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RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Jul 10 @ 11:14 AM ET
Giving Matthews a 5 year term kept his AAV below 13M. I'm ok with it. By the time he's due for a new contract, the cap will be much, much higher with the new American TV deal, the Seattle expansion and the gambling platform being a few years old. The sport is growing, and the revenues will grow with it.
- Snowman X


Hopefully you're right. But when the Hawks went through cap hell, people said the same things and the cap barely rose.
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:14 AM ET
3rd is Crosby then you have Ovechkin and Patrick Kane...oh I could do this all day.

Top 20....fixed.

- Glak18

I said 3rd on the team...JT, Marner, then Matthews
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The rebuild begins....again., PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:15 AM ET
Do you even understand how the cap works? (honest question).
- Snowman X


It was a joke dingleberry...are you that dense?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The rebuild begins....again., PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:16 AM ET
I said 3rd on the team...JT, Marner, then Matthews
- matty12345


Oh my bad...I would disagree though. He is 2nd best on the team behind Marner. The way Marner carried the team on his back you would of thought he was the one with the bum shoulder.
Snowman X
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jul 10 @ 11:18 AM ET
It was a joke dingleberry...are you that dense?
- Glak18


Ouch. You could have just said no...
mattstake
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jul 10 @ 11:18 AM ET
Offer Sheets, any day now..... Trade winds blowing, any day now...eventually the stars will align and ONE of your rumors will come to fruition, no?
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Weiner, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 10 @ 11:21 AM ET
I hope this is true.. I can’t stand how these players are playing hard ball when they are being offered generational wealth. It’s sickening! And for what? Ego? You hear ppl say, “yeah but if you were in that situation you’d do the same thing”. Actually no, most ppl wouldn’t. I’m an elite sales person who makes an incredible amount of money. There was a time when my employer and I got into a contract negotiation over what amounted to 30K in lost income. If I hadn’t agreed, it would have damaged the operation and we wouldn’t have been able to afford the support we needed. Understanding this, I made a deal to lock in a high salary but dropped my commission. I gave up 30K in commission to have a guaranteed contract and so that my company could thrive. Giving us the resources to grow even bigger. Eventually seeing me make even more money.. these damn RFA’s are just spoiled little brats! Came from rich families and are full of entitlement! If he doesn’t sign soon, I hope the Leafs trade him to the desert and he loses all that marketing money! Screw this kid! I’m very close to writing him off and never being a fan of his again!
- JKSoule


RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Weiner, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jul 10 @ 11:22 AM ET
Every time I read Ek’s comments, it’s the same losers over and over taking shots at him. If you guys think he’s full of sh*t then why are you reading it? Are you little boys victims of click bait? Ooooh poor little victims 😞 Grow up you dorks!
- JKSoule

get over it.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:22 AM ET
I said 3rd on the team...JT, Marner, then Matthews
- matty12345



Hey Barfalo fan.....
Do you actually watch hockey or just like to comment on things you are clueless about?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The rebuild begins....again., PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:24 AM ET
Ouch. You could have just said no...
- Snowman X


The statement was so exaggerated that it was impossible to miss. It has been said many many many times the cap will always continue to increase, but there comes a point that revenue is unable to keep up with the current projection of growth.

If I am not mistaken the current CBA will be expiring prior to that 5 years, which is why many young players are being instructed to get as much as possible NOW. When it does expire there will be certainly changes made that will affect the cap ceiling greatly.

Update:

The current CBA is a 10-year deal, expiring after the 2021–22 season. The NHL can choose to opt out of the CBA on September 1, 2019 (expiring in 2020).
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:32 AM ET
The statement was so exaggerated that it was impossible to miss. It has been said many many many times the cap will always continue to increase, but there comes a point that revenue is unable to keep up with the current projection of growth.

If I am not mistaken the current CBA will be expiring prior to that 5 years, which is why many young players are being instructed to get as much as possible NOW. When it does expire there will be certainly changes made that will affect the cap ceiling greatly.

Update:

- Glak18


I personally hate how teams are penalized by drafting too well. I thought this initially when Chicago had to trade talent away in order to sign Kane and Toews (2 of their own drafted players).
I think that teams should get cap relief on their own drafted players - maybe a % of the salary doesn't count against the cap...

However, most likely, players would take that cap relief and adjust their demand for more money - so no win situation.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Other than for the screw up on Laine the Leafs are making great moves. spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:33 AM ET
Nylander's value was at it's highest 2 seasons ago. The Leafs could have traded him for a legit, young, top 4 defensemen. Instead, they tried to sign him. He played hard ball and they didn't sign him until December. He was paid 7M.

His point production diminished and so has his value. 27 points last season playing next to some of the best offensive players in a league. What a fail...

His contract then screwed up negotiations with Matthews (only on a 5 year contract seems like a mistake) and now with Marner (who knows how long he will hold out for?)

- RedRevenge


true.

kneelander for seabrook
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 10 @ 11:34 AM ET
true.

kneelander for seabrook

- Tumbleweed



Didn't you hear, Chicago acquired Alex Nylander so they can flip him to Toronto for Marner (from the Chicago thread).
Snowman X
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jul 10 @ 11:35 AM ET
The statement was so exaggerated that it was impossible to miss. It has been said many many many times the cap will always continue to increase, but there comes a point that revenue is unable to keep up with the current projection of growth.

