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GARTH'S CORNER
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @SabresBuzz
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 11 @ 2:28 AM ET
GARTH'S CORNER: Broken Rist
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Aug 11 @ 2:32 AM ET
Risto for McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge, Nurse, Bouchard and 4 1sts.
Not lotto protected.
All salary retained
youngshutout24
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NY
Joined: 07.12.2010

Aug 11 @ 5:01 AM ET
Buffalo has absolutely nothing to offer Philadelphia for Couturier.
Goalieguy43
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.29.2017

Aug 11 @ 7:43 AM ET
Since when is Risto a "winner" ? Or even a leader for that matter ? Yes he takes care his body and works out during off season and he does add a physical presence on ice. However, just like with EK I've yet to see one photo of Risto with teammates between games. He vanishes after practice or games and does not hang out with teammates. And of course he has a tendency to make bone head mistakes at the wrong time causing turnovers that result in goals.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buh bye NJ, hello Florida!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 11 @ 8:02 AM ET
LO Fn L
If you think Philly would trade Couturier for Ristolainen, you need to put the crack pipe down!
meduser
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.23.2012

Aug 11 @ 8:07 AM ET
0% chance that Philly trades Coots.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Aug 11 @ 8:14 AM ET
First line center for a bottom four defender.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Aug 11 @ 8:32 AM ET
Flyers need a 3rd line winger. If hey can get the Sabres to include okposo and 4th I can see a deal for couturier....
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Aug 11 @ 8:42 AM ET
Oh boy. Risto for coots? That’s not Ever gonna happen.

I can see Risto for RNH or Rakell but either of those players it’s gonna have to be Risto ++

Kinger411
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.20.2013

Aug 11 @ 9:22 AM ET
None of those teams would trade any of those players for him lol. You know that. That's no knock on the player just idiotic blogging on your part. Please wise up and quit it with nonsense. If not for us, for yourself.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 11 @ 9:23 AM ET
GARTH'S CORNER: Broken Rist
- garth

Risto for Coots?

BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Aug 11 @ 9:32 AM ET
What happened to ROR being traded for "five premium assets"?
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 11 @ 9:34 AM ET
Codi Ceci for Ristolainen
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 11 @ 9:39 AM ET
What happened to ROR being traded for "five premium assets"?
- BluemanGuruu

Sabres already got a veritable treasure trove of assets for Evander Kane. So they could afford to fall short of the 5 premium assets for ROR.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 11 @ 9:41 AM ET
No doubt I would love to see Risto in a PHI Jersey however for Couturier is ridiculous. Couturier is a younger Patrice Bergeron. You dont trade a guy like that. Flyers signed Hayes to fill a whole at Center so why would they trade away their #1 C especially for a Dman when the team is currently carrying 8.

The only way I see Risto going to Philly is for one of our Young Dman and by that it means Myers, Morin or Ghost. I cant see the Flyers open to dealing Provorov or Sanheim and Buffalo would not want Niskanen, Braun or Hagg
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 11 @ 10:34 AM ET
Thems be fighting "owrds"
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 11 @ 10:36 AM ET
Risto is an analytics nightmare. Five or six years ago, he may have commanded a decent return. Today, it’s doubtful they get much more than a mid level pick and B or C level prospect
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 11 @ 10:38 AM ET
Risto for Rakell???? You drunk ???

A yearly 30 goal scorer who had 18 on the worst offensive team in the league while shooting well below his historical average and Who is 26 and on a insanely team friendly contract...

You get Carter Rowney for Risto and like it.
GreenMonster
Joined: 08.05.2019

Aug 11 @ 10:39 AM ET
Hey pal this is supposed to be the team you cover.
Spell Falk’s name right
Cantescapekarma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.19.2014

Aug 11 @ 10:40 AM ET
No doubt I would love to see Risto in a PHI Jersey however for Couturier is ridiculous. Couturier is a younger Patrice Bergeron. You dont trade a guy like that. Flyers signed Hayes to fill a whole at Center so why would they trade away their #1 C especially for a Dman when the team is currently carrying 8.

The only way I see Risto going to Philly is for one of our Young Dman and by that it means Myers, Morin or Ghost. I cant see the Flyers open to dealing Provorov or Sanheim and Buffalo would not want Niskanen, Braun or Hagg

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I think Buffalo will be looking for a “hockey trade” for a top 6 C or top 6 RW (preferably right shot).

Right now they have a very crowded blue line. They have Risto, Montour, Miller, Bogosian and Jokiharju on the right side. Dahlin, McCabe, Pilut, Scandella, Hunwick on the left. Plus they have a pretty deep pipeline at D. They have a couple guys knocking on the door in the AHL and a few more coming up shortly behind them (within the next couple years). Botterill has really focused on drafting defenseman since he got here.

Where buffalo has a HUGE hole right now is at #2 C and top 6 right wing and everything I’ve read has said that’s what they’re looking for. I think 2C is probably the preference, but RW is a big need too. I also think they would consider any good young top 6 player because they need top 6 guys. It has been said that they want someone who still fits the rebuild though, and has some team control left. Risto is only 24 and has 3yrs left on his deal.

