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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 5 @ 12:05 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Couturier, Konency, Sweater Nos., WJSS, TIFH
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 5 @ 12:14 PM ET
While it seems glaring on the surface...after reviewing the list I don’t think there’s any player I would bump for couturier. Possibly Peterson or aho but both those kids while not having the resume have franchise player written all over them....same with Point. I think couturier is right where he belongs which is a bottom tier first line center...nothing wrong with that.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Aug 5 @ 12:21 PM ET
Bill which players would you remove for Couterier?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 12:28 PM ET
Over/under on Gabe Kapler making it through the week?
iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Spring Mount, PA
Joined: 06.17.2007

Aug 5 @ 12:31 PM ET
Over/under on Gabe Kapler making it through the week?
- hereticpride


Bye Felicia
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
Over/under on Gabe Kapler making it through the week?
- hereticpride


At this point, might as well let him finish the season out.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 5 @ 12:34 PM ET
Bill which players would you remove for Couterier?
- daryl stanley


I wouldn't trade Couturier straight up for any of Couture, Kuznetsov or Backström (despite their respective playmaking wizardry), O'Reilly (Conn Smythe Trophy notwithstanding) or Monahan. Possibly even Seguin, too, because Couturier still contributes more as a 200-foot player although Seguin's all-around game has improved a lot.

DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Aug 5 @ 12:50 PM ET
Over/under on Gabe Kapler making it through the week?
- hereticpride

This road trip has the makings of the last straw
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
Swap Cooter for those guys on that list, probably only 10 make our team better, few debatables and everyone from 16 down is a no. Got Cooter over Aho too.
Hckygoalie31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 09.25.2017

Aug 5 @ 1:17 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Couturier straight up for any of Couture, Kuznetsov or Backström (despite their respective playmaking wizardry), O'Reilly (Conn Smythe Trophy notwithstanding) or Monahan. Possibly even Seguin, too, because Couturier still contributes more as a 200-foot player although Seguin's all-around game has improved a lot.


DEFINITELY have Coots over Couture
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 5 @ 2:09 PM ET
In terms of “all around play” I would rank Couts above:

Monahan
Aho
Couture
Point
Eichel
Kuznetsov
Pettersson
Seguin
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 5 @ 2:13 PM ET
In terms of “all around play” I would rank Couts above:

Monahan
Aho
Couture
Point
Eichel
Kuznetsov
Pettersson
Seguin

- arichardson22



Ranking Pettersson at all after 1 season of play is a joke IMO.


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
Shattenkirk signs one year deal with Tampa for 1.75
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 5 @ 2:20 PM ET
Ranking Pettersson at all after 1 season of play is a joke IMO.
- MBFlyerfan

and that's why it's a TV show haha, can't take it seriously.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 5 @ 2:22 PM ET
It amazes me how they will still give stamkos such a high ranking, he's the third or fourth best player on his team and has the luxury of playing with one of the top 3 wingers in the game.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 5 @ 2:24 PM ET
Guys on that list with the same or more ESP the past two years as Couturier

McDavid - 165
Crosby - 120
MacKinnon - 126
Barkov - 120
Tavares - 120
Couturier - 120

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...te,1&sort=evPoints,points
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 5 @ 2:27 PM ET
Guys on that list with the same or more ESP the past two years as Couturier

McDavid
Crosby
MacKinnon
Barkov
Tavares

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...te,1&sort=evPoints,points

- Feanor

who's that at #3?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 5 @ 2:29 PM ET
who's that at #3?
- ClaudeFather


A guy who probably won't make their list of top 20 wings for... reasons.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 5 @ 2:31 PM ET
A guy who probably won't make their list of top 20 wings for... reasons.
- Feanor

Lmao, they can't leave him off but you do never know. He will be in the 8-12 range on their list I believe.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 5 @ 2:35 PM ET
and that's why it's a TV show haha, can't take it seriously.
- ClaudeFather


Bill, you wasted your time!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 5 @ 2:44 PM ET
It amazes me how they will still give stamkos such a high ranking, he's the third or fourth best player on his team and has the luxury of playing with one of the top 3 wingers in the game.
- ClaudeFather

Stamkos had the luxury of having a few damn good teammates come out of nowhere when his game started to slip. He's still an excellent player but definitely not the superstar he used to be when he was carrying that team on his back.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 5 @ 2:51 PM ET
Bill, you wasted your time!
- MBFlyerfan

Come on Bill!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 5 @ 3:28 PM ET
Come on Bill!
- ClaudeFather



2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 5 @ 4:02 PM ET
Maybe he’s just not that good
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 5 @ 4:03 PM ET
Over/under on Gabe Kapler making it through the week?
- hereticpride

Not like a new coach is going to fix the pitching or batting
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