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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Nashville has done a few deals like this, no?
- Chunk


Ya... Jarnkrok for 6 years at $2 million per. Roman Rosi 7 years at $4 million per (at the time of the signing it seemed like a risky move, but it certainly paid off for the Preds).
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
U-20 FIN vs CZE is streaming. 2019 picks Saarela #19 (FIN) and Teply #11 (CZE) are suited up. https://www.youtube.com/w...q1dWDX5Q&feature=youtu.be
jv526
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: southside, IL
Joined: 04.06.2013

Jul 23 @ 12:02 PM ET
Nashville has done a few deals like this, no?
- Chunk


Yep. plus Arvidson 7 years @ $4,250,000 a years
tgentry1084
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 12.28.2012

Jul 23 @ 12:07 PM ET
I think Q has a two way the first year?
- rpeters01


That just means he earns a different salary if he plays in the minors. He is not waivers-exempt, according to CapFriendly.
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Jul 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
I think Q has a two way the first year?
- rpeters01



Not to call you out, as I have seen this error posted by countless persons on the board, but a 2 way deal has NOTHING to do with waivers and waiver exemption, it has to do with salary- you are paid 1 salary when playing in the minors, and a higher salary when you are playing in the NHL. Q would have to pass through waiver.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jul 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
Yep. plus Arvidson 7 years @ $4,250,000 a years
- jv526


But Kyle Turris at 5 more at $6 mil and Johannson at $8 mil., ugh. They have to sign Josi next year, he will probably get around $9 mil. per.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Jul 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
https://youtu.be/ZFUUtGVsEOE

I always preferred the cow bell in Mountain's "Mississippi Queen".

- Rota's Rooter


The best cow bell intro to any rock song.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
I’m having a hard time digesting Wedin with any role tbh albeit on limited video clips. At 26, AHL doesn’t make sense but it makes even less sense to have him on the big club with Q already destined for 13th forward. I don’t see where he fits.
- Assman22


The team is not going to be a favorite but is close enough .talent - wise to sneak in to the playoffs. Breaking it down without trying to go off on a detailed comparison vs other teams, obviously the scoring could be scarry giid but hopefully the defense will not be too scarry bad. What they have going in their favor (in addition to a potent offense) is strong goaltending, Colliton's structured defense, and a lot of players surely battling for bottom line playing time. You have to discount much help from rookies although it would not be too surprising: a couple forwards and maybe a dman rookie become part of the mix. There are extra veterans and prospects which could be packaged with one of our dmen. In return a better dman. Because there really isn't any other help on the horizon to greatly impact next season. And (sigh) if such a trade actually came to fruition.

Hopefully both Gus and Murphy step up and are solid. Both want and need to establish themselves as top dmen.....there is some doubt it could happen yet both may be in a very good setting to prove themselves. They both do have ability. Murphy however may one day find that his skating holds him back. But next year he still gets around ok.

Should the team jell and be competjtive, Keith might have a better attitude. That and a pairing he will not be overly critical or pissed

BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jul 23 @ 1:10 PM ET
Russian boxer dies after sustaining brain injuries. 28 years old

EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jul 23 @ 1:22 PM ET
The team is not going to be a favorite but is close enough .talent - wise to sneak in to the playoffs. Breaking it down without trying to go off on a detailed comparison vs other teams, obviously the scoring could be scarry giid but hopefully the defense will not be too scarry bad. What they have going in their favor (in addition to a potent offense) is. strong goaltending is Colliton s structured defense and a lot of players.surely battling for botyom line playing time. You have to discount much help from rookies although it would not be too surprising. If a couple forwards and maybe a dman rookie become parr of the mix. There are extra veterans and prisoects which coukd be packaged with one if our dmen. In return a better dman. Becayse there realy isn't any other help on the horizon to greatly impact next season.

Hopefully both Gus and Murphy step up and are solid. Both want and need to establish themselves as top dmen..there is some doubt it could happen yet both may be in a very good setting to prive themselves. They both do have ability. Murohy may one day find that his skating holds him back, but next year he still gets around ok.

Should the team jell and be competjtive, Keuth might have a better attitude. That and a pauring he.will not b ed overly critical of

- jhawk59


If Colliton's system works as planned, it will most likely result in reduced scoring both for and against. The goals-for and goals-against at 5-on-5 was about even last season (183/185) but the delta on special teams was way higher on goals-against versus goals-for and getting that fixed is probably the most important key to success next season.

Last season:

Goals-for at 5-on-5 was 183. Goals-for on the PP was 48.
Goals-against at 5-on-5 was 185. Goals-against on the PK was 63.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
Vegas puts the Hawks at 90.5 projected points in the Regular Season. You taking the Over or Under??
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 23 @ 2:37 PM ET
Vegas puts the Hawks at 90.5 projected points in the Regular Season. You taking the Over or Under??
- EnzoD


Over, baby, I'm a Kool-Aid guy from way back.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 23 @ 2:41 PM ET
If I remember correctly, our blogger fairly negative on him.
- vabeachbear


Me?

I said I was disappointed he didn't step up at the development camp but will reserve judgement until I see more of him.
Davewn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Des Moines, IA
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jul 23 @ 2:49 PM ET
Me?

I said I was disappointed he didn't step up at the development camp but will reserve judgement until I see more of him.

- Tyler Cameron


Pretty sure he's talking about JJ's skepticism toward DeBrincat back in the day...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
You better believe it!

The Athletic did a 'top 50 NHL drafted' prospects list. Here are some notable mentions:

#1 - Jack Hughes
#2 - Kaapo Kakko
#3 - Quinn Hughes
#6 - Alex Turcotte
#8 - Bowen Byram
#9 - Dylan Cozens
#14 - Adam Boqvist
#18 - Kirby Dach
#25 - Cole Caufield
#26 - Henri Jokiharju

- DarthKane


I love it that Wheeler is willing to go out on a limb with these dumb lists especially after a major league organization deems Kirby Dach worthy of drafting in front #6 and #8.

