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BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
This fits within the $14 million estimate on the combined Edmundson, Binnington, Sanford, Fabbri, Barbashev, and Sundqvist. Right in line.

I was thinking closer to $1.25-$1.33 but it's in the ball park.

- Jason Millen

I agree. Your estimate is about right assuming you can get Binnington at $4-4.5.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
Old news, but some of you might enjoy the time capsule: Hull on Keenan - https://youtu.be/ap3Y0GCO2xU
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 9 @ 1:33 PM ET
Colorado has a great goalie in Grabner. He started shakey but got back to his game. Colorado improved their forward ranks a lot.

But moving Barrie and betting on two young dmen is a big time gamble. It would be like us having moved Petro ahead of Parayko's second season and having drafted a really good dman, think Petro's first NHL taste. You could see his potential but he was getting killed.

- BluemanGuruu


Shows you what I know...
Yeah Boyes
St Louis Blues
Location: Ekland, MO
Joined: 04.20.2009

Jul 9 @ 5:20 PM ET
This fits within the $14 million estimate on the combined Edmundson, Binnington, Sanford, Fabbri, Barbashev, and Sundqvist. Right in line.

I was thinking closer to $1.25-$1.33 but it's in the ball park.

- Jason Millen


How much of that are you allotting to Sunny?
Yeah Boyes
St Louis Blues
Location: Ekland, MO
Joined: 04.20.2009

Jul 12 @ 8:45 AM ET
Happy one month anniversary fellas

Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 12 @ 12:35 PM ET
WTH?




carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 12 @ 3:28 PM ET
WTH?



- Jason Millen


"KMOX legal analyst Brad Young weighs in:

"Their argument is, is that because that phrase was first used in the bar then they have a right to use that, an exclusive right to use that phrase," Young says. "



This is pathetic. They didn't get enough publicity from this already? I find it really funny that they think they have exclusive rights to the phrase "Play Gloria".

bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 12 @ 4:03 PM ET
"KMOX legal analyst Brad Young weighs in:

"Their argument is, is that because that phrase was first used in the bar then they have a right to use that, an exclusive right to use that phrase," Young says. "



This is pathetic. They didn't get enough publicity from this already? I find it really funny that they think they have exclusive rights to the phrase "Play Gloria".


- carcus


Ah yes. Now you see the huge entitlement of the South Philadelphia male.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 12 @ 4:28 PM ET
"KMOX legal analyst Brad Young weighs in:

"Their argument is, is that because that phrase was first used in the bar then they have a right to use that, an exclusive right to use that phrase," Young says. "



This is pathetic. They didn't get enough publicity from this already? I find it really funny that they think they have exclusive rights to the phrase "Play Gloria".


- carcus


Did they trademark it? Reminds me of the old three-peat thing and Pat Reilly...

https://www.wsj.com/artic...ing-three-peat-1401923767
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 12 @ 6:31 PM ET
Did they trademark it? Reminds me of the old three-peat thing and Pat Reilly...

https://www.wsj.com/artic...ing-three-peat-1401923767

- eggsegan


I still 100% contend that you should not be able to copyright/trademark words other than in connection to a company name and logo combination type thing.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 12 @ 7:36 PM ET
Fabbri 1 year, $900k
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 13 @ 1:40 AM ET
Fabbri 1 year, $900k
- eggsegan

Good deal for the Blues.

If he doesn't progress, is an extra/healthy scratch, it's not a bad deal.

If he can somehow become close to the player he was pre-injury, it's a great deal.

No real downside for the Blues here.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 13 @ 7:21 AM ET
Fabbri 1 year, $900k
- eggsegan


Reinke signed to a two way deal as well.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 13 @ 7:22 AM ET
Good deal for the Blues.

If he doesn't progress, is an extra/healthy scratch, it's not a bad deal.

If he can somehow become close to the player he was pre-injury, it's a great deal.

No real downside for the Blues here.

- carcus


League minimum is 700k for perspective.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:03 AM ET
Dakota Joshua http://www.hockeysfuture..../prospects/dakota-joshua/
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Jul 13 @ 1:44 PM ET
"KMOX legal analyst Brad Young weighs in:

"Their argument is, is that because that phrase was first used in the bar then they have a right to use that, an exclusive right to use that phrase," Young says. "



This is pathetic. They didn't get enough publicity from this already? I find it really funny that they think they have exclusive rights to the phrase "Play Gloria".


- carcus

It's ALWAYS sunny in Philadelphia, ha ha ha
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Jul 13 @ 1:46 PM ET
Good job on Fabbri and Reinke signings. No risk only rewards possibly
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Jul 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
Happy one month anniversary fellas
- Yeah Boyes

It's only been a month??? Seems like a few years. That's cool. Enjoy while you can!!!!!!

