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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:16 PM ET
It would have to be more than Joulevi coming back. Leafs gave up a first for one year of Marleau. And there are still Leaf fans waving the Dubas flag. Four guys making ten mil and eleven players barely over the minimum. And Barrie wants 8M to extend or he goes UFA. Unbelievable. Leafs were looking good before Tavares signing. I was starting to worry they might actually win a cup. No longer
- Hardbalz



Cool story bro. Cant wait for the sequel where the Habs win the cup and those 4 guys all retire on the Leafs.
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: you're playing a dangerous game, mrpeanut, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 10 @ 9:31 PM ET
I miss kicksave so much
Pickle
Joined: 04.24.2011

Jul 10 @ 9:32 PM ET
Someone sounds super pissy. Thanks for making Waddell’s Summer easy. $21M is a drop in the bucket for TD. The guy makes that in a month from just TopGolf.

Focus on developing your own players instead of OSing, then maybe your GM and the entire organization wouldn’t be looking like an asshat right now.

- FinnGod

The_Price_is_right
Montreal Canadiens
Location: question what did u give up fo
Joined: 09.08.2008

Jul 10 @ 10:25 PM ET
Leafs being Leafs. They will never win cup under Dubas
mr.peanut
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: you're playing a dangerous game, mrpeanut, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jul 10 @ 10:30 PM ET
Leafs being Leafs. They will never win cup under Dubas
- The_Price_is_right

Will you quit hb if they do?
Liger4
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.12.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:13 PM ET
You realize this league is based on competition right? And if he saw an opportunity to try and take advantage of one of the league's sh!tiest franchises, so be it.... this is the NHL, where the big boys play, you wanna cry more about your b!tch franchise getting bullied? You belong in the AHL!!


You realize you're talking about team that had a good playoff run while the Habs did not make the play offs yes?
The so called 'opportunity" was a joke... as if Carolina wasn't going to match that offer... a total waste of time and effort on MB's part.
i'm no Carolina fan, but the offer sheet tendered was total BS and was never going to work... so cultivate those prospects, and accumulate more picks like all of the other goods teams have had to do, and hopefully the Canadiens aren't a 'female dog franchise' for too much longer...
Liger4
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.12.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:15 PM ET
Leafs being Leafs. They will never win cup under Dubas
- The_Price_is_right

Says the guy cheering for a team with one of the worst GM's in the league...
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Darksydalla - Proud Member of EEPFL Laughing Stock, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jul 11 @ 12:08 AM ET
Says the guy cheering for a team with one of the worst GM's in the league...
- Liger4

He hasn't been amazing, no... But he's far, FAR from the worst. He's made some solid, bold moves, including the offer sheet. It was a risk, sure, but it was a calculated one. He wasn't going to overpay any UFAs, so, knowing the reluctance of Carolina to pay Aho a decent contract, he tried. It didn't work. Oh well. Now when Aho is UFA, he may just remember that in the end, it was OUR team that got him a deal he liked, not yours. Again, a risk, but we've done nothing here but get in the good graces of a great player. Unlike yours. What did we lose? Nothing. Only gained respect of a player. I'll take it.
Komisaurus Rex
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 6ixside, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Jul 11 @ 12:23 AM ET
Someone sounds super pissy. Thanks for making Waddell’s Summer easy. $21M is a drop in the bucket for TD. The guy makes that in a month from just TopGolf.

Focus on developing your own players instead of OSing, then maybe your GM and the entire organization wouldn’t be looking like an asshat right now.

- FinnGod


DumDum is a terrible business man, just look at his track record most notably with the AAF. Such a great investment he tried to plea victim in a lawsuit to get his money back

That franchise will be folded up and moved elsewhere within the next couple years. I'm sure Aho will warm up to the poutine in Quebec City
Komisaurus Rex
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 6ixside, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Jul 11 @ 12:55 AM ET
Will you quit hb if they do?
- mr.peanut


I will delete my account if Dumbazz wins a Cup with the Queefs
ChonDerry
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Jul 11 @ 12:56 AM ET
DumDum is a terrible business man, just look at his track record most notably with the AAF. Such a great investment he tried to plea victim in a lawsuit to get his money back

That franchise will be folded up and moved elsewhere within the next couple years. I'm sure Aho will warm up to the poutine in Quebec City

- Komisaurus Rex



You trust ButtMan to a) relocate a precious US team when Phoenizona has been awful financially for years and then b) relocate said team to a Canadian market instead of trying out some brainwave idea of "Hey, they need a team in Nawleans, call themselves Da Crawdaddies"
QuickSCF
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.11.2014

Jul 11 @ 1:23 AM ET
He hasn't been amazing, no... But he's far, FAR from the worst. He's made some solid, bold moves, including the offer sheet. It was a risk, sure, but it was a calculated one. He wasn't going to overpay any UFAs, so, knowing the reluctance of Carolina to pay Aho a decent contract, he tried. It didn't work. Oh well. Now when Aho is UFA, he may just remember that in the end, it was OUR team that got him a deal he liked, not yours. Again, a risk, but we've done nothing here but get in the good graces of a great player. Unlike yours. What did we lose? Nothing. Only gained respect of a player. I'll take it.
- Darksyde


And also gained the respect of other GMs across the league for trying to rip off that bumhole owner in Carolina LOL Rumor is that the rest of GMs thought it was funny and if Bergevin didn’t do it then someone else would. Even Tallon came out and said so.

