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VANTEL
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I lose sleep worrying about the Cap
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 11 @ 10:12 PM ET
That's not the point, but yes, I'm certain there are other GM's that would sign him.

The point is, that the league and NHLPA wouldn't allow teams and players to terminate a contract as a means to getting out from a #cap space issue.

- belcherbd


You can't sign a player for fifty cents
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland - Anti intentional tanking
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:12 PM ET
That's not the point, but yes, I'm certain there are other GM's that would sign him.

The point is, that the league and NHLPA wouldn't allow teams and players to terminate a contract as a means to getting out from a #cap space issue.

- belcherbd


Exactly.

Is this going to be the summer of Loui talk?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:13 PM ET
It's a fantasy....
- belcherbd

Nevertheless, it’s a perfectly legal fantasy if you frame it right from a management perspective. If Benning says he just didn’t beat out our younger guys, so we sent him down, which is absolutely allowed under the CBA, but he won’t report......Canucks can terminate his contract.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland - Anti intentional tanking
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:15 PM ET
Nevertheless, it’s a perfectly legal fantasy if you frame it right from a management perspective. If Benning says he just didn’t beat out our younger guys, so we sent him down, which is absolutely allowed under the CBA, but he won’t report......Canucks can terminate his contract.
- Pacificgem


In theory...a lot of buts and ifs though.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:15 PM ET
That's not the point, but yes, I'm certain there are other GM's that would sign him.

The point is, that the league and NHLPA wouldn't allow teams and players to terminate a contract as a means to getting out from a #cap space issue.

- belcherbd

Hard to prove.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:17 PM ET
In theory...a lot of buts and ifs though.

- dbot

I don’t see Benning going down that route, he’s just not that type of guy. But it is perfectly legal to terminate if he won’t report. The guy has 80% of his money from his contract, he might just say (frank) it, I’m not reporting.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:18 PM ET
I don’t see Benning going down that route, he’s just not that type of guy. But it is perfectly legal to terminate if he won’t report. The guy has 80% of his money from his contract, he might just say (frank) it, I’m not reporting.
- Pacificgem

Amazing grasp of the obvious 👍
1970vintage
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The future's so bright Woo's gotta Huges shades.
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 11 @ 10:23 PM ET
Patrick Berglund just quit hockey in December - contract terminated - left 12 million on the table, zero ramifications.

Jake Dotchin shows up for camp over weight - contract terminated, signs with the Ducks.

Plekanec, Streit, Addison all had mutual terminated contracts

Alex Burmistrov, mid season retirement - contract terminated.

- Brooks_Light


Only one of those players continued playing. You’re stupider than I thought if you believe the NHL or PA would allow the Canucks to get out from Lui’s contract so he could sign another (cheaper) one some place else.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland - Anti intentional tanking
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:24 PM ET
I don’t see Benning going down that route, he’s just not that type of guy. But it is perfectly legal to terminate if he won’t report. The guy has 80% of his money from his contract, he might just say (frank) it, I’m not reporting.
- Pacificgem


A_SteamingLombardi
Location: I've been on this ride for 49 years and it doesn't go anywhere.
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:25 PM ET
How many of those signed a new contract with another team in the NHL afterwards?
- belcherbd

In the same year.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:25 PM ET
Nevertheless, it’s a perfectly legal fantasy if you frame it right from a management perspective. If Benning says he just didn’t beat out our younger guys, so we sent him down, which is absolutely allowed under the CBA, but he won’t report......Canucks can terminate his contract.
- Pacificgem


Yes that one is more legitimate. I'm still not sure a player has ever been terminated for failing to report and then signing a new deal.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:27 PM ET
Exactly.

Is this going to be the summer of Loui talk?

- dbot


(frank) loui, like I said he will be moved for a high cost but it will still be worth it IMO.

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland - Anti intentional tanking
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:29 PM ET
(frank) loui, like I said he will be moved for a high cost but it will still be worth it IMO.
- belcherbd



i'd ship him out with Goldy and retain salary.
2 birds, one stone.

We got too many forwards as it is.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: I've been on this ride for 49 years and it doesn't go anywhere.
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:30 PM ET
Yes that one is more legitimate. I'm still not sure a player has ever been terminated for failing to report and then signing a new deal.
- belcherbd

Didn't the teams have to vote to let Kovalchuk back into the league?
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jul 11 @ 10:33 PM ET
Exactly.

Is this going to be the summer of Loui talk?

- dbot


Charleston Chew anyone?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 11 @ 10:33 PM ET
Amazing grasp of the obvious 👍
- Nighthawk

Are your mom and dad brother and sister?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: I've been on this ride for 49 years and it doesn't go anywhere.
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 11 @ 10:33 PM ET
At least I hope Benning has learned not to sign contracts like Loui's again.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:37 PM ET
You can't sign a player for fifty cents

- VANTEL

Ballard & Wirtz woulda tried...
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:38 PM ET
Yes that one is more legitimate. I'm still not sure a player has ever been terminated for failing to report and then signing a new deal.
- belcherbd

Always a time for a 1st
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 11 @ 10:39 PM ET
(frank) loui, like I said he will be moved for a high cost but it will still be worth it IMO.
- belcherbd

Id have no problem with shipping Jake and a pick with Loui to get rid of him
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:41 PM ET
Id have no problem with shipping Jake and a pick with Loui to get rid of him
- CanuckDon

Chances are we just suck it up til Loui stubs his toe & goes on LTIR
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:44 PM ET
How many of those signed a new contract with another team in the NHL afterwards?
- belcherbd


One - Dotchin, however the point is/was players/teams terminate contracts for a numbers of reasons and situations - i just gave a bunch of examples.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:51 PM ET
Only one of those players continued playing. You’re stupider than I thought if you believe the NHL or PA would allow the Canucks to get out from Lui’s contract so he could sign another (cheaper) one some place else.
- 1970vintage


Originally Nuckup said "Non reporting is a procedure to how contracts can be voided. It's not common but has happened in the past for violations."

you're the dumb fawk that somehow interpreted that as Loui terminating the contract and signing a cheaper one...??? and i'm stupid for proving you wrong...

Point is, there's a number of examples/reasons for teams/players to terminate contracts, pull your thick head out of your a$$ and you'll realize that.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jul 11 @ 10:55 PM ET
Yes that one is more legitimate. I'm still not sure a player has ever been terminated for failing to report and then signing a new deal.
- belcherbd


Not only did Dotchin get terminated for being a fat fawk, but he signed a new cheaper deal with the Ducks weeks later
VANTEL
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I lose sleep worrying about the Cap
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 11 @ 10:56 PM ET
Exactly.

Is this going to be the summer of Loui talk?

- dbot


I hope not . Canucks have done a lot of good things this year. I think the team might actually be watchable
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