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liverpoolnhl
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 02.06.2018

Jul 9 @ 5:22 PM ET
Imagine, if you will:

Perreault-Scheifele-Laine
Connor-Copp-Wheeler
Ehlers-Little-Roslovic
Vesalainen-Lowry-Appleton

This is likely the most lethal forward group the Jets will ever have iced. One can make an argument for flipping Little and Copp, simply because Little and Wheeler have past chemistry, and Copp is a better safety net for Roslovic

- Rexypoo

đź‘Ťwould love to at least start the season this way......
2.0
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jul 9 @ 6:03 PM ET
I am hoping the Kevin Lebanc contract helps reset the RFA market. If not then Wilson may be the GM of the year. Unreal value.

EDIT: and who is his agent? Young players be wary and stay away from that guy.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 10 @ 8:04 AM ET
Jokiharju would’ve been a great pickup for us, and Roslovic+ would’ve gotten it down if Alex Nylander was enough
DrunkenCanuck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fighting a Flock of Dubas Wives, ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jul 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
Jokiharju would’ve been a great pickup for us, and Roslovic+ would’ve gotten it down if Alex Nylander was enough
- Rexypoo


I agree with that. I think Cheveldayoff has lost his fastball.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 10 @ 12:02 PM ET
I am hoping the Kevin Lebanc contract helps reset the RFA market. If not then Wilson may be the GM of the year. Unreal value.

EDIT: and who is his agent? Young players be wary and stay away from that guy.

- 2.0

It won't. Guaranteed. NHLPA won't be happy. I think because he was a late round pick, he had cheap and crappy representation.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 10 @ 3:30 PM ET
It won't. Guaranteed. NHLPA won't be happy. I think because he was a late round pick, he had cheap and crappy representation.
- RogerRoeper


There’s definitely some type of wink wink, handshake extension agreed on for next season
bennythehat
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:01 PM ET
I agree with that. I think Cheveldayoff has lost his fastball.
- DrunkenCanuck


Roslovic is better than Nylander (IMO) so, I am not sure what the point is.
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 10 @ 5:30 PM ET
Roslovic is better than Nylander (IMO) so, I am not sure what the point is.
- bennythehat



Yea for sure.

Maybe tomorrow would be good day for Chevy to drop the bomb (no Kawhi, no all-star game) - and trade Patrik?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 10 @ 6:32 PM ET
Didn’t Arizona just get a new owner?
- Rexypoo


Yes. And?
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Joe Pisarcik Theorem , ON
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jul 11 @ 2:12 AM ET


Can someone please drag Chevy back from his Camper in Falcon Lake?


Janky Old Airstreams are cool and all Kevin, but it’s time to get to work.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 11 @ 8:02 AM ET
Yea for sure.

Maybe tomorrow would be good day for Chevy to drop the bomb (no Kawhi, no all-star game) - and trade Patrik?

- grahamzky


Good way to bomb your cup window
CharlieDog
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jul 11 @ 8:39 AM ET
Can someone please drag Chevy back from his Camper in Falcon Lake?


Janky Old Airstreams are cool and all Kevin, but it’s time to get to work.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


He can afford a new Airstream, they still build new Airstreams.
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:06 AM ET
Good way to bomb your cup window
- Rexypoo


If the Jets maintain their status quo, there is no cup window.
Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 11 @ 10:12 AM ET
Barry trotz took a D that allowed the most goals and turned them into the team that allowed the least.

Guys, we have the ingredients!!! But if our coach doesn’t know how to use the right recipe to make the cake it won’t work!!!

Vesalainen, appleton, Niku and Poolman are all more than capable of replacing the pieces we lost.

I’m more concerned with Pomo doing the exact same thing then Chevy spending the summer at his cottage and doing nothing.

My point, our window is not closed or closing!!!!! Relax
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:30 AM ET
Barry trotz took a D that allowed the most goals and turned them into the team that allowed the least.

Guys, we have the ingredients!!! But if our coach doesn’t know how to use the right recipe to make the cake it won’t work!!!

