RafiDRW
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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Lucic for Mantha and AA (salary purposes) - Reveen.
Lucic and a first for Abdelkader, Daley and Franzen |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Lucic and a first for Abdelkader, Daley and Franzen - RafiDRW
Damn you are just getting greedy now
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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We could have had Brogachev - RatedR80
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Direct quote from Jesse's agent :
"Yeah it is. In the beg. Jesse was following the media a lot, then you know after a while he wasn't following anymore, but it is. Sometimes CDN media is overwhelming. It's not anybody's fault."
So now it’s on the media? (frank) sakes how many issues does this kid have? He better not end up in a major market then (NY/Toronto etc etc) or they will eat him alive |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Kurt Leavins
@KurtLeavins
Head Scout Tyler Wright’s name has disappeared from the Detroit Red Wings official website.
They might as well announce his arrival to the Oilers now |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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Kurt Leavins
@KurtLeavins
Head Scout Tyler Wright’s name has disappeared from the Detroit Red Wings official website.
They might as well announce his arrival to the Oilers now - RatedR80
Wonder what the Wings do. |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Wonder what the Wings do. - RafiDRW
Hire Chia |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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Hire Chia - Reveen.
I will disembowel you. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Mark Spector
@SportsnetSpec
Changes coming to Edmonton Oilers scouting staff.
Former DET Dir. of Amateur Scouting Tyler Wright will join EDM staff, as will pro scout Archie Henderson.
Former DET scout Jeff Finley will not join GM Ken Holland in EDM.
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Mark Spector
@SportsnetSpec
Changes coming to Edmonton Oilers scouting staff.
Former DET Dir. of Amateur Scouting Tyler Wright will join EDM staff, as will pro scout Archie Henderson.
Former DET scout Jeff Finley will not join GM Ken Holland in EDM. - RatedR80
I've read a couple negative reviews of Henderson as a hockey guy. Both suggest that he's very much an old school purist without an adaptable or innovative bone in his body. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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I've read a couple negative reviews of Henderson as a hockey guy. Both suggest that he's very much an old school purist without an adaptable or innovative bone in his body. - MaximumBone
Yeah I haven’t seen much for positives on this and Wright being a former Oiler just throws more fuel on the fire
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Yeah I haven’t seen much for positives on this and Wright being a former Oiler just throws more fuel on the fire - RatedR80
I don't have much to say on the Wright hiring. Given he's been head of amateur scouting, I think it's fair to judge their draft history since 2014.
2014: Larkin (great), Turgeon (nyet), Ehn (meh)
2015: Svechnikov (nyet), Saarijarvi (meh), Pearson (perhaps solid)
2016: Cholowski (interesting), Smith (nyet), Hronek (great)
2017: Rasmussen (not keen, but solid)
2018: Zadina (lucky), Veleno (great), Berggren (I'm a fan), McIsaac (good)
I won't include the 2019 Draft given Yzerman's takeover. Seems like it trended well with a few quality picks, but there are some gaps there. I think it's fair to consider his draft history as pretty close to league average. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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I don't have much to say on the Wright hiring. Given he's been head of amateur scouting, I think it's fair to judge their draft history since 2014.
2014: Larkin (great), Turgeon (nyet), Ehn (meh)
2015: Svechnikov (nyet), Saarijarvi (meh), Pearson (perhaps solid)
2016: Cholowski (interesting), Smith (nyet), Hronek (great)
2017: Rasmussen (not keen, but solid)
2018: Zadina (lucky), Veleno (great), Berggren (I'm a fan), McIsaac (good)
I won't include the 2019 Draft given Yzerman's takeover. Seems like it trended well with a few quality picks, but there are some gaps there. I think it's fair to consider his draft history as pretty close to league average. - MaximumBone
Oilers fans will complain just to complain.....the amateurs scouting isn’t a weakness for us anyways it’s the pro scouting that needs work
Now when I say Oilers fans will complain just to complain I’m not talking about how Holland has been rather inactive this summer on trades and such I’m talking about complaining about Wright because he is a former Oiler.....bigger battles to fight here
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How do they replace the goals they lose simply through regression?