And then there is Craig Button who is convinced Boqvist, Michell and company are all lesser lights than Bowen Byram ... we should all be depressed at the state of our affairs here in Chicago.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
Over, baby, I'm a Kool-Aid guy from way back.
- mohel


84 points last year, so I'd agree will be between 92-100 points this year
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
I love it that Wheeler is willing to go out on a limb with these dumb lists especially after a major league organization deems Kirby Dach worthy of drafting in front #6 and #8.

And then there is Craig Button who is convinced Boqvist, Michell and company are all lesser lights than Bowen Byram ...

- wiz1901we should all be depressed at the state of our affairs here in Chicago.


I said it last weekend, but I will say it again.....Kirby Dach looks to be a unique player with his size, skill, smarts, and overall game. Really love the pick.


I hate the Nylander trade, but I guess I'll trust you on "internal issues" that were the real cause. It just seems like a net loss in talent, unless Nylander grows a pair and learns to play hard on the puck.
hankscorpio
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.06.2015

Jul 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
I love it that Wheeler is willing to go out on a limb with these dumb lists especially after a major league organization deems Kirby Dach worthy of drafting in front #6 and #8.

And then there is Craig Button who is convinced Boqvist, Michell and company are all lesser lights than Bowen Byram ...

- wiz1901we should all be depressed at the state of our affairs here in Chicago.


My thoughts exactly. The "experts" always know better

We have to some faith in the Hawks organization -- this is not the same group that drafted Cam Barker. I don't agree with every move by Stan Bowman but I cannot complain about the last 10 years or so especially after having lived through the dark days of the mid to late 1990s and early 2000s.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
“18. Kirby Dach, C, 18 (Chicago Blackhawks — 3rd overall, 2019)

It’s not hard to imagine a scenario where Dach finishes his career as the third-best player in the 2019 draft. And though I wouldn’t have taken him third overall in 2019, he sat comfortably in my 6-8 range (and occasionally a slot or two higher) for most of the season. Dach is big, he has range, he’s getting stronger, he taught himself to go to the net more last season and he has high-end passing ability off the cycle. Mix in decent skating for a player his size and you’ve got an extremely exciting package of skills that every team covets in a first- or second-line center.”

- Ogilthorpe2


When you are simply regurgitating the same pre draft "info" Wheeler "scouted" - it doesn't include the defensive job the kid did all season line, even in his "slump".his reach glide and FEET...it is clear he need L-B-R as a consultant on the prospects.

Another thing: (not trying to be disparaging towards a young kid, BUT)

I just don't see Quinn Hughes as this unstoppable juggernaut who can even handle his end equal to most NHLers - talk about Boqvist, sure this kid has wheels but I am waiting to see him defend with dominance.
third best prospect...a defender...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
Dach wasn't rated highly by a lot of media outlets but I think they based their evaluations on videos and limited viewings. I doubt these outlets had the benefit of interviewing all the top candidates like the Hawks (and other teams) did. The likes of Dach, Byram and Cozens are all great prospects now, but I get the sense that that what separated Dach fro the pack (for the Hawks) was his approach and dedication to the game.
- DarthKane


Yeah, BUT you have to think both Wheeler and Corey Pronman had ample chances to view Dach and if the had an idea of what to look for with their eyes they would see (saw) how much ice he covered.

Like every one, they were seduced by the opinions of others...and looked less than expert-like.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
Dach wasn't rated highly by a lot of media outlets but I think they based their evaluations on videos and limited viewings. I doubt these outlets had the benefit of interviewing all the top candidates like the Hawks (and other teams) did. The likes of Dach, Byram and Cozens are all great prospects now, but I get the sense that that what separated Dach fro the pack (for the Hawks) was his approach and dedication to the game.
- DarthKane


Yeah, BUT you have to think both Wheeler and Corey Pronman had ample chances to view Dach and if the had an idea of what to look for with their eyes they would see (saw) how much ice he covered.

Like every one, they were seduced by the opinions of others...and looked pretty amateurish in their "expert draft prospect coverage."
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 23 @ 3:17 PM ET
Pretty sure he's talking about JJ's skepticism toward DeBrincat back in the day...
- Davewn



In all fairness DeBrincat hasn't shown much progression in the important stats.

- faceoffs remain < 50%
- hits per game ~ 0.5
- blocked shots per game ~ 0.3
- SH TOI < 10 seconds
- +/- went from +6 to 0
- zero improvement in shoot-outs


If Stan had any intelligence (which he doesn't) he'd sell on DeBrincat ASAP. He might be able to recoup the 2021 third round pick he gave up in the Shaw trade.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 23 @ 3:18 PM ET
I love it that Wheeler is willing to go out on a limb with these dumb lists especially after a major league organization deems Kirby Dach worthy of drafting in front #6 and #8.

And then there is Craig Button who is convinced Boqvist, Michell and company are all lesser lights than Bowen Byram ...

- wiz1901we should all be depressed at the state of our affairs here in Chicago.



Isn't that the way we should always be?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jul 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
Just showing off: he's the only one here who knows the embedded codes that get the red font.
- StLBravesFan


Here's ho


[ type in color=red ]

the write what you are being sarcastic about


close it with [/color]
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
Alright let’s set something straight right now:

Any projected lineup with Kampf at 3C is NOT an acceptable lineup. Kampf is not a legit 3C. We need to be stronger down the middle and have 3 potent scoring lines. Dach needs to get a serious look at 2/3C and if it doesn’t work out Shaw will have to be that guy like he was in 2013.
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