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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: The many layers of the Alexander Nylander for Henri Jokiharju trade
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 10 @ 8:46 PM ET
You disagree?
- IndianaSabresFan

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 10 @ 8:48 PM ET
Yep, and Chicago's troubles are mostly on the South and West sides.
- Wetbandit1

Water to the East.
Hmm
4 - 3 = 1 safe side. Got it.
Savard2Secord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Round Lake, IL
Joined: 12.12.2016

Jul 10 @ 8:51 PM ET

- homiedclown


Another expansion deal...

I could write a lot about Hasek and that trade.....

What do you do with the following:

Ed Belfour - The best goalie on the planet
Jimmy Waite (8th overall pick) The future Roy...
Dominik Hasek - 28 years old and basically a weirdo with his style in which North American coaching has never seen anything like it...

You can only protect 2 of them, who do you protect? of course this is in 1992 - not in hindsight....

If Wirtz were smart he would have accepted the offer from Quebec: Lindros for Belfour, Steve Smith (and a few other pieces)... Then the Hawks retain Hasek and Waite, Hasek becomes - Hasek - and the Hawks go on to be a dynasty with Lindros & Roenick....

Didn't go down that way because Wirtz didn't want to pay $5,000,000 as part of the trade...

So yea, the fact and circumstances which caused Hasek to ended up in Buffalo is pretty insane....





homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 10 @ 8:55 PM ET

Jimmy Waite (8th overall pick) The future Roy...
...

- Savard2Secord

oh my, I did know he was picked that high


sorry, and thank you
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:01 PM ET
oh my, I did know he was picked that high


sorry, and thank you

- homiedclown

I heard he helped them win a cup.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 10 @ 9:18 PM ET
Another expansion deal...

I could write a lot about Hasek and that trade.....

What do you do with the following:

Ed Belfour - The best goalie on the planet
Jimmy Waite (8th overall pick) The future Roy...
Dominik Hasek - 28 years old and basically a weirdo with his style in which North American coaching has never seen anything like it...

You can only protect 2 of them, who do you protect? of course this is in 1992 - not in hindsight....

If Wirtz were smart he would have accepted the offer from Quebec: Lindros for Belfour, Steve Smith (and a few other pieces)... Then the Hawks retain Hasek and Waite, Hasek becomes - Hasek - and the Hawks go on to be a dynasty with Lindros & Roenick....

Didn't go down that way because Wirtz didn't want to pay $5,000,000 as part of the trade...

So yea, the fact and circumstances which caused Hasek to ended up in Buffalo is pretty insane....

- Savard2Secord



They also wanted Cristian Ruutu in a bad way and the Hasek deal with Buffalo enabled them to get him.

https://www.chicagotribun...-08-9203110447-story.html
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 10 @ 9:20 PM ET
oh my, I did know he was picked that high


sorry, and thank you

- homiedclown



They traded him to the Sharks the following summer anyways.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: What really hurts Toronto is the media. They are being paid-off by our players' agents to report non, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 10 @ 9:29 PM ET
guys, its not joki or joker. its jokesonyou. that is closer to the actual pronunciation of his name.

i hope he blows out his knee in his first practice so i can feel better about this trade.
(not really)

while most of the hawk fans on this site are penciling bustlander for top 6 duties, i am skeptical if ever makes it the NHL.
Wetbandit1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Please do not address me, quote me, provoke me or in any way reference me, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 10 @ 9:31 PM ET
Water to the East.
Hmm
4 - 3 = 1 safe side. Got it.

- IonSabres


Right, Because there's no East side to the city.

Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: What really hurts Toronto is the media. They are being paid-off by our players' agents to report non, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 10 @ 9:32 PM ET
Yep, and Chicago's troubles are mostly on the South and West sides.
- Wetbandit1

its been the same areas for the last 40 years in reality.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: What really hurts Toronto is the media. They are being paid-off by our players' agents to report non, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Jul 10 @ 9:34 PM ET
Right, Because there's no East side to the city.


- Wetbandit1

there is an east side to the city. at the very bottom of the lake. and then it becomes worse. it becomes indiana.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 10 @ 9:35 PM ET
Also, no one has brought this up in a while.

