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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 22 @ 10:53 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: All Pacific Division All Pacific Division
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
ZAR 2 years ...$1M
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:06 AM ET
ZAR 2 years ...$1M
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Source?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:06 AM ET
ZAR 2 years ...$1M
- YouMeAndDupuis9



Official?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:09 AM ET
Nah it looks like they’re actually going to arbitration.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:10 AM ET
https://www.pensburgh.com...n-pittsburgh-signings-nhl
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:16 AM ET
https://pittsburghhockeyn...-settle-on-two-year-deal/
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:17 AM ET
Nah it looks like they’re actually going to arbitration.
- Victoro311


Yeah, that’s what I saw. What leverage does a player with half a season under his belt really have?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:17 AM ET
Yeah, that’s what I saw. What leverage does a player with half a season under his belt really have?
- Rinosaur



Its done. 2 years/1 mill per. See above link.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
Well it seems to be a done deal...but not seeing any big outlets confirming it yet....only PHN (which I don't really trust)
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:25 AM ET
Its done. 2 years/1 mill per. See above link.
- MattStrat


Hmm. Other sources saying arbitration. Not a terrible deal. Hopefully he gets added on to a JJ deal.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:26 AM ET
ZAR 2 years ...$1M
- YouMeAndDupuis9

A little lower than expected, probably for the extra year. Only 300k above league minimum.

At worst, he's a capable 4th liner that kills penalties, can move up for stretches with injuries and of course #grit, so worth it.

Best case, that 1.8 pts/60 is a sign he can move higher in the line-up and he's a bargain the next 2 years, though hard to move up with this depth.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:30 AM ET
A little lower than expected, probably for the extra year. Only 300k above league minimum.

At worst, he's a capable 4th liner that kills penalties, can move up for stretches with injuries and of course #grit, so worth it.

Best case, that 1.8 pts/60 is a sign he can move higher in the line-up and he's a bargain the next 2 years, though hard to move up with this depth.

- Tojo.


$1M was the most I expected. I still hope he gets shipped out.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:34 AM ET
ZAR 2 years ...$1M
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Dude is completely replaceable. I would have let him walk.

JR could have bought out JJ and let ZAR walk. He'd be sitting on nearly 5mil in cap space right now. I don't hate ZAR, just think they have other options that would likely be equally effective. Hopefully he surprises and pots around 10g/30pts.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:34 AM ET
I’m not a fan of ZAR as most already know. He bothers me so much because he’s a completely different player when playing with Geno than he is on the 4th line and I don’t mean because Geno elevates his play.

ZAR visibly plays different when in the top six. On the fourth line he skates in mud and his shot couldn’t break wind. When he gets to play with Geno he can all of a sudden skate and shoot. His whole effort level changes.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:35 AM ET
A little lower than expected, probably for the extra year. Only 300k above league minimum.

At worst, he's a capable 4th liner that kills penalties, can move up for stretches with injuries and of course #grit, so worth it.

Best case, that 1.8 pts/60 is a sign he can move higher in the line-up and he's a bargain the next 2 years, though hard to move up with this depth.

- Tojo.


I'm still a big ZAR fan...for $1M I think he's great value and im excited to see what he can do once healthy for a full season.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
Gibson was robbed of being a Vezina Trophy finalist because NHL general managers still think goalie wins is the most important tool in evaluating the position.
- Ryan_Wilson


Don't NHL Awards get voted on by the PHWA?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:37 AM ET
Don't NHL Awards get voted on by the PHWA?
- jmatchett383


Also, if goalie wins won you the Vezina, MAF would have a few.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:37 AM ET
https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/big-smile-aston-reese-penuing-settle-on-two-year-deal/
- MattStrat

This is false. Kingersky makes up all of his material.

Three outlets reported 2 hours ago that both sides failed to come to an agreement and the arbitration hearing was happening.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:39 AM ET
Dude is completely replaceable. I would have let him walk.

JR could have bought out JJ and let ZAR walk. He'd be sitting on nearly 5mil in cap space right now. I don't hate ZAR, just think they have other options that would likely be equally effective. Hopefully he surprises and pots around 10g/30pts.

- madmike71


He makes almost league minimum. even if he is "replaceable", you'd rather bring an unknown up from Wilkes to save $250k?

He was on pace for 35 points last season. perfectly respectable for the bottom 6. That's the same production Kahun had playing with Debrincat and we are all happy to have Kahun. Basically the same AAV too.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:40 AM ET
Dude is completely replaceable. I would have let him walk.

JR could have bought out JJ and let ZAR walk. He'd be sitting on nearly 5mil in cap space right now. I don't hate ZAR, just think they have other options that would likely be equally effective. Hopefully he surprises and pots around 10g/30pts.

- madmike71


From the talk on twitter and comments by the guys at the Athletic, ZAR wanted term and the pens were only offering 1 year deals, they were not very happy with his game last year.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Don't NHL Awards get voted on by the PHWA?
- jmatchett383


Nope. Not all of them. Vezina is picked by the GMs.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
He makes almost league minimum. even if he is "replaceable", you'd rather bring an unknown up from Wilkes to save $250k?

He was on pace for 35 points last season. perfectly respectable for the bottom 6. That's the same production Kahun had playing with Debrincat and we are all happy to have Kahun. Basically the same AAV too.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Honestly, I’d rather roll the dice and see what we have in WBS than keep ZAR. They already have 12 forwards, so I’m fine with the 13th being someone who proves himself in camp.


Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 11:43 AM ET
From the talk on twitter and comments by the guys at the Athletic, ZAR wanted term and the pens were only offering 1 year deals, they were not very happy with his game last year.
- burgh4life87


Good. He doesn’t deserve term yet. Two years is the most he should be given right now.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:43 AM ET
Nope. Not all of them. Vezina is picked by the GMs.
- j.boyd919


Hmm, interesting. I know the Hart was members of the PHWA, figured all were.

I learned something today...but I still don't believe NHL GMs go, "This guy has the most wins, he's the best goalie."
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