Per the CBA you can not put a guy on LTIR until the season starts. They have to shed Clarkson’s cap hit for a day.
- dadeadhead

Teams figure that out pretty much every year though
Idk of there’s some kind of loophole
Or of the nhl just doesn’t penalize them for the day when it’s clear what the team’s intentions are

Ya, I had to laugh at that "high price" comment.
Not that he has established his high price, but the fact he is again puting a high price in view of Kane and ROR where the returns was rather ordinary.
As you know well the lust price and the actual price are different.

Smith is decent and IMO would be great with Jack and Skinner...doing the dirty work so they profit while he can pot 20/25 himself o. A reasonable contract for 3 years.
- IonSabres

I think he’d be a good fit too
Idk why Vegas would move him though...

Can’t they just give Reeves or Eakin or whoever away for a pick to get under?

Josh Scott opens up the story about him and kessel in that preseason game in Toronto. Pretty funny story.

https://youtu.be/lx0UgoN48BQ

Teams figure that out pretty much every year though
Idk of there’s some kind of loophole
Or of the nhl just doesn’t penalize them for the day when it’s clear what the team’s intentions are
- jdfitz77

They figure it out by moving guys on the cheap leading up to the season.

See Leddy and Boychuk

I'd rather continue to discuss the fiction that is the Ristolainen for Nugent-Hopkins trade from the guy with The Hockey News subscription.

I'd rather continue to discuss the fiction that is the Ristolainen for Nugent-Hopkins trade from the guy with The Hockey News subscription.
- buffalofan19

I have Amazon Prime so I'm pretty much "in the know" also.

What’s up you sh!theeled sock cucker?
- dadeadhead

I'm doing absolutely marvelous and I really can't complain about anything today.

I'd rather continue to discuss the fiction that is the Ristolainen for Nugent-Hopkins trade from the guy with The Hockey News subscription.
- buffalofan19

Great idea 19, good job.

Per the CBA you can not put a guy on LTIR until the season starts. They have to shed Clarkson’s cap hit for a day.
- dadeadhead

Ok
Day 1 trade, Smith + Eakin for Tage, 2020-5th + future consideration, saves $8.9m to become Cap Compliant.
Day 2, Clarkson on LTIR
Day 2 trade, Risto as fulfillment of future considerations

Great idea 19, good job.
- mhp

Oh so your everyone gets a trophy guy now huh.

First and first. One hour. Bring a trophy.

😂😂😂


Cyclone Larry?
- Powerslave

Excellent idea PS, good job. He'll look good down there with Jonas and Glotov.

Oh so your everyone gets a trophy guy now huh.

First and first. One hour. Bring a trophy wife.
- ImThatGuy

fixed for cucks

Oh so your everyone gets a trophy guy now huh.

First and first. One hour. Bring a trophy.
- ImThatGuy

This is the best post I have seen in the last 3 minutes. Good job Guy!

Josh Scott opens up the story about him and kessel in that preseason game in Toronto. Pretty funny story.

https://youtu.be/lx0UgoN48BQ
- Sabre_Tooth

They figure it out by moving guys on the cheap leading up to the season.

See Leddy and Boychuk
- dadeadhead

Right
But i don’t think it’s like you’re saying it

The salaries/Cap hits are prorated
So having Clarkson on the books for 1 day doesn’t actually put Vegas over the Cap if they have a little room

Divide that 5.25mil by the total number of days in the season
That’s how much he’d actually cost against their Cap (or something like that)

The NHL basically lets them get away with it
Vegas does not need to be 5.25mil under the Cap when the season starts

Great idea 19, good job.
- mhp

Can you imagine? With Nugent-Hopkins, they would have 2 #1 overall draft picks, and two #2 overall draft picks. Then they really would be the "Edmonton of the East".

Ok
Day 1 trade, Smith + Eakin for Tage, 2020-5th + future consideration, saves $8.9m to become Cap Compliant.
Day 2, Clarkson on LTIR
Day 2 trade, Risto as fulfillment of future considerations
- IonSabres

I’d rather just take Gusev off their hands
Wasn’t the asking price only a 2nd?
Done deal

Then we can still trade Risto for Ehlers or whoever

Right
But i don’t think it’s like you’re saying it

The salaries/Cap hits are prorated though
So having Clarkson on the books for 1 day doesn’t actually put Vegas over the Cap if they have a little rom

Divide that 5.25mil by the total number of days in the season
That’s how much he’d actually cost against their Cap

The NHL basically lets them get away with it
Vegas does not need to be 5.25mil under the Cap when the season starts
- jdfitz77

Jesus Christ you just like to argue.

Ok smart ass.

Take the salary cap and divide it by 185 there’s you daily cap.

Now do the same for Clarkson’s cap hit.

It’s the same thing dipsh!t. Especially because they have little to no wiggle room.


You use to bring so much more to the table.

Jesus Christ you just like to argue.

Ok smart ass.

Take the salary cap and divide it by 185 there’s you daily cap.

Now do the same for Clarkson’s cap hit.

It’s the same thing dipsh!t. Especially because they have little to no wiggle room.


You use to bring so much more to the table.
- dadeadhead

Harsh, but fair.

Jesus Christ you just like to argue.

Ok smart ass.

Take the salary cap and divide it by 185 there’s you daily cap.

Now do the same for Clarkson’s cap hit.

It’s the same thing dipsh!t. Especially because they have little to no wiggle room.


You use to bring so much more to the table.
- dadeadhead

What I’m saying is that the NHL doesn’t penalize them for having Clarkson on the books for a day

It seems like you’re saying Vegas has to be 5.25mil under the Cap to start the season
But that’s not true
It’s only a fraction of Clarkson’s hit that they need to worry about
And it doesn’t have to be figured out day1

They just have to make sure they don’t exceed the Cap by the end of the year
And I’m sure at some point they’d have a guy they can put on IR that would cover it

There isn’t a “daily Cap hit”
It’s season long & cumulative
Teams just have to make sure they don’t exceed it by the end of the season to my understanding

I’m not being a smart ass
I’m simply saying that Clarkson’s Cap Hit is not a factor for them like it seems you’re saying

Ok
Day 1 trade, Smith + Eakin for Tage, 2020-5th + future consideration, saves $8.9m to become Cap Compliant.
Day 2, Clarkson on LTIR
Day 2 trade, Risto as fulfillment of future considerations
- IonSabres

Doesn't that then put the Sabres over the cap for that day?

Per the CBA you can not put a guy on LTIR until the season starts. They have to shed Clarkson’s cap hit for a day.
- dadeadhead

That's not true. There is off-season LTIR, with different relief formula. You get less relief, so it's much less common to use.

What I’m saying is that the NHL doesn’t penalize them for having Clarkson on the books for a day

It seems like you’re saying Vegas has to be 5.25mil under the Cap to start the season
But that’s not true
It’s only a fraction of Clarkson’s hit that they need to worry about
And it doesn’t have to be figured out day1

They just have to make sure they don’t exceed the Cap by the end of the year
And I’m sure at some point they’d have a guy they can put on IR that would cover it

I’m not being a smart ass
I’m simply saying that Clarkson’s Cap Hit is not a factor for them like it seems you’re saying
- jdfitz77

They have to be at his daily cap hit but being as though it’s day 1. The team hasn’t been able to accumulate cap space.

I don't have an MBA or an accounting degree, but reading about daily accrued cap hits is more boring than watching U15 shot put

That's not true. There is off-season LTIR, with different relief formula. You get less relief, so it's much less common to use.
- Lunaion

Can't LTIR until day one of the season unless they’ve changed the CBA since the last agreement.