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glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 11 @ 11:36 PM ET
But did you flag it?

Let’s get Tanner banned from his own blog.

He’s literally a professional troll.

- Ogilthorpe2


It's literally the worst blogs I've ever eead
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 11 @ 11:38 PM ET
But did you flag it?

Let’s get Tanner banned from his own blog.

He’s literally a professional troll.

- Ogilthorpe2


No, because it sounds like a futile battle. I also believe in the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. You could end up with worse ...
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 11 @ 11:42 PM ET
No, because it sounds like a futile battle. I also believe in the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. You could end up with worse ...
- I Am The Breadman


I flagged it. I think OGI posted/replied a few times. Can't wait for Hawks to smoke the Yotes next year 7-1
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 11 @ 11:42 PM ET
No, because it sounds like a futile battle. I also believe in the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. You could end up with worse ...
- I Am The Breadman

Unless the devil you do know is actually the worst, then the devil you don’t know would be better...no?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jul 11 @ 11:43 PM ET
Tanner reminds me of all the "experts" CNN, MSNBC, and all the other media bring on to explain things. Clueless.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 11 @ 11:44 PM ET
Tanner reminds me of all the "experts" CNN, MSNBC, and all the other media bring on to explain things. Clueless.
- powerenforcer


Except Sharpy
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 11 @ 11:44 PM ET
It's literally the worst blogs I've ever eead
- glennjpawlak22

Tanner:

glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Jul 11 @ 11:46 PM ET
Tanner:


- Ogilthorpe2


Spot on. Love it
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 12 @ 12:00 AM ET
Unless the devil you do know is actually the worst, then the devil you don’t know would be better...no?
- Ogilthorpe2


I'll go with no?

I saw your work on that blog though, it was a thing of beauty! Hahahaha!!!!
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jul 12 @ 12:49 AM ET
Sorry if this has been posted, from the Arizona blog:

The Arizona Coyotes have gone down the road towards contention far enough that there is no going back.

With the majority of their roster either in the midst of, or approaching the end of their prime, the Coyotes have some incentive to add to their team to try and contend.

They have added Phil Kessel this summer - but unless you count Carl Soderberg (you shouldn't) they haven't really done anything to improve their scoring problems, and seem to be counting on some kind of magic from Keller/Schmaltz to provide it.

If the Coyotes are serious about contending, as opposed to just creating the perception of such, then they've got to make another move.

The player they should target is Patrick Kane.

Coming off an incredible 44 goal 110 point season, Kane is the superstar the Coyotes need.

The reason I bring him up is that it's not impossible that the Blackhawks would trade him.

They have almost no chance of making the playoffs next year - barring Robyn Lehner being for real, they are most likely looking at a lottery pick.

Their team isn't very good, and they've got Keith, Seabrook, Saad, and Murphy on some of the worst contracts in the NHL.
The De Haan,and Maata contracts aren't much better.

Neither are Toews or Kanes.

And they've got 11 million locked up in goalies.

It is truly one of the worst salary cap situations in the NHL as well as one of the worst rosters. The Hawks clearly have to rebuild - or at least retool - and trading Kane might be the best way to do that.

Kane is probably decent value for a $10.5 cap hit, but the contract runs another four years and he turns 31 this November.

Given the Hawks salary cap situation, and bad-to-OK prospect situation, you would think they might be inclined to trade the most valuable of their aging core.


And if they're going to trade him, they'll most likely trade him to Arizona since the two teams like to make about four trades per year with each other.

If the Coyotes were willing to move three or four of their next first rounders, maybe a prospect or two, I don't see why something couldn't happen. They'd also have to include some salaried players like Stepan or Goligoski to absorb Kane's cap hit.

Kane would make the Coyotes a dangerous team. The Hawks can use the futures.

It seems like a good fit.

Perhaps Kane isn't the one - but the Coyotes need to be willing to do something like this if they want to win.

CamRusselsJock
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.26.2017

Jul 12 @ 1:48 AM ET
Sorry if this has been posted, from the Arizona blog:

The Arizona Coyotes have gone down the road towards contention far enough that there is no going back.

With the majority of their roster either in the midst of, or approaching the end of their prime, the Coyotes have some incentive to add to their team to try and contend.

They have added Phil Kessel this summer - but unless you count Carl Soderberg (you shouldn't) they haven't really done anything to improve their scoring problems, and seem to be counting on some kind of magic from Keller/Schmaltz to provide it.

If the Coyotes are serious about contending, as opposed to just creating the perception of such, then they've got to make another move.

The player they should target is Patrick Kane.

Coming off an incredible 44 goal 110 point season, Kane is the superstar the Coyotes need.

The reason I bring him up is that it's not impossible that the Blackhawks would trade him.

They have almost no chance of making the playoffs next year - barring Robyn Lehner being for real, they are most likely looking at a lottery pick.

Their team isn't very good, and they've got Keith, Seabrook, Saad, and Murphy on some of the worst contracts in the NHL.
The De Haan,and Maata contracts aren't much better.

Neither are Toews or Kanes.

And they've got 11 million locked up in goalies.

It is truly one of the worst salary cap situations in the NHL as well as one of the worst rosters. The Hawks clearly have to rebuild - or at least retool - and trading Kane might be the best way to do that.

Kane is probably decent value for a $10.5 cap hit, but the contract runs another four years and he turns 31 this November.

Given the Hawks salary cap situation, and bad-to-OK prospect situation, you would think they might be inclined to trade the most valuable of their aging core.


And if they're going to trade him, they'll most likely trade him to Arizona since the two teams like to make about four trades per year with each other.

