR and Simon in the top 9, but I suppose you can find a cheaper guy.

I also want to keep Bjugstad. Looked good at 3C and probably had more points if either of his wings could convert on all the scoring chances they created.

- Tojo.



Simon(Rust too)-Bjugs-Horny created alot of chances and had puck in O-zone much more than D-zone if I remember things correctly.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 13 @ 2:53 PM ET
I think Shultz's lack of term make him very attractive in the salary cap era. GMJR won't get anything real in return but it's a salary dump.

Having said that, if he can dump term, the best thing about Shultz is his numbers come off the books next year, meaning less pressure to do this again and again each summer.

I see Gubransson as movable if the Pens eat some of the money. Doable because he only has 2 years left on his contract and I assume the Penguins take something small back or pay a portion o Gib's salary.

- coohill

Schultz is a name to watch just because most of the beat guys have said if he wants a raise they might just get something for him.

But I think you'd almost have to replace him rather than go Gudbranson and Ruhwedel. Maybe trade for Collin Miller whom I have no idea why he fell out of favor?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 13 @ 3:00 PM ET
Simon(Rust too)-Bjugs-Horny created alot of chances and had puck in O-zone much more than D-zone if I remember things correctly.
- MattStrat

They certainly did, really dominant possession and gave up almost no scoring chances.

People's only complaint about Bjugstad at 3C was he didn't score enough points, but how was he going to get assists when Hornqvist and Simon couldn't buy goals?

I'd seriously consider putting Phil there (if he's still here) because they'd cover for everything he doesn't do and he'd finish the chances they created.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 13 @ 3:01 PM ET
You have Simon on there twice. If one of Phil or Rust is moved, I would expect Bjugstad to get a long look at the wing. His shot totals at evens are fantastic. I think a long look alongside Crosby would be a good move.
- burgh4life87


Haha I meant Blueger on the 4th
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 13 @ 3:06 PM ET
Everything about Bjugs screams C to me. His play style, strong possession, good 2 way play and size.
- MattStrat


The great thing about Bjug IMO is that he can be effective at both. To me I’d rather have him at 3C, but if the Pens picked up at 3C he could totally be a 30/30 winger IMO.
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