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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: The many layers of the Alexander Nylander for Henri Jokiharju trade
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lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
I agree, I would hate the Johansson deal if it was like for 5 years. I would stomach it at 3 years, but at 2 years, its a great move.

Skinner is slightly overpaid, who cares though, we couldnt have let him go.

Ive become a Botts fan because of his last 3 moves (Miller trade, Johansson signing, and the unbelievable Jokiharju trade)

- Mentalorgasm5


He is exactly what we needed. Rational, calculating, does not adhere to the pressure to spend poorly. ROR is over and done. Really, in the grand scheme of things, that deal
would have been fine had Berglund not sh*t the bed. Who would have guessed they would win the cup and we got at 31st? No one
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jul 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
Nelson
- TheSabresTaco



I think he’s actually a good trade chip. A team might want him as their bottom pair. I think bogo can fetch a late rd pick too.

Very happy with Botts offseason. He needed a good draft/offseason and I think he has done really well. Good young players in pipeline. Two whales in Eichel/dahlin on the team with some really nice secondary players. Maybe we will be good again!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
I don't know what the Flames need.
- thatsapickle


Cam Talbot and Mark Jankowski for Carter Hutton
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 10 @ 1:12 PM ET

Stan Bowman has ALWAYS been infatuated with skill guys so he must really like the shot and offensive potential of Nylander in the Hawks top 6. Can he be a Right-Shot Left wing and be Panarin-lite with Kane? Then it would be a win win for both teams.

- EnzoD


He's spent almost all his time playing LW, but there's just no comparison to Panarin. He doesn't have that type of play making skill. He's a shooter.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Just t3xted sabres going with chiquorin-buffalo39, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
He is exactly what we needed. Rational, calculating, does not adhere to the pressure to spend poorly. ROR is over and done. Really, in the grand scheme of things, that deal
would have been fine had Berglund not sh*t the bed. Who would have guessed they would win the cup and we got at 31st? No one

- lulags

The only thing that worries me, they might try him at center. At the moment with this roster, Casey is the 2nd line center.

And that really doesnt bother me if he has Johansson and Reinhart as his wingers.

I am excited for the upcoming season. They move Bogo and Scandella, I am counting down the days until the season starts.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
I think he’s actually a good trade chip. A team might want him as their bottom pair. I think bogo can fetch a late rd pick too.

Very happy with Botts offseason. He needed a good draft/offseason and I think he has done really well. Good young players in pipeline. Two whales in Eichel/dahlin on the team with some really nice secondary players. Maybe we will be good again!

- Fattony1187


Would you trade for an injured Bogo? At that salary? It just doesn't seem likely to me.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
Cam Talbot and Mark Jankowski for Carter Hutton
- jcragcrumple

as much as i feel carter is not the answer in net that is a huge drop to go with talbot and ullmark..

give them nelson, bogo, hunwick and a 2nd
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
Would you trade for an injured Bogo? At that salary? It just doesn't seem likely to me.
- Lunaion

yes.. every GM wants a Bogo.. even if he is injured.
BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

Jul 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
Yeah, I thought there might be an avenue before they signed Myers. My thought was Risto, Nylander and a 2nd
- jcragcrumple



Yes. The canucks would make that deal in a second. Who wouldn’t want the overpaid Finn, a likely 1st round bust and a second rounder for one of the best young scorers in the NHL.
The Sabres are not in cap hell yet but if/when their young players pan out, they’ll be up against it too.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 10 @ 1:17 PM ET
Yes. The canucks would make that deal in a second. Who wouldn’t want the overpaid Finn, a likely 1st round bust and a second rounder for one of the best young scorers in the NHL.
The Sabres are not in cap hell yet but if/when their young players pan out, they’ll be up against it too.