ST LOUIS BLUES: 2018-2019 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:32 PM ET
2 yrs $4.4 million for Binnington.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 13 @ 8:38 PM ET
2 yrs $4.4 million for Binnington.
- BluemanGuruu


Good for him and good for the team. That seems right to me.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 14 @ 1:34 PM ET
Well i had the $ range right but a year off on the Binnington deal. Still on track based on my analysis. The Edmundson situation is the only one that concerns me at all.
eggsegan
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 14 @ 3:02 PM ET
Well i had the $ range right but a year off on the Binnington deal. Still on track based on my analysis. The Edmundson situation is the only one that concerns me at all.
- Jason Millen


Antilles is the winner...
I think Maroon has the same options he had last summer. Take more money/term to play elsewhere; or sign in St. Louis for the best the Blues can fit under the cap, somewhere in the 2-2.5 range. I think the Blues want a 2y deal, he pushes for a 4y deal, and he comes back on a 3y deal.

I think Binnington gets a 2 year deal for around 4m, similar to Matt Murray's contract after his Cup win. Two years from now, if Binnington keeps up his level of play, Blues get a cheap backup to replace Allen, Binnington gets a big raise.

- Antilles


He is making more than Allen though...
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
Well i had the $ range right but a year off on the Binnington deal. Still on track based on my analysis. The Edmundson situation is the only one that concerns me at all.
- Jason Millen


The Blues have to move some money out abd take a shot at an RFA or two.

There are good ones out there to be had. There are too many aging roster spots, kids coming in etc.

I'd trade Bozak. I'd consider moving Schenn. For the right prospect package and real player I'd consider moving Petro. I'm not yet quite willing to move Allen. His numbers should rebound splitting time with Binnington, which historically pushes Allen's play. That increases his numbers. It also increases his value while adding a good candidate for being taken by Seattle. With a few teams needing goaltenders you could squeeze Seattle to offer more to keep him for expansion. Or say say tell them to pick a player you want make a trade with future considerations and agree on a player to be picked versus trade Allen befote the expansion draft. As a fall back, even if Binnington has say a poor season, he won a Cup and that will always be enough for the next three years for teams willing to gamble on him--that's the brilliance of Armstrong's position as it stands.

Everything Armstrong is doing now is geared towards expansion draft and the possibility of a lockout. He probably has more information on this stuff than us.

If you traded away $8million you could make a play on Tkachuk and force Calgary's hand.

The Rangers, Tampa and Leafs are all prime candidates to pick a good player. Some low risk reward players on the Rangers where their salary would be just slightly higher than current value without costing high picks. That's straight money.


BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 16 @ 2:45 PM ET
I forgot to mention the Jets. I love Conner. I really hope someone offersheets Laine bc his game has issues.

The Blues have to move some money out abd take a shot at an RFA or two.

There are good ones out there to be had. There are too many aging roster spots, kids coming in etc.

I'd trade Bozak. I'd consider moving Schenn. For the right prospect package and real player I'd consider moving Petro. I'm not yet quite willing to move Allen. His numbers should rebound splitting time with Binnington, which historically pushes Allen's play. That increases his numbers. It also increases his value while adding a good candidate for being taken by Seattle. With a few teams needing goaltenders you could squeeze Seattle to offer more to keep him for expansion. Or say say tell them to pick a player you want make a trade with future considerations and agree on a player to be picked versus trade Allen befote the expansion draft. As a fall back, even if Binnington has say a poor season, he won a Cup and that will always be enough for the next three years for teams willing to gamble on him--that's the brilliance of Armstrong's position as it stands.

Everything Armstrong is doing now is geared towards expansion draft and the possibility of a lockout. He probably has more information on this stuff than us.

If you traded away $8million you could make a play on Tkachuk and force Calgary's hand.

The Rangers, Tampa and Leafs are all prime candidates to pick a good player. Some low risk reward players on the Rangers where their salary would be just slightly higher than current value without costing high picks. That's straight money.

- BluemanGuruu

bluenote31
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis
Joined: 09.25.2006

Jul 17 @ 8:53 AM ET
The Blues have to move some money out abd take a shot at an RFA or two.

There are good ones out there to be had. There are too many aging roster spots, kids coming in etc.

I'd trade Bozak. I'd consider moving Schenn. For the right prospect package and real player I'd consider moving Petro. I'm not yet quite willing to move Allen. His numbers should rebound splitting time with Binnington, which historically pushes Allen's play. That increases his numbers. It also increases his value while adding a good candidate for being taken by Seattle. With a few teams needing goaltenders you could squeeze Seattle to offer more to keep him for expansion. Or say say tell them to pick a player you want make a trade with future considerations and agree on a player to be picked versus trade Allen befote the expansion draft. As a fall back, even if Binnington has say a poor season, he won a Cup and that will always be enough for the next three years for teams willing to gamble on him--that's the brilliance of Armstrong's position as it stands.

Everything Armstrong is doing now is geared towards expansion draft and the possibility of a lockout. He probably has more information on this stuff than us.

If you traded away $8million you could make a play on Tkachuk and force Calgary's hand.

The Rangers, Tampa and Leafs are all prime candidates to pick a good player. Some low risk reward players on the Rangers where their salary would be just slightly higher than current value without costing high picks. That's straight money.

- BluemanGuruu



I understand they are coming up on contract years and tough decisions will need to be made in short order but I'm not sure trading away some of our best players in their prime is the best strategy right now for this team. And then hoping to try and offer sheet someone to offset it.

If I were Armstrong I'd keep the core together and just roll the dice. Other teams have for sure improved and either way it's going to be a crap shoot but the Blues should be right in mix of it.
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