Looks good on the morons for rubbing wins into everyone else’s faces this year. Those celebrations were something like a bunch of 8 year olds would do. Can’t wait until they move to Quebec.

Way to go Bergevin!!


QuickSCF
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.11.2014

Jul 11 @ 1:25 AM ET
Bergevin trying to steal Aho and heat up the upcoming Hab/Nordiques rivalry. You sly sly man
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jul 11 @ 6:49 AM ET
No way Habs should persue Gardiner. He is one-dimensional, horrible in his own end. And even if you paired him with s defensive stud, I think Gardiner will want BIG $$$, maybe 6million or 7 million a year, and he will want TERM...6 or 7 years likely. THAT is the biggest draw-back if the Habs are looking forward. The Habs likely are Not a Top 8 team in the east. They won't beat any of the top 3 in the Division...Boston, TB and Leafs are going to be Top 3. So only two WC spots available. NYR and Devils vastly improved, Panthers as well. A wild card spot is far from a sure thing....and quite likely less than a 50/50 proposition.

They are better off holding Cap space, or using it on One and Two year contracts. And getting themselves in position for 2-3 years down the road.

In no way will Gardiner be a difference maker to get them to the playoffs this year...and would be an anchor of a contract going forward. (Us Hawks fans know about anchor contracts....Seabrook...sigh)
Not_Yan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 11 @ 7:28 AM ET
Oh my
So much hostility in this thread
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jul 11 @ 7:38 AM ET
Oh my
So much hostility in this thread

- Not_Yan


It's all because of that big mean bully Bergevin
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me, QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 11 @ 8:05 AM ET
Oh my
So much hostility in this thread

- Not_Yan


I <3 you.
Not_Yan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 11 @ 8:07 AM ET
No way Habs should persue Gardiner. He is one-dimensional, horrible in his own end. And even if you paired him with s defensive stud, I think Gardiner will want BIG $$$, maybe 6million or 7 million a year, and he will want TERM...6 or 7 years likely. THAT is the biggest draw-back if the Habs are looking forward. The Habs likely are Not a Top 8 team in the east. They won't beat any of the top 3 in the Division...Boston, TB and Leafs are going to be Top 3. So only two WC spots available. NYR and Devils vastly improved, Panthers as well. A wild card spot is far from a sure thing....and quite likely less than a 50/50 proposition.

They are better off holding Cap space, or using it on One and Two year contracts. And getting themselves in position for 2-3 years down the road.

In no way will Gardiner be a difference maker to get them to the playoffs this year...and would be an anchor of a contract going forward. (Us Hawks fans know about anchor contracts....Seabrook...sigh)

- hawk35


I was all for Gardiner, but the fact that he still haven't signed, and reading a lot on him lately, made me sour a bit. I would still add him for 3-4 years just for the purpose of boosting the PP, but not at 7M/per.
Not_Yan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 11 @ 8:07 AM ET
I <3 you.
- BashCH


BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me, QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 11 @ 8:08 AM ET


You realize you're talking about team that had a good playoff run while the Habs did not make the play offs yes?
The so called 'opportunity" was a joke... as if Carolina wasn't going to match that offer... a total waste of time and effort on MB's part.
i'm no Carolina fan, but the offer sheet tendered was total BS and was never going to work... so cultivate those prospects, and accumulate more picks like all of the other goods teams have had to do, and hopefully the Canadiens aren't a 'female dog franchise' for too much longer...

- Liger4


Btw, A playoff run means you get past at least one round...
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 11 @ 8:09 AM ET
Leafs being Leafs. They will never win cup under Dubas
- The_Price_is_right


And Montreal has an amazing GM right now.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me, QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 11 @ 8:10 AM ET
I was all for Gardiner, but the fact that he still haven't signed, and reading a lot on him lately, made me sour a bit. I would still add him for 3-4 years just for the purpose of boosting the PP, but not at 7M/per.
- Not_Yan


IMO, if the Habs really wanted to sign Gardiner they wouldn't have signed Chiarot.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jul 11 @ 8:11 AM ET
And Montreal has an amazing GM right now.
- RogerRoeper


At least he's not trading 1st round picks just to shed bad contracts
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me, QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 11 @ 8:12 AM ET
And Montreal has an amazing GM right now.
- RogerRoeper


He's not as bad as some make him out to be. You just never know if his next move will be brillant or stupid.
Not_Yan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 11 @ 8:12 AM ET
And Montreal has an amazing GM right now.
- RogerRoeper


Oh it's that ultra-defensive leaf fan whiner again. Are are you sir?
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