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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 22 @ 8:46 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Aston-Reese contract provides better value than Tanev for similar role Aston-Reese contract provides better value than Tanev for similar role
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
Anyone have the link to where the skatr solo stat is now?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:04 PM ET
Anyone have the link to where the skatr solo stat is now?
- Rinosaur

Bill comeau public tableau
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 22 @ 9:04 PM ET
No trades are coming.

GMJR is going to play hardball with Petterson because he has no arb rights and run a 22 man roster to start the season.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 9:13 PM ET
What role will Tanev have? Not sure it is fair to compare the two. Of course a 2 year 1 mil contract is better on a cash strapped team, but if Tanev plays like a young Kunitz that makes a big role difference.

Just sayin’
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 22 @ 9:35 PM ET
I honestly forgot we had Tanev.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 22 @ 9:40 PM ET
Using Ryan Wilsons subjective take that ZAR has more value than Tanev, I'll make a Wilson-Esque take that ZAR provides more value than Crosby

ZAR = 43GP/17 Points = 0.4PPG for 1 Million

Crosby = 79GP/100 Points = 1.26 PPG for 8.7 Million

Crosby delivers only 3 times the points at 8.7 TIMES THE COST

ZAR, 3 TIMES better Value than Crosby
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 22 @ 9:42 PM ET
What role will Tanev have? Not sure it is fair to compare the two. Of course a 2 year 1 mil contract is better on a cash strapped team, but if Tanev plays like a young Kunitz that makes a big role difference.

Just sayin’

- Doogs


RFA's with almost no NHL experience also tend to be better value, based purely on the fact they are.... RFA's
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 9:43 PM ET
Using Ryan Wilsons subjective take that ZAR has more value than Tanev, I'll make a Wilson-Esque take that ZAR provides more value than Crosby

ZAR = 43GP/17 Points = 0.4PPG for 1 Million

Crosby = 79GP/100 Points = 1.26 PPG for 8.7 Million

Crosby delivers only 3 times the points at 8.7 TIMES THE COST

ZAR, 3 TIMES better Value than Crosby

- RoloTahmasee


This post is three times as dumb as anything I've read on here.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 9:45 PM ET
I honestly forgot we had Tanev.
- Victoro311


Looks like if JJ gets traded we've found RW's new Johnson
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 9:46 PM ET
I honestly forgot we had Tanev.
- Victoro311


Hahahaha
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 9:49 PM ET
Looks like if JJ gets traded we've found RW's new Johnson
- Rinosaur


Don’t forget that Gudbranson is still here as well.

It IS good to have options.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 22 @ 9:49 PM ET
Looks like if JJ gets traded we've found RW's new Johnson
- Rinosaur

If Hornqvist doesn’t bounce back or if Gudbranson regresses they’re 100% in front of him in the line.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 9:50 PM ET
If Hornqvist doesn’t bounce back or if Gudbranson regresses they’re 100% in front of him in the line.
- Victoro311


A cornucopia of future Johnsons.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 22 @ 9:52 PM ET
Looks like if JJ gets traded we've found RW's new Johnson
- Rinosaur


Pretty easy to spot given he can't even make a blog about a 2 year minimal signing without making a dig at another player on the roster

Imagine if Cullen hadn't retired yet?
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 9:53 PM ET
A cornucopia of future Johnsons.
- Rinosaur


Too bad RW wasn’t writing these when Ryan Whitney was here. That poor guy was so whipped on that on one of the video-game platforms they called him Whittaker.
OldPloppers
Joined: 07.22.2019

Jul 22 @ 9:55 PM ET

Today @ 9:13 PM ET
What role will Tanev have? Not sure it is fair to compare the two. Of course a 2 year 1 mil contract is better on a cash strapped team, but if Tanev plays like a young Kunitz that makes a big role difference.

Just sayin’


Like you don't think it's fair to compare Tanev and Aston-Reese, I don't think it's fair to compare Tanev with Kunitz. Kuntiz has demonstrated offensive ability his entire career. Tanev hasn't. Outside of being physical, they aren't similar players.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 10:00 PM ET
Like you don't think it's fair to compare Tanev and Aston-Reese, I don't think it's fair to compare Tanev with Kunitz. Kuntiz has demonstrated offensive ability his entire career. Tanev hasn't. Outside of being physical, they aren't similar players.
- OldPloppers


I think you missed the spirit of my point, which was that you don’t really know what you are getting with Tanev. I don’t know much about Tanev, but someone (not sure who) likened him to a young Kunitz.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:02 PM ET
I created an armchair just for RW

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/1345376

I didn't move everyone he hates though. I had to keep on Johnson for him to play with.
Brayn
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Birmingham, AL
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jul 22 @ 10:04 PM ET
MattStrat made the Kunitz comparison.
OldPloppers
Joined: 07.22.2019

Jul 22 @ 10:05 PM ET
I think you missed the spirit of my point, which was that you don’t really know what you are getting with Tanev. I don’t know much about Tanev, but someone (not sure who) likened him to a young Kunitz.


He's 28 years old. I think you do know what you're getting with him. It's a comparison I've seen in a few places. It's just not an accurate comparison. He's tenacious, but he doesn't have good offensive instincts. But hey, I'm all for him suddenly developing skills he's always lacked (I don't mean that sarcastically. I'd really like that.)
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:05 PM ET
I think you missed the spirit of my point, which was that you don’t really know what you are getting with Tanev. I don’t know much about Tanev, but someone (not sure who) likened him to a young Kunitz.
- Doogs


I think his role is going the similar to that of Rust, McCaan and Simon. Sullivan will plug him around the lineup depending on who's working and who isn't... or just every other shift because that's what he does.

I think RW's reasoning for the ZAR/Tanev comparison is due to defense. Tanev is a good defensive player with so-so production. For everything I can't stand about ZAR, he is good defensively and depending on how he's deployed he may put up similar numbers to Tanev.

Tanev however is a better skater which make a big difference on both ends of the ice.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 10:08 PM ET
I don’t recall the end of his Duck’s time or the start of Kunitz’s tenure here but did Kunitz play like a young Kunitz before arriving in the Burgh?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:13 PM ET
I don’t recall the end of his Duck’s time or the start of Kunitz’s tenure here but did Kunitz play like a young Kunitz before arriving in the Burgh?
- Doogs


Technically any player's play prior to how they now is younger.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 10:13 PM ET
I think his role is going the similar to that of Rust, McCaan and Simon. Sullivan will plug him around the lineup depending on who's working and who isn't... or just every other shift because that's what he does.

I think RW's reasoning for the ZAR/Tanev comparison is due to defense. Tanev is a good defensive player with so-so production. For everything I can't stand about ZAR, he is good defensively and depending on how he's deployed he may put up similar numbers to Tanev.

Tanev however is a better skater which make a big difference on both ends of the ice.

- Rinosaur


Makes sense. I don’t know much about Tanev, but I am hoping he can bring some physical intensity.

I don’t mind ZAR. Before Wilson caved his face in he was playing pretty well.
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