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Tyler Cameron
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 11 @ 8:24 PM ET
In my case you're preaching to the choir. I think Saad is gone before his NTC kicks in July 1, 2020.

Don't think Murphy will be gone either. Remember in two summers Hawks have to expose a D in the draft who is under contract for 21/22. Right now Keith, Seabs, Murphy , Maatta, DeHaan fit the bill. Assuming 2 and 7 don't waive their NMC, two of the latter 3 will be exposed and one possibly lost. If Murphy moved before hand, two of the veteran "younger" defenseman will be lost. Don't think in a couple of years the Hawks will want to depend on two aging defensemen Keith and Seabs, and 3 or 4 newbies.

- boilermaker100


Oh, nice catch. I didn't know he had a mod-NTC in his last season.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:39 PM ET
Simple solution - Seabrok retires as a player and gets hired as an assistant coach at $6.875M for 5 years. Bettman will never figure it out.
- RickJ

I'm sure there's some rule against this, but looking at his contract, if he retires to coaching after his bonus on 7/1/20, he's only owed about $16M over the last 4 years.
wonthecup10
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Joined: 02.05.2008

Jul 11 @ 8:48 PM ET
Let’s see, Joki traded, schmaltz traded,Kahun traded, when they see Kublick is a bust he’ll be gone too. But yet he’s penciled in as a replacement for Marion Hossa Or whatever.
At least Bowman doesn’t like any grass grow under his feet when it comes to some of these players and attachments.
And Brent Seabrook is not going anywhere other than to finish out his contract as a member of the Chicago Blackhawks. All of these off-the-wall suggestions about long-term IR i,retire and become assistant coach are way out there. Stan went out and got two defenseman to complement these guys instead of sticking them with a bunch of club foots and experiments. Last defenseman to wear number seven at 34 years old still had another 7 to 8 good years of productivity. Because he was surrounded by other personel and put in a position to succeed. I think that is Bowman’s plan with Brent Seabrook.
And I got a funny feeling that Gus wil wear on Colliton and Mark Crawford with his boneheaded plays This season. Especially with a bunch of these other prospects pretty close. Still would not be surprised to see him gone some point. The minute his agent asks for five Mil a year plus.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jul 11 @ 8:51 PM ET
I'm sure there's some rule against this, but looking at his contract, if he retires to coaching after his bonus on 7/1/20, he's only owed about $16M over the last 4 years.
- tvetter

The NBA would sign off on it. Players make the rules in that league.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:55 PM ET
The NBA would sign off on it. Players make the rules in that league.
- RickJ

Right?!
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 11 @ 8:59 PM ET
Oh, nice catch. I didn't know he had a mod-NTC in his last season.
- Tyler Cameron


I didn't realize it earlier until someone mentioned it a few days ago. It's not really evident on capfriendly unless you bore down in the Saad page.
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 11 @ 9:00 PM ET
Oh, nice catch. I didn't know he had a mod-NTC in his last season.
- Tyler Cameron

Tyler a friend and I at were talking about this trade and why? Could the expansion draft have something to do with this trade? Would joki have to be exposed in the draft and nylander would be protected because of jis rfa status?
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jul 11 @ 9:21 PM ET
Tyler a friend and I at were talking about this trade and why? Could the expansion draft have something to do with this trade? Would joki have to be exposed in the draft and nylander would be protected because of jis rfa status?
- Scott1977

Tha AHL counts as a pro league, so they would both need to be protected.
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Jul 11 @ 9:27 PM ET
Didn't know that not only does the top scorer get a special jersey, but also wears a different helmet color.
- LAHawk

Why be a target?
Tyler Cameron
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 11 @ 9:34 PM ET
Tyler a friend and I at were talking about this trade and why? Could the expansion draft have something to do with this trade? Would joki have to be exposed in the draft and nylander would be protected because of jis rfa status?
- Scott1977


I thought about this originally in my confused, instant reaction, however, I don't believe this had any effect on the trade.
Sn1362
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.10.2014

Jul 11 @ 9:44 PM ET
Tanner is talking out of his ass again!
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Jul 11 @ 9:46 PM ET
More from Powers:

Now for some other notes.

1. As for Boqvist, it’s sounding more likely he starts next season in the AHL rather than returning to the OHL. The London Knights recently announced two defensemen signings, and some believe it’s an indication Boqvist isn’t returning.

2. The Blackhawks and Brendan Perlini are supposed to continue negotiations next week, according to a source. The two sides haven’t talked much so far.