Are we actually comfortable with a Hutton/Ullmark combo for this upcoming season?

- Sabre_Tooth


Positions I'm worried about, from least to most

LW
RD
G
LD
C
RW

The RWs are worse than centers imo
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 10 @ 9:38 PM ET
Positions I'm worried about, from least to most

LW
RD
G
LD
C
RW

The RWs are worse than centers imo

- jcragcrumple


Can’t disagree with this .... cozen and mitts aren’t far away
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:38 PM ET
Positions I'm worried about, from least to most

LW
RD
G
LD
C
RW

The RWs are worse than centers imo

- jcragcrumple

I think we have two more trades coming. If they can get another top 6 winger, I am find with Mitts as the 2nd line center this year.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 10 @ 9:45 PM ET
I think we have two more trades coming. If they can get another top 6 winger, I am find with Mitts as the 2nd line center this year.
- Mentalorgasm5


They need another RW badly. Suddenly RW Sheary is in the top-6, or else mojo or Olofsson playing their off wing instead
Wetbandit1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Please do not address me, quote me, provoke me or in any way reference me, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 10 @ 9:56 PM ET
there is an east side to the city. at the very bottom of the lake. and then it becomes worse. it becomes indiana.
- Gramps28



Nightmare fuel.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:13 PM ET
They need another RW badly. Suddenly RW Sheary is in the top-6, or else mojo or Olofsson playing their off wing instead
- jcragcrumple

ATM, i think its best for olofsson to move to RW.

Skinner Eichel Olofsson (helps olofsson the most)
Johansson Mitts Reinhart (helps Mitts the most)

Hoping we get a top 6 RW still, but I dont hate this.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:13 PM ET
there is an east side to the city. at the very bottom of the lake. and then it becomes worse. it becomes indiana.
- Gramps28

I heard strange things happen there.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 10 @ 10:18 PM ET
You realize Jokiharju is probably the 2nd best Dman in our system now? Only behind Dahlin. I dont care if Nylander develops into a 65 to 70 point player (which he has a very low probability of doing) I would make this trade everyday.
- Mentalorgasm5



He’s played a handful of games. Description of him sounds like a pysk. Does everything ok, excels at nothing. Let’s not anoint him a Calder yet.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 10 @ 10:18 PM ET
I think we have two more trades coming. If they can get another top 6 winger, I am find with Mitts as the 2nd line center this year.
- Mentalorgasm5


2 more trades would be a crazy offseason. I can’t remember an off-season where a Gm made 5-6 trades.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:20 PM ET
He’s played a handful of games. Description of him sounds like a pysk. Does everything ok, excels at nothing. Let’s not anoint him a Calder yet.
- Fattony1187


He’s predicted as a Top 4 possible top pair. Nobody ever considered Piss boy to be more than an adequate NHLer.

We don’t have to prepare a parade for Joker but we can be more excited for him
Than Pysyk.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:22 PM ET
He’s played a handful of games. Description of him sounds like a pysk. Does everything ok, excels at nothing. Let’s not anoint him a Calder yet.
- Fattony1187

He is much better than Pysyk already.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:22 PM ET
2 more trades would be a crazy offseason. I can’t remember an off-season where a Gm made 5-6 trades.
- Sabretooth9

They are almost forced to though. Risto is a goner in my book.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 10 @ 10:29 PM ET
He’s predicted as a Top 4 possible top pair. Nobody ever considered Piss boy to be more than an adequate NHLer.

We don’t have to prepare a parade for Joker but we can be more excited for him
Than Pysyk.

- Der Kaiser



And nylander was projected as a top line winger. I think we always get so excited and read a scouting report saying a players high projection and think it will happen. Just saying let’s temper some expectations.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 10 @ 10:35 PM ET
And nylander was projected as a top line winger. I think we always get so excited and read a scouting report saying a players high projection and think it will happen. Just saying let’s temper some expectations.
- Fattony1187


To me he is guaranteed to be an NHL d-man. Realistic projection says #4, could be a top pair, could end up being a good #5. Regardless RHD are hard to come by and I like the move for us.
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