Vesalainen, appleton, Niku and Poolman are all more than capable of replacing the pieces we lost.

I’m more concerned with Pomo doing the exact same thing then Chevy spending the summer at his cottage and doing nothing.

My point, our window is not closed or closing!!!!! Relax

- Ross77



Who would you suggest as coach, with Barry Trotz already taken? Who
would you hire?
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 11 @ 10:34 AM ET
If the Jets maintain their status quo, there is no cup window.
- grahamzky


Trading your best weapon isn’t even close to helpful.
If anyone is a trade chip up front, it’s Kyle Connor.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 11 @ 10:35 AM ET
Who would you suggest as coach, with Barry Trotz already taken? Who
would you hire?

- grahamzky


Someone new. Not some old timer who’s been fired repeatedly, and will just try and stubbornly shoehorn players into their established system and style.

Gimme a rookie head coach
2.0
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jul 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
Someone new. Not some old timer who’s been fired repeatedly, and will just try and stubbornly shoehorn players into their established system and style.

Gimme a rookie head coach

- Rexypoo


The system and style worked just fine in 2017/18, it is not a systems problem. If PoMo can't sort out the dressing room issues then he needs to go.

I have a love/hate relationship with Laine. He is that young developing player with a generational shot. There is nothing else about his game that is NHL quality with exception of sporadic physicality. His work ethic on ice, without discussing the reputation for off ice complacency, is lacking. He may be a classic 'coach killer' - the player who brings nothing to the team but hollow promises. Leaning towards 'the hate' this summer.
Ross77
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
Who would you suggest as coach, with Barry Trotz already taken? Who
would you hire?

- grahamzky

Dale Hawerchuck or Samberg’s coach in Minnesota who has won three national championships is also interesting.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 11 @ 11:34 AM ET
The system and style worked just fine in 2017/18, it is not a systems problem. If PoMo can't sort out the dressing room issues then he needs to go.

I have a love/hate relationship with Laine. He is that young developing player with a generational shot. There is nothing else about his game that is NHL quality with exception of sporadic physicality. His work ethic on ice, without discussing the reputation for off ice complacency, is lacking. He may be a classic 'coach killer' - the player who brings nothing to the team but hollow promises. Leaning towards 'the hate' this summer.

- 2.0


The system didn’t work in 17/18, is the problem. We had a stronger lineup, half our lineup going off at the same time, and a lot of luck.

All the issues people (me) were raising red flags over came to a head this season. Being the lack of consistent offence, our defensive system allowing way too many shots from all over the ice, the ass PK, among other things
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 11 @ 11:36 AM ET
Trading your best weapon isn’t even close to helpful.
If anyone is a trade chip up front, it’s Kyle Connor.

- Rexypoo



Yea, you're right, Connor is a better trade chip. Get more for him. But they'd better damn well not trade Connor!

Scouts from other teams have watched Laine, they're not blind. Who do you think would more likely be offer-sheeted Connor or Laine?

Besides this blog was getting a little stale anyways, wasn't it? Stir the pot!
2.0
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jul 11 @ 1:11 PM ET
The system didn’t work in 17/18, is the problem. We had a stronger lineup, half our lineup going off at the same time, and a lot of luck.

All the issues people (me) were raising red flags over came to a head this season. Being the lack of consistent offence, our defensive system allowing way too many shots from all over the ice, the ass PK, among other things

- Rexypoo



If it weren't name calling I would compare you with chicken little. The sky wasn't falling then and it isn't falling now. So much crap was said by you in the last two seasons that if you did have any valid point it was blotted out by brown.

Reality check: The issues concerning highly competitive organizations of any stripe are intensely dynamic. Finishing 2nd overall and in the top 4 for playoffs while knocking off the top team (Preds) last year was no fluke. The lineup this year was stronger than the 17/18 lineup but they didn't play like it - another dynamic entered the equation. The 17/18 offence was consistent by NHL standards at 2nd overall, 4th best PP by percentage, defense was very good with only 4 teams allowing less goals. The PK was strong in 17/18 at 7th overall by percentage. Don't be re-writing history to suit your narrative. Most fans know that even great teams have a low probability of winning a championship.