- walleyeb1


Alex Vlasic happens to be Londons property if he plays in the O.
Scott1977
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Jul 11 @ 10:03 PM ET
Tha AHL counts as a pro league, so they would both need to be protected.
- tvetter

Ok wasn't sure thats me and friend were talking about.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 11 @ 10:19 PM ET
Interesting tweet by Powers regarding the possibility of Mitchell changing his mind about signing with the Hawks instead of returning to college.

I wouldn't doubt that Mitchell's decision to go back to college next season was part of the calculus in Stan's decision to trade Joki. He had to consider that Mitchell saw the log jam at RD and may have started thinking about playing two more years in college and reaching free agency. From Mitchell's perspective - if he probably wasn't going to make his way onto the Hawks roster in the next couple years - he may as well stay in college and get to pick a team that could offer him a better opportunity.

Stan would have had to see that possibility and if he, Kelly and the team's talent evaluators assessed Mitchell and Joki to be fairly even in terms of projected ceiling - then why not trade Joki and get something for him and at the same time show Mitchell they are clearing a path for him. In other words - this way they end up with Mitchell and Nylander rather than only Joki because they would lose Mitchell if Joki were still on the team.
Thoroldbhawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , ON
Joined: 02.03.2017

Jul 11 @ 10:31 PM ET
Tyler go check out the post James Tanner just put up. Please. what the Eff is wrong with this guy? Major Hawk hate from what i can tell.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 11 @ 10:41 PM ET
I'm sure there's some rule against this, but looking at his contract, if he retires to coaching after his bonus on 7/1/20, he's only owed about $16M over the last 4 years.
- tvetter


Got me thinking, are post 2013 CBA contracts subject to the same cap recapture penalty as pre 2013 CBA contracts?
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 11 @ 10:43 PM ET
I would encourage everyone to go to Tanner’s latest blog and report (flag) the very first comment (the one by Tanner that summarizes the thread) because it’s quite possibly the most offensively stupid blog ever posted on HB...and that’s saying something.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:56 PM ET
Got me thinking, are post 2013 CBA contracts subject to the same cap recapture penalty as pre 2013 CBA contracts?
- walleyeb1

No. The recapture penalty only applies to contracts signed before the 2013 CBA.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 11 @ 11:14 PM ET
Tyler go check out the post James Tanner just put up. Please. what the Eff is wrong with this guy? Major Hawk hate from what i can tell.
- Thoroldbhawks


I just read first few paragraphs. What a ......

What made me mad was he firmly believes that the Hawks are a lottery team. Clearly he doesn't study what Hawks changes for next year n

Hey Tyler at EK next Xmas party for the.bloggers. Can you wedgy Tanner for us. Ha!!!

We are very fortunate to have you as our Hawks blogger.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 11 @ 11:15 PM ET
I would encourage everyone to go to Tanner’s latest blog and report (flag) the very first comment (the one by Tanner that summarizes the thread) because it’s quite possibly the most offensively stupid blog ever posted on HB...and that’s saying something.
- Ogilthorpe2


Hahaha what a moron
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 11 @ 11:19 PM ET
Hahaha what a moron
- BetweenTheDots


I concur
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 11 @ 11:19 PM ET
I just read first few paragraphs. What a ......

What made me mad was he firmly believes that the Hawks are a lottery team. Clearly he doesn't study what Hawks changes for next year n

Hey Tyler at EK next Xmas party for the.bloggers. Can you wedgy Tanner for us. Ha!!!

We are very fortunate to have you as our Hawks blogger.

- glennjpawlak22


I think it reveals his lack of vision, remember when he thought Rundblad was one of the Hawks best defenseman
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 11 @ 11:19 PM ET
I would encourage everyone to go to Tanner’s latest blog and report (flag) the very first comment (the one by Tanner that summarizes the thread) because it’s quite possibly the most offensively stupid blog ever posted on HB...and that’s saying something.
- Ogilthorpe2


Okay, so I'm going ahead with this stupid question. Besides the big (frank) no, I need to follow this. If Kane is such a horrible contract, why do they want him on their books? Ummm, also this thing called a salary cap, which they are right up against. I didn't read it all because I couldn't.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 11 @ 11:20 PM ET
That’s out in my old hood! Grew up off of Book and 87th so a little west of there. Been to that Jewel many a times.
- bhawks2241



Built my first house near 95th & Book about 35 years ago.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 11 @ 11:28 PM ET
Okay, so I'm going ahead with this stupid question. Besides the big (frank) no, I need to follow this. If Kane is such a horrible contract, why do they want him on their books? Ummm, also this thing called a salary cap, which they are right up against. I didn't read it all because I couldn't.
- I Am The Breadman

But did you flag it?

Let’s get Tanner banned from his own blog.

He’s literally a professional troll.
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