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blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Aug 12 @ 9:18 AM ET
Brukie has a unique way of putting it BUT hes covered all his bets

1. By saying the pessimistic values about FA's or NYR anything it embraces him like a warm blanket in the winter , IF hes wrong , hes so happy with elation and great results he says "I'm so glad i was wrong and jumps on the band wagon along with all the rest of us ,BUT if he's right ,well.... he is spared the fall from hope & expectations,he sits back & crows ...I told you so !!!...
Now its not a bad plan but to coin a phrase ..

"Its better to have & loved & lost THEN to never to have loved at ALL".....

You lose out on all the after glow we get & satisfaction from our team when we won something like a #2 draft slot : most would dream & vision & enjoy the positive scenarios... YOU SEE ALL that can go wrong :

I will leave you with this IF the Catherine Zeta Jone s or Munn of your life came to you and showed you the promised land ,your 1st thought would be ..
" HOW INADEQUATE IM GOING TO MAKE HER FEEL AFTER SHE SEES & GETS SUM OF MINE"

PESSIMISM SUCKS THE LIFE OUT OF YOU CAUSE OF FEAR ..
DONT BE AFRAID ,IT DONT HURT TO BE DISAPPOINTED ,ITS A HUMAN THING

- NASHTYGUY


Can't argue with this, the way Brukie put his comments in it looked like he was arguing with himself.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: You're exactly the problem with trying to have a conversation on here. - Tanner
Joined: 12.13.2013

Aug 12 @ 9:25 AM ET
37 days till the first pre-season game...

rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 12 @ 9:25 AM ET
Can't argue with this, the way Brukie put his comments in it looked like he was arguing with himself.
- blueshirts_fan



He's a man at odds with himself
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 12 @ 9:57 AM ET
Gotta clear cap space to re-sign Jesper Fast
- dashripdot

Love everyone who rips on Fast. Meanwhile on a really good team, as a fourth line winger, you need that type to win.
tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: Branchburg, NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

Aug 12 @ 10:00 AM ET
Love everyone who rips on Fast. Meanwhile on a really good team, as a fourth line winger, you need that type to win.
- airjan23



Guy makes peanuts and is a solid homegrown NHLer - never understood the level of hate. He is one of our few later rounders who actually stuck.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 12 @ 10:29 AM ET
Guy makes peanuts and is a solid homegrown NHLer - never understood the level of hate. He is one of our few later rounders who actually stuck.
- tbreinold


The guy is a perfect modern day NHL depth player: he fits really well on the bottom 6, but can slide up in a pinch if needed and not look lost. However, he makes just under 2 million which is not peanuts for that role. I'm 100% on board with letting him walk after the season. Anything can happen, but almost 0 chance he'd sign for anything less than 2 million and you just can't pay bottom 6 types that kind of money in the cap era. We have plenty of perfectly cromulent guys coming up like Morgan Barron who could probably replace him making the league minimum on an ELC.
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Aug 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
The guy is a perfect modern day NHL depth player: he fits really well on the bottom 6, but can slide up in a pinch if needed and not look lost. However, he makes just under 2 million which is not peanuts for that role. I'm 100% on board with letting him walk after the season. Anything can happen, but almost 0 chance he'd sign for anything less than 2 million and you just can't pay bottom 6 types that kind of money in the cap era. We have plenty of perfectly cromulent guys coming up like Morgan Barron who could probably replace him making the league minimum on an ELC.
- 2sticks1puck

cornell poised to have a good year? they finished 9th last year, and hopefully barron has a big year - plays well and signs after the season.
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 12 @ 10:45 AM ET
So what is the tipping point price tag for Fast? $2.5M?
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 12 @ 10:49 AM ET
So what is the tipping point price tag for Fast? $2.5M?
- Maskdman3


Honestly, I really wouldn't sign him for what he makes now. It was different a few years ago when we were close to competing and we had no real replacements. Currently we are rebuilding and we have several young players who I feel who could step in nicely and replace most of what Fast brought for half the price. For me it's a slam dunk not to resign Fast.

I don't want to sound like I'm knocking Fast, he's good for what he does. It's just not a good way to run the cap paying those type of players.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 12 @ 11:12 AM ET
cornell poised to have a good year? they finished 9th last year, and hopefully barron has a big year - plays well and signs after the season.
- NYRangers1124


Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 12 @ 11:28 AM ET
Honestly, I really wouldn't sign him for what he makes now. It was different a few years ago when we were close to competing and we had no real replacements. Currently we are rebuilding and we have several young players who I feel who could step in nicely and replace most of what Fast brought for half the price. For me it's a slam dunk not to resign Fast.

I don't want to sound like I'm knocking Fast, he's good for what he does. It's just not a good way to run the cap paying those type of players.