And rumors are that he would actually prefer to add to Risto to get a better player in return vs. trading Risto for a lesser player or package that includes a prospect/pick.

I’m not really sure where there’s a match (around the NHL) though. I can’t really think of a good target offhand. Couturier would be unreal. That’s a dream scenario, and buffalo would obviously add but like you said Philly would never trade him. Why would they? He’s an amazing player on an amazing deal.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
I think Buffalo will be looking for a “hockey trade” for a top 6 C or top 6 RW (preferably right shot).

Right now they have a very crowded blue line. They have Risto, Montour, Miller, Bogosian and Jokiharju on the right side. Dahlin, McCabe, Pilut, Scandella, Hunwick on the left. Plus they have a pretty deep pipeline at D. They have a couple guys knocking on the door in the AHL and a few more coming up shortly behind them (within the next couple years). Botterill has really focused on drafting defenseman since he got here.

Where buffalo has a HUGE hole right now is at #2 C and top 6 right wing and everything I’ve read has said that’s what they’re looking for. I think 2C is probably the preference, but RW is a big need too. I also think they would consider any good young top 6 player because they need top 6 guys. It has been said that they want someone who still fits the rebuild though, and has some team control left. Risto is only 24 and has 3yrs left on his deal.

And rumors are that he would actually prefer to add to Risto to get a better player in return vs. trading Risto for a lesser player or package that includes a prospect/pick.

I’m not really sure where there’s a match (around the NHL) though. I can’t really think of a good target offhand. Couturier would be unreal. That’s a dream scenario, and buffalo would obviously add but like you said Philly would never trade him. Why would they? He’s an amazing player on an amazing deal.

- Cantescapekarma



We would consider Rico for Risto though and maybe both teams could add a pick ...
Cantescapekarma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.19.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:06 AM ET
We would consider Rico for Risto though and maybe both teams could add a pick ...
- dozerD10


He doesn’t really fit the Sabres rebuild timeline. He’s going to be 30 this season.

From what Jason Botterill has said and from what’s been reported, I think the Sabres are hoping to find someone closer to Ristolainen’s age that fits with the team long term.


Now, if you wanted to talk about something around Rakell for Risto (and maybe a +) I’m all ears! lol

I know Rakell’s not going to happen (I can’t imagine Anaheim trading him), but I think that’s more in line with what buffalo is looking for in return. 25/26 or younger, good right shot top 6 player with some term left. If they can’t find a trade like that out there, I think they are fine just keeping Ristolainen. I don’t really think they want to trade him anyway (from what I’ve read/heard they will only trade him if the offer is right). It sounds like Risto asked the team to explore his trade options but I don’t think Botterill is very anxious to trade him. As of now he is still our best right shot defenseman and he plays the most minutes on the team. And I don’t think Botterill wants to see another ROR situation - where a good player is shipped out, put in a much better position to succeed by the new team and then goes on to thrive, making botterill look stupid for trading him.

Buffalo finally has enough defensive depth to actually be the ones to put Risto in a better position to succeed and I think ideally they’d like to see what that looks like. But if another team values him highly enough to offer up something valuable that fills a bigger area of need in Buffalo and still fits their rebuild timeline, they have the depth to make the move now (and five Risto the fresh start he seems to want, but that’s secondary IMO).
atc
Joined: 09.30.2006

Aug 11 @ 11:57 AM ET
Since when is Risto a "winner" ? Or even a leader for that matter ?
- Goalieguy43




Sabres are just a poopty team.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
He doesn’t really fit the Sabres rebuild timeline. He’s going to be 30 this season.

From what Jason Botterill has said and from what’s been reported, I think the Sabres are hoping to find someone closer to Ristolainen’s age that fits with the team long term.


Now, if you wanted to talk about something around Rakell for Risto (and maybe a +) I’m all ears! lol

I know Rakell’s not going to happen (I can’t imagine Anaheim trading him), but I think that’s more in line with what buffalo is looking for in return. 25/26 or younger, good right shot top 6 player with some term left. If they can’t find a trade like that out there, I think they are fine just keeping Ristolainen. I don’t really think they want to trade him anyway (from what I’ve read/heard they will only trade him if the offer is right). It sounds like Risto asked the team to explore his trade options but I don’t think Botterill is very anxious to trade him. As of now he is still our best right shot defenseman and he plays the most minutes on the team. And I don’t think Botterill wants to see another ROR situation - where a good player is shipped out, put in a much better position to succeed by the new team and then goes on to thrive, making botterill look stupid for trading him.

Buffalo finally has enough defensive depth to actually be the ones to put Risto in a better position to succeed and I think ideally they’d like to see what that looks like. But if another team values him highly enough to offer up something valuable that fills a bigger area of need in Buffalo and still fits their rebuild timeline, they have the depth to make the move now (and five Risto the fresh start he seems to want, but that’s secondary IMO).

- Cantescapekarma


Well Garth said.... and look I don't know how plugged in Garth is but that Risto is now 3rd or even 4th RHD in the lineup - and that Risto is not down with that at all.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This is not about crashing costs for the sake of crashing cost. This is about lip stick. -Spatso
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
Sabres already got a veritable treasure trove of assets for Evander Kane. So they could afford to fall short of the 5 premium assets for ROR.
- gergeswillems


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