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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 12 @ 7:37 AM ET
you have to admit that losing 4 out of 4 times in first round playoffs as most recent track record of Leafs doesn't really help your argument..

I would agree that this team still needs some changes (said so last years as well) to be competitive in the playoffs. it's not necessarily the team with the best players that win Stanley Cups - it's the teams that have players form the best collective team group that win.

Last playoffs, best players that performed best vs Boston included Hainsey, Brown (with Nylander, Johnsson and a few other 'top players' making 0 impact).

- MaximusAurelius



Jokes?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 12 @ 7:43 AM ET
Dont see them affording him with Rielly and Andersen coming up in a couple years.

Especially since I read the PA may keep the cap down again next year.

- Aetherial


Cap will remain low next year, but the cap will experience it's biggest increase ever teh following year. New TV deal is expected to be significant. They will have the money for Barrie, Muzzin if he wants to stay will get less money and term.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: When the water is rough the sailing is tough, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 12 @ 7:44 AM ET
you have to admit that losing 4 out of 4 times in first round playoffs as most recent track record of Leafs doesn't really help your argument..

I would agree that this team still needs some changes (said so last years as well) to be competitive in the playoffs. it's not necessarily the team with the best players that win Stanley Cups - it's the teams that have players form the best collective team group that win.

Last playoffs, best players that performed best vs Boston included Hainsey, Brown (with Nylander, Johnsson and a few other 'top players' making 0 impact).

- MaximusAurelius


Are you counting 2013 as part of their track record, because that was a totally different team. In fact not a single player remains.

There have been changes, and there will always be changes. The important thing is to have a core that contends for as long as possible. The Leafs are looking good.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Joseph Woll - starting goalie Leafs 2020-2021 season
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:51 AM ET
Dont see them affording him with Rielly and Andersen coming up in a couple years.

Especially since I read the PA may keep the cap down again next year.

- Aetherial


Joseph Woll (happy birthday today!) will probably replace him in 2021-2022 season as Leafs' starting goalie.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Joseph Woll - starting goalie Leafs 2020-2021 season
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:54 AM ET
Are you counting 2013 as part of their track record, because that was a totally different team. In fact not a single player remains.

There have been changes, and there will always be changes. The important thing is to have a core that contends for as long as possible. The Leafs are looking good.

- Zezel


I 100% agree.
I think Leafs will be top10 in NHL (as for potential in winning SC) for next 10years or so.

As for the core (next 5y at least), for me that's: Matthews-Marner-Tavares-Hyman-Rielly-Dermott-Andersen (/another starter in a few years) and hopefully at least 1 of Sandin/Liljegren. The rest likely will change, but that's a really good and young core.
UsernameUnknown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jul 12 @ 7:55 AM ET
Are you counting 2013 as part of their track record, because that was a totally different team. In fact not a single player remains.

There have been changes, and there will always be changes. The important thing is to have a core that contends for as long as possible. The Leafs are looking good.

- Zezel


I think I read somewhere that since Kadri's departure, Garret Sparks is the longest tenured player in the Leafs organization.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 12 @ 8:00 AM ET
you have to admit that losing 4 out of 4 times in first round playoffs as most recent track record of Leafs doesn't really help your argument..

I would agree that this team still needs some changes (said so last years as well) to be competitive in the playoffs. it's not necessarily the team with the best players that win Stanley Cups - it's the teams that have players form the best collective team group that win.

Last playoffs, best players that performed best vs Boston included Hainsey, Brown (with Nylander, Johnsson and a few other 'top players' making 0 impact).

- MaximusAurelius


WTF are you talking about. Know your numbers before you make statements. The Boston series was a tight series that could have gone either way. Leafs were up 3 games to 2 with a home game 6 to win the series. Brown and Hainsey contributed exactly one assist each - your "best performers" on the other hand Johnsson had a goal and 3 assists and Nylander had a goal and two assists. Andersen who had a .922 save percentage, but Rask was better.
21peter
New York Rangers
Location: Overlooking the fjord
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 12 @ 8:06 AM ET
WTF are you talking about. Know your numbers before you make statements. The Boston series was a tight series that could have gone either way. Leafs were up 3 games to 2 with a home game 6 to win the series. Brown and Hainsey contributed exactly one assist each - your "best performers" on the other hand Johnsson had a goal and 3 assists and Nylander had a goal and two assists. Andersen who had a .922 save percentage, but Rask was better.
- winsix

100% understandable why Kadri had to go; without his braincramps last 2 playoffs the Leafs could've had 2 deep runs... After all both 1st round losses was a coin toss!
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 12 @ 8:11 AM ET
100% understandable why Kadri had to go; without his braincramps last 2 playoffs the Leafs could've had 2 deep runs... After all both 1st round losses was a coin toss!
- 21peter


