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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 4:01 PM ET
Somebody respond to this so I can get offended and overreact!
- Der Kaiser



jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 11 @ 4:03 PM ET
Somebody respond to this so I can get offended and overreact!
- Der Kaiser


matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:07 PM ET
Nope not moving on because according to some saying we can't afford Laine, Skinner, Eichel, Dahlin, and Reinhart all at or around 9M, Botts is a cheap mic-(frank)face. Cap shmap, tie up 45M of the 82M in 5 players, 3 of them wingers. Plan the parade gents.
- SDSabre

45mil for your top five players will be the standard in the league within 3 years.

NHL is a skating league and in turn a stars league now. GM's are way too slow to catch on. One 9 million dollar player is better than two average players.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:09 PM ET
Somebody respond to this so I can get offended and overreact!
- Der Kaiser

this is nasty.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would bet my life savings that Cody Franson would outplay Ristolainen if given 20 minutes per nigh, GA
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 11 @ 4:11 PM ET
Somebody respond to this so I can get offended and overreact!
- Der Kaiser


Olives are a food.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 11 @ 4:18 PM ET
45mil for your top five players will be the standard in the league within 3 years.

NHL is a skating league and in turn a stars league now. GM's are way too slow to catch on. One 9 million dollar player is better than two average players.

- matty12345


Is that why Laine tied for 109th in points last year. Trouba got the same amount of points as him. I'm not arguing the validity of paying your stars. I'm arguing your thought of what a star is. If you pay your top 5 players 45M, cool. What if they are middle of the pack (meaning your best is ~ top 15/20, 2nd best is ~45/55 etc.) aren't you in the same spot as you were before? I mean I would rather have the top one making 11/12 a year and the last one (where Laine sits, as your 4/5 best) at 7/8M. Because if he's not scoring he's atrocious and a 3rd liner at best.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:20 PM ET
No.
- ajb2493


Not bad
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:21 PM ET

- dadeadhead


This one made me laugh the hardest. I like the movie a lot.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:21 PM ET

- jcragcrumple


Sponge Bob irritates me and I like Risto so this is a misfire.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:22 PM ET
this is nasty.
- Mentalorgasm5


If this hails all the way back to a comment Gerbe made years ago, it's a dark horse, but you'll have to prove it.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 4:23 PM ET
This one made me laugh the hardest. I like the movie a lot.
- Der Kaiser



I prove Dean Wormer wrong everyday.

Fat, drunk, and stupid is a splendid way to go through life.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:23 PM ET
Olives are a food.
- ImThatGuy



Olives are a food. I'll give you that.

But I'm not offended and I don't feel like overreacting.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would bet my life savings that Cody Franson would outplay Ristolainen if given 20 minutes per nigh, GA
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 11 @ 4:24 PM ET
Is that why Laine tied for 109th in points last year. Trouba got the same amount of points as him. I'm not arguing the validity of paying your stars. I'm arguing your thought of what a star is. If you pay your top 5 players 45M, cool. What if they are middle of the pack (meaning your best is ~ top 15/20, 2nd best is ~45/55 etc.) aren't you in the same spot as you were before? I mean I would rather have the top one making 11/12 a year and the last one (where Laine sits, as your 4/5 best) at 7/8M. Because if he's not scoring he's atrocious and a 3rd liner at best.
- SDSabre


Laine 21 years old. Has bad season Which he still scores 30 goals. First two seasons of 35+ goals.

“Atrocious 3rd liner” almost as bad as Sobodka.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would bet my life savings that Cody Franson would outplay Ristolainen if given 20 minutes per nigh, GA
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 11 @ 4:24 PM ET
Olives are a food. I'll give you that.

But I'm not offended and I don't feel like overreacting.

- Der Kaiser


Green olives are the devil.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:25 PM ET
I prove Dean Wormer wrong everyday.

Fat, drunk, and stupid is a splendid way to go through life.

- dadeadhead


Vegetables can be very sensual, don't you think?

hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jul 11 @ 4:26 PM ET
Green olives are the devil.
- ImThatGuy


You take that back right now....

Green O-lives matter.....
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 11 @ 4:28 PM ET
Green olives are the devil.
- ImThatGuy


The devil visited the garden of eden.

Put a green olive in a glass of ketel one, rocks, and you might be very close to the same thing.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 11 @ 4:32 PM ET
Laine 21 years old. Has bad season Which he still scores 30 goals. First two seasons of 35+ goals.

“Atrocious 3rd liner” almost as bad as Sobodka.

- ImThatGuy


Take the full quote or none at all. Disingenuous at best right there. "If he's not scoring goals" was the first part of that. And yes, one bad year doesn't make or break a guy. My thought is, we have our "one trick pony" in Skinner. Let's aim for someone a little more well rounded. That's all. You wanna hitch your horse to Laine, fine, I don't disagree he's probably a good one. I would rather hold off and see if we can't find someone else. Flame away, but his time at least quote the whole sentence, or none at all.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Jul 11 @ 4:48 PM ET
If this hails all the way back to a comment Gerbe made years ago, it's a dark horse, but you'll have to prove it.
- Der Kaiser


I had a witty response to this, but it looked sleezy no matter how I phrased it. Suffice to say I know what you're referring to. I hope she and Dad are doing well.

Speaking of blasts from the past, made any schnapps lately?
NEDinED
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jul 11 @ 4:51 PM ET
So complicated trade proposal that all will probably think is poop.

I'm a fan of risto and would like to see what he does not having to play 25+ min a night. I know we just traded for Colin Miller but can he be used to bring in a 2C while we wait for mitts to develop? (I think Miller is overvalued)

Do the preds want to get out from turris contract? can he be had cheap?

-sabres trade Miller to Oilers for pulji + late pick (or something similiar with another team)
-sabres flip pulji and pick to Ottawa for 1.5mil cap retention on okoposo.
- sabres trade okoposo and another 1.5mil rentention for turris.

Would you rather have turris at 4*7.5 + 1*6
Or okoposo at 4*6 ?

Would other teams involved go for this? Who knows.
gcomella34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Endicott, NY
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jul 11 @ 4:56 PM ET
Not bad
- Der Kaiser



Going to be in your neck of the woods tomorrow for work (Rochester, right?) been all over NY, but never there.

Do you have any lunch recommendations?

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 4:59 PM ET
So complicated trade proposal that all will probably think is poop.

I'm a fan of risto and would like to see what he does not having to play 25+ min a night. I know we just traded for Colin Miller but can he be used to bring in a 2C while we wait for mitts to develop? (I think Miller is overvalued)

Do the preds want to get out from turris contract? can he be had cheap?

-sabres trade Miller to Oilers for pulji + late pick (or something similiar with another team)
-sabres flip pulji and pick to Ottawa for 1.5mil cap retention on okoposo.
- sabres trade okoposo and another 1.5mil rentention for turris.

Would you rather have turris at 4*7.5 + 1*6
Or okoposo at 4*6 ?

Would other teams involved go for this? Who knows.

- NEDinED


How are you trading Okposo twice?
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: It's totally menstrual , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 11 @ 5:01 PM ET
How are you trading Okposo twice?
- dadeadhead

Rip him in half
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 11 @ 5:03 PM ET
Somebody respond to this so I can get offended and overreact!
- Der Kaiser

SUCK IT BEADY
NEDinED
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.06.2013

Jul 11 @ 5:04 PM ET
Rip him in half
- jochfr

I think technically sabres would have to retain first and then he'd go through Ottawa then Nashville. In as many pieces as you want lol.
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