- 2sticks1puck

Sorry, disagree. I think we have players that potentially can do that, but unsure any have that direct skill set. Boo Nieves? Brendan Lemieux likely fits the bill, but with a bit more offensive talent. But he will be pricey soon as well. Maybe McKegg or Di Giuseppe but Carolina let them go, so the jury is out there.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 12 @ 11:35 AM ET
Sorry, disagree. I think we have players that potentially can do that, but unsure any have that direct skill set. Boo Nieves? Brendan Lemieux likely fits the bill, but with a bit more offensive talent. But he will be pricey soon as well. Maybe McKegg or Di Giuseppe but Carolina let them go, so the jury is out there.
- airjan23


Who also makes less and might have the exact same role as Fast while being younger, providing more offensive ability, and making less money. I've brought up Barron as a potential replacement. If Lias doesn't meet expectations, it's also possible that he could establish himself as a Malhotra type player while also making less money. To all the people who want to resign Fast, what exactly does Fast bring that's unique and worth signing him to 2+ million a year? Even if you can only replace 80% of what Fast does, but at 50% of the cost, it's much better worth it in the long run.

You just don't pay for bottom 6 players. Especially when you have suitable replacments of can sign a decent 4th liner like a Mckegg for a million tops.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
Who also makes less and might have the exact same role as Fast while being younger, providing more offensive ability, and making less money. I've brought up Barron as a potential replacement. If Lias doesn't meet expectations, it's also possible that he could establish himself as a Malhotra type player while also making less money. To all the people who want to resign Fast, what exactly does Fast bring that's unique and worth signing him to 2+ million a year? Even if you can only replace 80% of what Fast does, but at 50% of the cost, it's much better worth it in the long run.

You just don't pay for bottom 6 players. Especially when you have suitable replacments of can sign a decent 4th liner like a Mckegg for a million tops.

- 2sticks1puck

He makes less now, maybe, but not for long. Plus, we don't know if he will accept the QO. Hopefully, he signs a two-year deal and stays under $1.85 mil. But that doesn't mean the team doesn't need both players.

Fast can move up and down the lineup. Play in the top-six when needed. Fill a spot on the penalty kill. Plus $1.85 mil, when minimum salary may close to a mil, is not a high salary.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Aug 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
Happy for the Rangers and their fans.

It's about time teams like Toronto and the NYR go full scorched earth rebuild. Its exciting times, or will be soon, for Ranger fans.

- systemtool

NOT saying it's happening now folks but imagine a Ranger/Leafs ECF?
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Aug 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
He makes less now, maybe, but not for long. Plus, we don't know if he will accept the QO. Hopefully, he signs a two-year deal and stays under $1.85 mil. But that doesn't mean the team doesn't need both players.

Fast can move up and down the lineup. Play in the top-six when needed. Fill a spot on the penalty kill. Plus $1.85 mil, when minimum salary may close to a mil, is not a high salary.

- airjan23

FAST is so versatile and underrated, love him. Perfect bottom six player.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 12 @ 11:57 AM ET
pending NCAA free agents on August 15th



Ive heard Priskie is the best one
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Aug 12 @ 12:01 PM ET
pending NCAA free agents on August 15th



Ive heard Priskie is the best one

- jimbo83

I SEE the original Jimbo is back.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Aug 12 @ 12:03 PM ET
FAST is so versatile and underrated, love him. Perfect bottom six player.
- B2B76


I don't disagree with that statement. My whole point is you don't pay guys like that over 2 million. One of the most exciting things about this team right now is the sheer quantity and quality of the youth coming up. We all know unless one gets moved or position changed that Buch, Kravs, and Kakko will have the top 3 RW on lock down for several seasons to come. You can't tell me out of all those young guys that you can't find one to play the remaining 8-9 min a night. I can see Kakko evolving into one of our best PK guys, so I don't even think we need to keep Fast around for that.

There's a real possibility that within a couple seasons we could be rolling 4 lines that can all score. There's no reason to have to employ a grinder for more money.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
I SEE the original Jimbo is back.
- B2B76


B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Aug 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
I don't disagree with that statement. My whole point is you don't pay guys like that over 2 million. One of the most exciting things about this team right now is the sheer quantity and quality of the youth coming up. We all know unless one gets moved or position changed that Buch, Kravs, and Kakko will have the top 3 RW on lock down for several seasons to come. You can't tell me out of all those young guys that you can't find one to play the remaining 8-9 min a night. I can see Kakko evolving into one of our best PK guys, so I don't even think we need to keep Fast around for that.

There's a real possibility that within a couple seasons we could be rolling 4 lines that can all score. There's no reason to have to employ a grinder for more money.

- 2sticks1puck

I hear you, didn't realize that was your point. Yea its especially hard when we have big $$$ tied up in a few players.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Aug 12 @ 12:05 PM ET

- jimbo83

Is Jambo Delta still around lurking somewhere?
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Aug 12 @ 12:07 PM ET
Damn, just realized its been 11 years almost since I've been here and I lurked as a reader for a good year + before that.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Aug 12 @ 12:07 PM ET
Is Jambo Delta still around lurking somewhere?
- B2B76


he's haunting some hockey blog somewhere I imagine
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Aug 12 @ 12:12 PM ET
he's haunting some hockey blog somewhere I imagine
- jimbo83

I tried my old Ozzy alter ego but forgot the password so he is gone.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 12 @ 12:14 PM ET
Love everyone who rips on Fast. Meanwhile on a really good team, as a fourth line winger, you need that type to win.
- airjan23

Context: My post was tongue-in-cheek, and in response to the criticisms of signing Panarin and Trouba in light of the cap issues. Sure it's great to have a few role-players like that as long as they remain on cheaper contracts.
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