While it's absolutely fair count on 40+ goals from Connor, we had three players who had career years (both goal-wise and point-wise) whose production is going to need to be replaced when they come back down to earth. Chiasson scoring 9 more goals than his previous high and ~11 more than his career average, Nuge scoring ~8 more than his career average and Draisaitl spiking to at least 15 more than we should expect of him brings us to a total of ~35 goals that we should reasonably account for losing. Kassian scoring 15 is also a touch out of normalcy but since he's done it before, I think it's fair to exclude him from this.
We can be fairly confident that Khaira getting some more bounces ought to bring his somewhere closer to 8 goals (+5) and Granlund and (likely) Gagner replacing Reider and Rattie should probably account for another 10 goals. Add in some stronger forward depth that in our AHL leaders who got some experience (Currie, Gambo, Cave, Russell) alongside the additional UFAs (Jurco, Nygard, Haas) and we can hope they can translate it into another 5-10 more goals.
We're left relying on Tippett being able to extract value out of the bottom-6 in a way we haven't gotten since 2016-17. Fortunately for us, he has a track record of doing this. The only realistic route to a winning season with the current roster is reducing GA- specifically from the bottom-6. If the bottom-6 can cumulatively be closer to -10 than the almost -30 they were, that alone will do wonders. Nuge will likely be in about the same situation as far as goal-differential goes while the McDuo should be able to negate some of their negatives from early last season when they were separated.
There's hope, but that hope shouldn't be counted on. Any number of things can go horribly wrong. At least they're not counting on any rookies to carry their hopes this time. |
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Oilers fans will complain just to complain.....the amateurs scouting isn’t a weakness for us anyways it’s the pro scouting that needs work
Now when I say Oilers fans will complain just to complain I’m not talking about how Holland has been rather inactive this summer on trades and such I’m talking about complaining about Wright because he is a former Oiler.....bigger battles to fight here - RatedR80
There's things I would do differently, but I can't argue with the fact that the team is likely best off leaving things be and waiting the cap hell out. It's the unfortunate reality that I've been reluctant to accept but I've understood it's merit. They'll have 24mil heading into next year with only Nurse needing a notable raise from his current rate. Jones and Lagesson are the most likely candidates to rise to the occasion but out-of-left-field D prospects succeeding for one season rarely see a huge spike in pay.
Barring a Nuge trade, it'll likely end up translating into somewhere around 10-12mil in free space after resigning guys. Put that money towards a top-6 guy or two and hope that one of Benson, Marody, Yamamoto or Maksimov are ready for 2nd line minutes and I think there's potential for a big turnaround. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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How do they replace the goals they lose simply through regression?
While it's absolutely fair count on 40+ goals from Connor, we had three players who had career years (both goal-wise and point-wise) whose production is going to need to be replaced when they come back down to earth. Chiasson scoring 9 more goals than his previous high and ~11 more than his career average, Nuge scoring ~8 more than his career average and Draisaitl spiking to at least 15 more than we should expect of him brings us to a total of ~35 goals that we should reasonably account for losing. Kassian scoring 15 is also a touch out of normalcy but since he's done it before, I think it's fair to exclude him from this.
We can be fairly confident that Khaira getting some more bounces ought to bring his somewhere closer to 8 goals (+5) and Granlund and (likely) Gagner replacing Reider and Rattie should probably account for another 10 goals. Add in some stronger forward depth that in our AHL leaders who got some experience (Currie, Gambo, Cave, Russell) alongside the additional UFAs (Jurco, Nygard, Haas) and we can hope they can translate it into another 5-10 more goals.
We're left relying on Tippett being able to extract value out of the bottom-6 in a way we haven't gotten since 2016-17. Fortunately for us, he has a track record of doing this. The only realistic route to a winning season with the current roster is reducing GA- specifically from the bottom-6. If the bottom-6 can cumulatively be closer to -10 than the almost -30 they were, that alone will do wonders. Nuge will likely be in about the same situation as far as goal-differential goes while the McDuo should be able to negate some of their negatives from early last season when they were separated.