If I am not mistaken the current CBA will be expiring prior to that 5 years, which is why many young players are being instructed to get as much as possible NOW. When it does expire there will be certainly changes made that will affect the cap ceiling greatly.

Update:

- Glak18


When an expansion team comes in, that alone is a huge boost for revenues.

Add the American TV deal to grow the sport (which is going to be enormous).

Add in the new NHL gambling platform (which is going to be even more enormous).

Why do you think the other major sports caps are so high? The cap is going to increase exponentially.

As for the CBA expiring before Matthews' 5 year deal is up, that's irrelevant. I don't even know why that was brought up. My main point was simply that by the time Matthews hits pending UFA status, the cap will be so high that the Leafs will have ample room to re-sign him if they choose to.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Other than for the screw up on Laine the Leafs are making great moves. spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:39 AM ET
Didn't you hear, Chicago acquired Alex Nylander so they can flip him to Toronto for Marner (from the Chicago thread).
- Cooshie


i see my mistake. i have nylander on the wrong side of the equation.

marner for seabrook and kneelander
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The rebuild begins....again., PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:40 AM ET
I personally hate how teams are penalized by drafting too well. I thought this initially when Chicago had to trade talent away in order to sign Kane and Toews (2 of their own drafted players).
I think that teams should get cap relief on their own drafted players - maybe a % of the salary doesn't count against the cap...

However, most likely, players would take that cap relief and adjust their demand for more money - so no win situation.

- Cooshie


I wouldn't call being really bad and being lucky enough to draft the cream of the crop as drafting too well. Now teams that can sustain winning while drafting key players later in the 1st round and/or in later rounds that help the team to continue to win is drafting well.

Personally the league is heading in a bad direction by allowing teams to utilize half the cap for a handful of players and filling the rest with subpar players. Right now it is structured that older players get paid for what they did in the past while younger players are getting paid for what they might do. There needs to be a better system implemented that pays players accordingly.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 11:40 AM ET
Didn't you hear, Chicago acquired Alex Nylander so they can flip him to Toronto for Marner (from the Chicago thread).
- Cooshie

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The rebuild begins....again., PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:42 AM ET
When an expansion team comes in, that alone is a huge boost for revenues.

Add the American TV deal to grow the sport (which is going to be enormous).

Add in the new NHL gambling platform (which is going to be even more enormous).

Why do you think the other major sports caps are so high? The cap is going to increase exponentially.

As for the CBA expiring before Matthews' 5 year deal is up, that's irrelevant. I don't even know why that was brought up. My main point was simply that by the time Matthews hits pending UFA status, the cap will be so high that the Leafs will have ample room to re-sign him if they choose to.

- Snowman X


You don't know why the CBA expiration date was brought up? Are you old enough to even remember when Crosby was drafted and do you know what happened the previous year?
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Jul 10 @ 11:42 AM ET
true.

kneelander for seabrook

- Tumbleweed


Seabrook wouldn't waive to play for the Leafs

How about Crawford for Nylander??
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Other than for the screw up on Laine the Leafs are making great moves. spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:43 AM ET
When an expansion team comes in, that alone is a huge boost for revenues.

Add the American TV deal to grow the sport (which is going to be enormous).

Add in the new NHL gambling platform (which is going to be even more enormous).

Why do you think the other major sports caps are so high? The cap is going to increase exponentially.

As for the CBA expiring before Matthews' 5 year deal is up, that's irrelevant. I don't even know why that was brought up. My main point was simply that by the time Matthews hits pending UFA status, the cap will be so high that the Leafs will have ample room to re-sign him if they choose to.

- Snowman X


it's a myth that expansion directly leads to cap increases. it's really just led to escrow increases.

u.s. tv deal will be big. seattle and vegas expansion will help here.

the cap has been growing on escrow in recent years and fuelled by the cad dollar being a par with the u.s. dollar before that.

a further decline in the cad dollar could lead to a minimal cap increases in the short-term.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Other than for the screw up on Laine the Leafs are making great moves. spatso
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:44 AM ET
Seabrook wouldn't waive to play for the Leafs
- RedRevenge


thanks for ruining my life
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 10 @ 11:48 AM ET
Seabrook and his time machine wouldn't waive to play for the Leafs

How about Crawford for Nylander??

- RedRevenge

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:52 AM ET
Seabrook wouldn't waive to play for the Leafs

How about Crawford for Nylander??

- RedRevenge

Is he still playing?
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:54 AM ET
Hey Barfalo fan.....
Do you actually watch hockey or just like to comment on things you are clueless about?

- Cooshie


Umm, I watch a lot of first periods. You try watching sabres games last year. It's rough, man.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:55 AM ET
it's a myth that expansion directly leads to cap increases. it's really just led to escrow increases.

u.s. tv deal will be big. seattle and vegas expansion will help here.

the cap has been growing on escrow in recent years and fuelled by the cad dollar being a par with the u.s. dollar before that.

a further decline in the cad dollar could lead to a minimal cap increases in the short-term.

- Tumbleweed


Huh? The biggest increase in the cap in years came the summer after Vegas entered the NHL. There will be a big bust for Seattle.
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