Rexypoo you have zero credibility with me concerning your analysis. It is useless. Sometimes I appreciate the stats you bring forward but please stop providing your assessments.
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 11 @ 4:52 PM ET
If it weren't name calling I would compare you with chicken little. The sky wasn't falling then and it isn't falling now. So much crap was said by you in the last two seasons that if you did have any valid point it was blotted out by brown.

Reality check: The issues concerning highly competitive organizations of any stripe are intensely dynamic. Finishing 2nd overall and in the top 4 for playoffs while knocking off the top team (Preds) last year was no fluke. The lineup this year was stronger than the 17/18 lineup but they didn't play like it - another dynamic entered the equation. The 17/18 offence was consistent by NHL standards at 2nd overall, 4th best PP by percentage, defense was very good with only 4 teams allowing less goals. The PK was strong in 17/18 at 7th overall by percentage. Don't be re-writing history to suit your narrative. Most fans know that even great teams have a low probability of winning a championship.

Rexypoo you have zero credibility with me concerning your analysis. It is useless. Sometimes I appreciate the stats you bring forward but please stop providing your assessments.

- 2.0


Agree with your assessment that 17/18 was no fluke. The team played there was no tomorrow. Last season was a different story, they didn't play with that "hell bent for leather style." It was like they were saving it for the playoffs.
I note you say "another dynamic entered the equation." Do you have any idea what that equation was? I certainly don't. But for some reason they lost their intensity or I should say some players did.
Like you say a lot of great teams lose - Bolts, Leafs, Bruins, etc., only one SC winner. It seems, like they say, you need one team for regular season, a different one for playoffs - game is called much different.
Anyways, back to my question - any idea what that dynamic was that entered the equation? Think it might have been $$$ related as players thought of this upcoming season? That's the only theory I can think of.
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 11 @ 6:33 PM ET
Dale Hawerchuck or Samberg’s coach in Minnesota who has won three national championships is also interesting.
- Ross77


Wouldn't be surprised if Hawerchuk is eventual successor
jetsnation
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jul 11 @ 7:55 PM ET
If it weren't name calling I would compare you with chicken little. The sky wasn't falling then and it isn't falling now. So much crap was said by you in the last two seasons that if you did have any valid point it was blotted out by brown.

Reality check: The issues concerning highly competitive organizations of any stripe are intensely dynamic. Finishing 2nd overall and in the top 4 for playoffs while knocking off the top team (Preds) last year was no fluke. The lineup this year was stronger than the 17/18 lineup but they didn't play like it - another dynamic entered the equation. The 17/18 offence was consistent by NHL standards at 2nd overall, 4th best PP by percentage, defense was very good with only 4 teams allowing less goals. The PK was strong in 17/18 at 7th overall by percentage. Don't be re-writing history to suit your narrative. Most fans know that even great teams have a low probability of winning a championship.

Rexypoo you have zero credibility with me concerning your analysis. It is useless. Sometimes I appreciate the stats you bring forward but please stop providing your assessments.

- 2.0


Bang on 2.0 . Nice to see more and more posters coming around to something I've been also been implying for quite a while . The "Village idiot's diatribe has never really changed".

Jets transition into some more youth will be fine. Vesalianen, Roslovic, Sandberg, Poolman , Niku, etc. There is not a big gap, and Jets still have some fine prospects. Add a second line solid center and add the maturity of our current still young roster and were right there again. Some like Rexy complain about coaching , but the reality is that we got pipped by the team that won the cup, and bottom line is that if a few more bounces and ref calls went our way we could have been hoisting the cup. The window certainly hasn't closed yet. I might speak differently if we suddenly lose Laine or Connor to offer sheets...but that hasnt happened yet and still is just speculation.
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