Agree, and I heard from two separate insiders that Babcock basically insisted that Kadri had to go. Making a mistake is ok, not learning from it and repeating the mistake, especially in the playoffs is hard to forgive and sets a bad example.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The type of performance that Toronto gave, was probably equivalent to an ECF run - Lamp, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:45 AM ET
100% understandable why Kadri had to go; without his braincramps last 2 playoffs the Leafs could've had 2 deep runs... After all both 1st round losses was a coin toss!
- 21peter

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Doesn't matter, some Leafs fan came into the Habs thread yesterday and called last playoffs run a success for the Leafs.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The type of performance that Toronto gave, was probably equivalent to an ECF run - Lamp, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:46 AM ET
Agree, and I heard from two separate insiders that Babcock basically insisted that Kadri had to go. Making a mistake is ok, not learning from it and repeating the mistake, especially in the playoffs is hard to forgive and sets a bad example.
- winsix


Indeed.

He showed the whole world how dumb he was.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Joseph Woll - starting goalie Leafs 2020-2021 season
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 12 @ 8:48 AM ET
WTF are you talking about. Know your numbers before you make statements. The Boston series was a tight series that could have gone either way. Leafs were up 3 games to 2 with a home game 6 to win the series. Brown and Hainsey contributed exactly one assist each - your "best performers" on the other hand Johnsson had a goal and 3 assists and Nylander had a goal and two assists. Andersen who had a .922 save percentage, but Rask was better.
- winsix


sure - Hainsey and Brown in their roles should be evaluated on the point production

Johnsson and Nylander were invisible.
Andersen (as with Anaheim before, and Leafs before) in critical playoff games folds under pressure.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: When it comes to spatsDopps there is no wrong hole. -systemtool
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 12 @ 8:49 AM ET
You wouldn’t want MDZ trust me on that.
- Nighthawk


That bad, even as depth? We do have Marincin back there.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 12 @ 8:50 AM ET
That bad, even as depth? We do have Marincin back there.
- gravyface

Nothing is worse then Marincin, maybe not even AKI BERG I have no idea why they keep him around.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: When it comes to spatsDopps there is no wrong hole. -systemtool
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 12 @ 8:50 AM ET
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Doesn't matter, some Leafs fan came into the Habs thread yesterday and called last playoffs run a success for the Leafs.

- Scabeh


It was a marginal improvement over last year, but still an improvement, even if the results were the same.
UsernameUnknown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jul 12 @ 8:51 AM ET
sure - Hainsey and Brown in their roles should be evaluated on the point production

Johnsson and Nylander were invisible.
Andersen (as with Anaheim before, and Leafs before) in critical playoff games folds under pressure.

- MaximusAurelius


Super strange how the two guys you rip on the most just happened to play horribly (to you) in the playoffs.. .
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 12 @ 8:52 AM ET
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Doesn't matter, some Leafs fan came into the Habs thread yesterday and called last playoffs run a success for the Leafs.

- Scabeh

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The type of performance that Toronto gave, was probably equivalent to an ECF run - Lamp, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:52 AM ET
It was a marginal improvement over last year, but still an improvement, even if the results were the same.
- gravyface


Would you call it a success and probably equivalent to an ECF run?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The type of performance that Toronto gave, was probably equivalent to an ECF run - Lamp, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:53 AM ET

- Archaic


It was glorious.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto Maple Leafs Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jul 12 @ 8:53 AM ET
happy Friday all
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The type of performance that Toronto gave, was probably equivalent to an ECF run - Lamp, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:54 AM ET
happy Friday all
- Lucas.Neilson


Target is still alive, I repeat, target is still a-live.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 12 @ 8:54 AM ET
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Doesn't matter, some Leafs fan came into the Habs thread yesterday and called last playoffs run a success for the Leafs.

- Scabeh


Something is lost in translation on this post. Are you ok?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The type of performance that Toronto gave, was probably equivalent to an ECF run - Lamp, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:56 AM ET
Something is lost in translation on this post. Are you ok?
- winsix


Never been better.

Started running 3 times a week since beer league hockey season ended early may and the results are starting to show.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Skalapy snapped my pencil neck, with 2 fingers
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 12 @ 8:56 AM ET
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Doesn't matter, some Leafs fan came into the Habs thread yesterday and called last playoffs run a success for the Leafs.

- Scabeh


I saw that
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: When it comes to spatsDopps there is no wrong hole. -systemtool
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 12 @ 8:59 AM ET
Would you call it a success and probably equivalent to an ECF run?
- Scabeh


Jesus H.

I can't answer for the unwashed masses that call themselves Leafs fans.

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