If the Coyotes were willing to move three or four of their next first rounders, maybe a prospect or two, I don't see why something couldn't happen. They'd also have to include some salaried players like Stepan or Goligoski to absorb Kane's cap hit.

Kane would make the Coyotes a dangerous team. The Hawks can use the futures.

It seems like a good fit.

Perhaps Kane isn't the one - but the Coyotes need to be willing to do something like this if they want to win.


- rpeters01



Thanks for this. I didn't want to give him the click. REALLY makes you appreciate how good we've got it.

But in all fairness, since we don't need Ryan Miller anymore, I guess AZ would be the next, logical place we could trade Kane.
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:00 AM ET
I just read first few paragraphs. What a ......

What made me mad was he firmly believes that the Hawks are a lottery team. Clearly he doesn't study what Hawks changes for next year n

Hey Tyler at EK next Xmas party for the.bloggers. Can you wedgy Tanner for us. Ha!!!

We are very fortunate to have you as our Hawks blogger.

- glennjpawlak22

He doesn't believe in anything ...just stirring the pot for clicks. Entertaining even in its idiocy though with that recent one....wow....he should work for The Onion like someone suggested.
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Jul 12 @ 2:02 AM ET
Tanner reminds me of all the "experts" CNN, MSNBC, and all the other media bring on to explain things. Clueless.
- powerenforcer

He's smart enough to know how to push buttons ...pun intended
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 12 @ 6:54 AM ET
I just read first few paragraphs. What a ......

What made me mad was he firmly believes that the Hawks are a lottery team. Clearly he doesn't study what Hawks changes for next year n

Hey Tyler at EK next Xmas party for the.bloggers. Can you wedgy Tanner for us. Ha!!!

We are very fortunate to have you as our Hawks blogger.

- glennjpawlak22


Ha. Sure.

And thank you for the compliment.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 12 @ 7:09 AM ET
A few pages ago, you guys and gals were talking about Dominik Kubalik being the wildcard this season... I couldn't agree more.

Watch this when you have 6 mins:

https://youtu.be/rXAov44-4Ow

I understand it is the Swiss League but his shot and finishing ability is on serious display here.

This tells me:

* he's a RW (deadly one-timer on his off-side) ... not a LW
* he is big and not afraid to go to the net
* should be a primary shooter on that RW with at least one strong playmaker on his line

I'm not sure who that is (Kahun would have been great) but if you put Kubalik on a 3rd line the Hawks may have just found a nice secondary scoring option when the big guns go cold.

You also have 3x triggermen on separate lines with Kane (L1), DeBrincat (L2) and Kubalik (L3).

This is all dependent on Kubalik adjusting back to a NA game and starting strong but boy do i sure like his chances.

- Tyler Cameron


1. Pretty Impressive
2. Damn that's a big sheet of ice
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 12 @ 7:13 AM ET
Tanner is talking out of his ass again!
- Sn1362


Don't fall for it and give him views
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jul 12 @ 7:21 AM ET
Don't fall for it and give him views
- vabeachbear


Too late.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:40 AM ET
Ha. Sure.

And thank you for the compliment.

- Tyler Cameron


The Hawks are in way worse shape than I thought. No good players, horribly mismanaged Cap and no prospects.

The Hawks can only hope the Yotes make a pitch for Kaner and take his awful contract off their hands.

These are the kind of blogs you should be writing Ty! Come on man, up your game!
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 12 @ 7:43 AM ET
*NEW* Blog up: http://bit.ly/2LOk5c5

Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 12 @ 7:44 AM ET
The Hawks are in way worse shape than I thought. No good players, horribly mismanaged Cap and no prospects.

The Hawks can only hope the Yotes make a pitch for Kaner and take his awful contract of their hands.

These are the kind of blogs you should be writing Ty! Come on man, up your game!

- HawkintheD



I don't think I'm emotionally or mentally capable of writing a masterpiece like that.

HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:46 AM ET
Too late.
- I Am The Breadman


Tanner makes Taylor's posts seem reasonable in comparison. It's hard to pick a thought in that mess that stood apart, but my favorite may be him questioning if Lehner is for real after anointing Raanta and Kuemper the best goalie tandem in the league in his previous blog.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:57 AM ET
I think part of stan's plan in bringing players back is partly ego driven. Chemistry can be part of it, but I think he wants to keep guys he's drafted in the system. After all the talk from the first cup being inherited, he's scarred for life.
- ge1002


You are joking....right????

Terravainen....Joker...Hartman....Schmaltz...all high draft picks of his. All traded.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 22 @ 1:41 AM ET
Interesting tweet by Powers regarding the possibility of Mitchell changing his mind about signing with the Hawks instead of returning to college.

I wouldn't doubt that Mitchell's decision to go back to college next season was part of the calculus in Stan's decision to trade Joki. He had to consider that Mitchell saw the log jam at RD and may have started thinking about playing two more years in college and reaching free agency. From Mitchell's perspective - if he probably wasn't going to make his way onto the Hawks roster in the next couple years - he may as well stay in college and get to pick a team that could offer him a better opportunity.

Stan would have had to see that possibility and if he, Kelly and the team's talent evaluators assessed Mitchell and Joki to be fairly even in terms of projected ceiling - then why not trade Joki and get something for him and at the same time show Mitchell they are clearing a path for him. In other words - this way they end up with Mitchell and Nylander rather than only Joki because they would lose Mitchell if Joki were still on the team.

- EbonyRaptor


Good analysis. Could actually be the way circumstances were adressed.
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