- BernardShakey


Not our problem anymore

Also, they just paid Tyler Myers $6m, so let's pump the brakes on them making good decisions
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jul 10 @ 1:19 PM ET
He is exactly what we needed. Rational, calculating, does not adhere to the pressure to spend poorly. ROR is over and done. Really, in the grand scheme of things, that deal
would have been fine had Berglund not sh*t the bed. Who would have guessed they would win the cup and we got at 31st? No one

- lulags

I’m pretty sure Pegulaville kept saying the Blues were gonna win it all, due primarily to ROR.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would pick Heiskanen and Provorov over Dahlin. But still not in my top 10. - MaximusAurelius, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:22 PM ET
Not our problem anymore

Also, they just paid Tyler Myers $6m dollars, so let's pump the brakes on them making good decisions

- jcragcrumple


I bet they bought Myers cause Risto was too expensive.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 10 @ 1:24 PM ET
Yes. The canucks would make that deal in a second. Who wouldn’t want the overpaid Finn, a likely 1st round bust and a second rounder for one of the best young scorers in the NHL.
The Sabres are not in cap hell yet but if/when their young players pan out, they’ll be up against it too.

- BernardShakey


Chicago

Did Marner take that "hometown discount" 8M contract yet?
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:25 PM ET
Wants to go to Chi, waiting for them to move celery. At least that's the word on first and first with that gnarly hoorah
- SDSabre


Sure hope they move salary and not celery.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would pick Heiskanen and Provorov over Dahlin. But still not in my top 10. - MaximusAurelius, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:25 PM ET
Chicago

Did Marner take that "hometown discount" 8M contract yet?

- RhinoFan


Dubas is the smartest man on Earth, he'll bamboozle Marner to take a 1Mx8 year deal
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would pick Heiskanen and Provorov over Dahlin. But still not in my top 10. - MaximusAurelius, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:26 PM ET
Sure hope they move salary and not celery.
- BlackhawkMike


it's a longstanding joke here. Why move salary when you can move celery??
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 10 @ 1:27 PM ET
I’m pretty sure Pegulaville kept saying the Blues were gonna win it all, due primarily to ROR.
- PrinceChill

Not in December. I said the blues were going to win it all in March/April. I sure as hell did not think they would mmake the playoffs in Nov/dec
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jul 10 @ 1:29 PM ET
it's a longstanding joke here. Why move salary when you can move celery??
- TheSabresTaco



Celery is easier to move.

It's mostly water.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
Dubas is the smartest man on Earth, he'll bamboozle Marner to take a 1Mx8 year deal
- TheSabresTaco


Leaf Fan Twitter has been fire this summer about it.

I'll laugh through next summer too. Sounds good to me.

"Mitch is greedy piece of poop"
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
He is exactly what we needed. Rational, calculating, does not adhere to the pressure to spend poorly. ROR is over and done. Really, in the grand scheme of things, that deal
would have been fine had Berglund not sh*t the bed. Who would have guessed they would win the cup and we got at 31st? No one

- lulags


But
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would pick Heiskanen and Provorov over Dahlin. But still not in my top 10. - MaximusAurelius, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
Leaf Fan Twitter has been fire this summer about it.

I'll laugh through next summer too. Sounds good to me.

"Mitch is greedy piece of poop"

- RhinoFan


Paul Marner is the antichrist I think
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
Give it to me straight Doc, is Joker good at hockey?
- RhinoFan


You bet he is Mr RhinoFan. You got a solid player.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 10 @ 1:35 PM ET
Sure hope they move salary and not celery.
- BlackhawkMike


What if I told you you could clear space by moving just celery. Would you do it? What will you dip in ranch? What will be the sides with Wings? What will happen to all the peanut butter dips? What about all the soups. Think of the farmers. There are a lot of ramifications to moving it. So think long and hard which you prefer to move.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 10 @ 1:36 PM ET
we traded a wild card for a joker
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 10 @ 1:36 PM ET
What if I told you you could clear space by moving just celery. Would you do it? What will you dip in ranch? What will be the sides with Wings? What will happen to all the peanut butter dips? What about all the soups. Think of the farmers. There are a lot of ramifications to moving it. So think long and hard which you prefer to move.
- SDSabre


If they are like this its a tough decision:

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