There's hope, but that hope shouldn't be counted on. Any number of things can go horribly wrong. At least they're not counting on any rookies to carry their hopes this time. - MaximumBone
The Leon and Connor duo will have another productive season.....even if there is a tad of a slide it won’t be too much.....Nuge is the real question for me and not because of skill but who will be playing on his wings.....the bottom 6 can’t really get any worse then it was last season so we can only hope that Tippett can drag it out of them......can Nurse match or improve on last season because we need it....can Klefbom stay healthy because we need his production as well....Larsson needs a bounce back year too.....lots of things have to go right with this team in its current form
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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There's things I would do differently, but I can't argue with the fact that the team is likely best off leaving things be and waiting the cap hell out. It's the unfortunate reality that I've been reluctant to accept but I've understood it's merit. They'll have 24mil heading into next year with only Nurse needing a notable raise from his current rate. Jones and Lagesson are the most likely candidates to rise to the occasion but out-of-left-field D prospects succeeding for one season rarely see a huge spike in pay.
Barring a Nuge trade, it'll likely end up translating into somewhere around 10-12mil in free space after resigning guys. Put that money towards a top-6 guy or two and hope that one of Benson, Marody, Yamamoto or Maksimov are ready for 2nd line minutes and I think there's potential for a big turnaround. - MaximumBone
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what will end up happening but I hope Holland has learned his lesson on spending or we will just fall right back into the same old issues.....24 mil with not that many to resign certainly leaves enough space to fill a need or two
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I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what will end up happening but I hope Holland has learned his lesson on spending or we will just fall right back into the same old issues.....24 mil with not that many to resign certainly leaves enough space to fill a need or two - RatedR80
Oh, there's plenty of people to resign/sign; of the current roster, only 10 still have contracts beyond this year. There'll certainly be some major turnover, but it's mostly on the low-ends and we have a good collection of burgeoning youth to replace them with. I wouldn't be surprised if the bottom-6 going into 2020-21 looked something like this:
UFA- Marody- Currie/Nygard
Gambo- Khaira- Chiasson
Russell
Cheap, Tippett-taught and hopefully effective. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Oh, there's plenty of people to resign/sign; of the current roster, only 10 still have contracts beyond this year. There'll certainly be some major turnover, but it's mostly on the low-ends and we have a good collection of burgeoning youth to replace them with. I wouldn't be surprised if the bottom-6 going into 2020-21 looked something like this:
UFA- Marody- Currie/Nygard
Gambo- Khaira- Chiasson
Russell
Cheap, Tippett-taught and hopefully effective. - MaximumBone
Yes lots to resign but none of which will cost us like Nurse will for example so I do expect enough cap space to pursue a top 6 forward but we shall see....lots can happen between now and next off season....good thing about this is you will have a lot of guys playing for jobs which could turn out to be beneficial
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Tippett said he is spending his summer watching all of the Oilers and Condors games....I wonder how many Oilers games he watches till he says screw it and just watches Condors games |
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wreckage
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB Joined: 07.29.2013
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Looks like Puj's agent is backtracking now. Says the media put words in his mouth about going over to Europe if not traded. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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Looks like Puj's agent is backtracking now. Says the media put words in his mouth about going over to Europe if not traded. - wreckage
He also says the media is a reason JP wants out.....how long till JP fires this clown? He is not helping him at all in this process
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wreckage
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB Joined: 07.29.2013
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He also says the media is a reason JP wants out.....how long till JP fires this clown? He is not helping him at all in this process - RatedR80
For his sake, it better happen soon. GMs are gonna soon stop dealing with this clown if this is how he conducts business. Threatening to take his ball and go home will have GMs saying well here is the offer, take it or leave it. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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For his sake, it better happen soon. GMs are gonna soon stop dealing with this clown if this is how he conducts business. Threatening to take his ball and go home will have GMs saying well here is the offer, take it or leave it. - wreckage
I’m pretty sure it’s hurt us in terms of getting a trade done....can’t see other GMs lining up to deal with this idiot when his client has proven to this point that he isn’t even a very good player
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Pulju and his agent need to go rot in siberia |
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