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SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 12 @ 11:20 AM ET
Apparently we just need to have Jack play with everyone so everyone will score 30-50 goals. Can one team have multiple Rocket Richard winners?
- adambuffalo

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would bet my life savings that Cody Franson would outplay Ristolainen if given 20 minutes per nigh, GA
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
So a different type of offer sheet system?
- Stripes77


Kind of, but it is not as prohibitive for the other teams.

Or do a you can sign 1 exclusive RFA once every three years.
Stripes77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
The last two years show that this new wave of GMs are getting smarter.

Who was the last 6-7 year deal other than Panarin?

Max deal is 3-4 years for UFA currently.
Mince the last of the dinosaurs are pushed out UFA is going to change drastically.

In 3-4 years UFA is going to look much much different.

- ImThatGuy


Duchene (7)
Tanev (6)
Bobrovsky (7)
Lee (7)
Skinner (8)
Hayes (7)
E Karlsson (8)
Nelson (6)
W Karlsson (8) but he was a RFA

All the others were UFA's or about to be UFA's when they re-signed with their current team
50missionCapp
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.12.2019

Jul 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
Girgs signs one year 1.6
Stripes77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 12 @ 11:23 AM ET
Girgs signs one year 1.6
- 50missionCapp



Old news...
50missionCapp
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.12.2019

Jul 12 @ 11:23 AM ET
Old news...
- Stripes77

Whoops, must have misheard the radio
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would bet my life savings that Cody Franson would outplay Ristolainen if given 20 minutes per nigh, GA
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 12 @ 11:24 AM ET
Duchene (7)
Tanev (6)
Bobrovsky (7)
Lee (7)
Skinner (8)
Hayes (7)
E Karlsson (8)
Nelson (6)
W Karlsson (8) but he was a RFA

All the others were UFA's or about to be UFA's when they resigned with their current team

- Stripes77


I’d say most of those contracts are responsible other than Bob.

(Karlsson is a great contract)
Duchene is a great contract for a 2C.


UFA is changing, do you disagree?


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:24 AM ET
They're both righties. They both go in the same spot, ideally. If you watch their highlights, they both score from the same spot. Could you do something different? Sure, but it wouldn't be what they do best. They are redundant on the PP, and PP is what Laine does best.
- jcragcrumple


Eichel can play any spot on the PP imo
and if Laine can shoot from the RW 5v5,
then i bet he could do that on the PP as well
I think you’re making WAY too big a deal about it
ajb2493
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Stamford, CT
Joined: 07.02.2015

Jul 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
I’d say most of those contracts are responsible other than Bob.

(Karlsson is a great contract)
Duchene is a great contract for a 2C.


UFA is changing, do you disagree?

- ImThatGuy


Ehhhhh.... I don't know if I would consider Hayes to be responsible.
Stripes77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
I’d say most of those contracts are responsible other than Bob.

(Karlsson is a great contract)
Duchene is a great contract for a 2C.


UFA is changing, do you disagree?

- ImThatGuy



Duchene took less to go to Nashville

Do not like the Hayes deal at all

E Karlsson's is a BAD contract based on his body

But I do agree 5-6 year deals were more the norm this time around with a bunch of 4 year deals in there too
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 12 @ 11:26 AM ET
Eichel can play any spot on the PP imo
and if Laine can shoot from the RW 5v5,
then i bet he could do that on the PP as well
I think you’re making WAY too big a deal about it

- jdfitz77


I pointed out that they currently play the same position on the PP. What you extrapolate from that information is up to you

moving on...
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would bet my life savings that Cody Franson would outplay Ristolainen if given 20 minutes per nigh, GA
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 12 @ 11:30 AM ET
Ehhhhh.... I don't know if I would consider Hayes to be responsible.
- ajb2493


Of course.
I assume the Flyers GM will be fired in ~3 years because of the hell he created there.

Again, once the “old school boys club” gms are moved out, the new wave of GMs are going to change how this league is run.

A few years ago Wayne Simmons’s is getting a 6-7 year deal, this year he got 1.

The days of Kyle Okposo contracts are few and far between imo.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would bet my life savings that Cody Franson would outplay Ristolainen if given 20 minutes per nigh, GA
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 12 @ 11:30 AM ET
Duchene took less to go to Nashville

Do not like the Hayes deal at all

E Karlsson's is a BAD contract based on his body

But I do agree 5-6 year deals were more the norm this time around with a bunch of 4 year deals in there too

- Stripes77



Wild Bill not Erik. Erik is bad, can’t believe he got that.
Stripes77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 12 @ 11:31 AM ET
Wild Bill not Erik. Erik is bad, can’t believe he got that.
- ImThatGuy



Wild Bill is a steal of a deal
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
Wild Bill not Erik. Erik is bad, can’t believe he got that.
- ImThatGuy

willy's contract is a "hometown" discount type deal
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would bet my life savings that Cody Franson would outplay Ristolainen if given 20 minutes per nigh, GA
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 12 @ 11:35 AM ET
Changes I would like to see.

Current club can offer max 7 year. New club max offer 5.

Opt out clauses with 2 years remaining for club, 1 year remaining for player.
This does not apply to ELCs

If player ops out goes into new bucket of exclusive rights RFA

If signed by new club, new team forfeits two first round picks or old players club choice of prospect and a 2nd rd pick.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
I would think the upcoming expansion draft and the expiring CBA had a lot of influence on this year's free agency.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
willy's contract is a "hometown" discount type deal
- SabresFaninIndiana


I think you are going to see that more and more with Vegas. The team is already insanely popular over there. It's a destination for obvious reasons, and even the people that live there absolutely love it because out-of-towners rarely go off the Strip, which is great for privacy.
Stripes77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 12 @ 11:38 AM ET
I think you are going to see that more and more with Vegas. The team is already insanely popular over there. It's a destination for obvious reasons, and even the people that live there absolutely love it because out-of-towners rarely go off the Strip, which is great for privacy.
- buffalofan19



And they're built to be a playoff team for the next 5 years easily
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jul 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
Changes I would like to see.

Current club can offer max 7 year. New club max offer 5.

Opt out clauses with 2 years remaining for club, 1 year remaining for player.
This does not apply to ELCs

If player ops out goes into new bucket of exclusive rights RFA

If signed by new club, new team forfeits two first round picks or old players club choice of prospect and a 2nd rd pick.

- ImThatGuy


I like this but wouldn't you be concerned this leads to more bad contracts like Okposo since it would give the GMs a sort of "oops, my bad" card later?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would bet my life savings that Cody Franson would outplay Ristolainen if given 20 minutes per nigh, GA
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
I like this but wouldn't you be concerned this leads to more bad contracts like Okposo since it would give the GMs a sort of "oops, my bad" card later?
- Phatjohnsn


Put a cap or a 2nd rd draft pick forfeiture on a club opt out?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would pick Heiskanen and Provorov over Dahlin. But still not in my top 10. - MaximusAurelius, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
Larry 1.55/1yr

A 5% raise.
ajb2493
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Stamford, CT
Joined: 07.02.2015

Jul 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
Larry 1.55/1yr
- TheSabresTaco


So no raise.... Good. I still don't know what they are gonna do with all of these forwards.
Stripes77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
Larsson signed 1 year $1.55 million
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
I would think the upcoming expansion draft and the expiring CBA had a lot of influence on this year's free agency.
- adambuffalo


The early contracts signed were based / assumptions that the salary cap was going to go up.

Some of the signing during free agency reflect the no cap change and not as high as expected.
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