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mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Aug 12 @ 10:51 PM ET
Not true and totally your opinion. Toews is only as good as the players on his line and was nothing more than a product of Hossa. I read it here so it's a fact.
- HawkintheD


You catch on fast, my friend.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Aug 13 @ 6:58 AM ET
[quote=DarthKane]I got THN annual pool guide, here are their predictions for the Blackhawks:

Kane 94 points
Strome 75
DeBrincat 70
Toews 67
Saad 50
Gustafsson 47
Shaw 41
Keith 36
Perlini 31
Smith 31
Seabrook 27
Kubalik 25
Cagguila 25
Kampf 20
Määttä 19
Nylander 18
Koekkoek 18
Sikura 18 (I think they mean 81)
Wedin 18
de Haan 16
Boqvist 16 (maybe in Rockford)
Carpenter 15
Murphy 14

Crawford 28 wins
Lehner 14

No Dach!!!....damn, guess he didn't make the team!!
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Aug 13 @ 7:43 AM ET
And the Hawks seem to have picked up a few first round picks who couldn't make it on other teams. These could be true gems in the long run.
- Garn.


Or they could be Yakipov
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Aug 13 @ 7:43 AM ET
I thought we weren't supposed to post possible line combinations...............
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 13 @ 7:57 AM ET
[quote=DarthKane]I got THN annual pool guide, here are their predictions for the Blackhawks:

Kane 94 points
Strome 75
DeBrincat 70
Toews 67
Saad 50
Gustafsson 47
Shaw 41
Keith 36
Perlini 31
Smith 31
Seabrook 27
Kubalik 25
Cagguila 25
Kampf 20
Määttä 19
Nylander 18
Koekkoek 18
Sikura 18 (I think they mean 81)
Wedin 18
de Haan 16
Boqvist 16 (maybe in Rockford)
Carpenter 15
Murphy 14

Crawford 28 wins
Lehner 14

No Dach!!!....damn, guess he didn't make the team!!

- hawk35


They also posted predictions for breakout rookies for the nest few years... Dach wasn't on any of the lists. Stan fails again.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Aug 13 @ 7:59 AM ET
Why is Miami retiring Luongo’s number?

He was there for only 6 seasons - only one playoff series - no Vezina finalist seasons there....

- StLBravesFan

Brandon Pirri is still playing in the league kinda.
Cmonalready
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 13 @ 8:36 AM ET
Just because we disagree , I've been restrained unlike that bumhole whom always starts poop . Andmive never said anything yo anyone whom I disagreed with that was derogatory.
- Taylorst1


Funny. Pls reread your post and see if you still stand behind this statement. Particularly focus on the word "ignorant".
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 13 @ 8:38 AM ET
Funny. Pls reread your post and see if you still stand behind this statement. Particularly focus on the word "ignorant".
- Cmonalready


Well sure...you had to go focus on the details now. Omit all that and the statement is 100% fact, as are Taylor’s assertions on Bicks, Toes and any of the other bums he’s factually portrayed.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 13 @ 8:40 AM ET
Not true and totally your opinion. Toews is only as good as the players on his line and was nothing more than a product of Hossa. I read it here so it's a fact.
- HawkintheD

And now he's a third line center behind Dach and Strome.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 13 @ 8:40 AM ET
Well sure...you had to go focus on the details now. Omit all that and the statement is 100% fact!
- HawkintheD

I hate it when facts get in the way.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 13 @ 8:41 AM ET
And now he's a third line center behind Dach and Strome.
- paulr


I’m betting he’ll be behind Kampf by the season’s halfway point.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Aug 13 @ 9:09 AM ET
I’m betting he’ll be behind Kampf by the season’s halfway point.
- HawkintheD


As the 13th forward. But we need to get rid of alternate captain toxic (Seabs) first.
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 13 @ 9:21 AM ET
Well sure...you had to go focus on the details now. Omit all that and the statement is 100% fact, as are Taylor’s assertions on Bicks, Toes and any of the other bums he’s factually portrayed.
- HawkintheD

I’m guessing you didn’t actually read or comprehend what he wrote.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 13 @ 9:24 AM ET
As the 13th forward. But we need to get rid of alternate captain toxic (Seabs) first.
- I Am The Breadman

Strip the “A” from his jersey, and ship him off to Yucca Mountain
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 13 @ 9:25 AM ET
As the 13th forward. But we need to get rid of alternate captain toxic (Seabs) first.
- I Am The Breadman


Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Aug 13 @ 9:32 AM ET
Strip the “A” from his jersey, and ship him off to Yucca Mountain
- Ogilthorpe2


Se brook. Got it.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Aug 13 @ 9:37 AM ET
So you're saying it's right up there with...


- Beaver-Warrior

Presidents Trophy lol. Regular Season Champs!
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 13 @ 9:38 AM ET
[quote=DarthKane]I got THN annual pool guide, here are their predictions for the Blackhawks:

Kane 94 points
Strome 75
DeBrincat 70
Toews 67
Saad 50
Gustafsson 47
Shaw 41
Keith 36
Perlini 31
Smith 31
Seabrook 27
Kubalik 25
Cagguila 25
Kampf 20
Määttä 19
Nylander 18
Koekkoek 18
Sikura 18 (I think they mean 81)
Wedin 18
de Haan 16
Boqvist 16 (maybe in Rockford)
Carpenter 15
Murphy 14

Crawford 28 wins
Lehner 14

No Dach!!!....damn, guess he didn't make the team!!

- hawk35

What nobody is saying is how much 75 points will cost trying to sign Strome that's a very high number. Higher than Toews usually gets...
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Aug 13 @ 9:47 AM ET
What nobody is saying is how much 75 points will cost trying to sign Strome that's a very high number. Higher than Toews usually gets...

- rpeters01


Nobody is saying it because he hasn't scored 75 points in the NHL. It is entirely possible he might not ever hit that level over the course of an 82 game season. The coach might have him focus on his play in his own end and who knows, maybe he slumps and loses some of that cherry PP time and it snowballs into a less offensive season. Maybe Alex Debrincat breaks an ankle and Strome can't click with his buddy. Wait and see how it plays out because a lot of things could happen and him matching his first stint here with the Hawks is not a given.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 13 @ 10:00 AM ET
You just made my point. Everyone who is defending Bickell as if he was some power forward top 6 great player is being dishonest.

Bickell was a 4th line player , very streaky and he had one great post season that was amazing sure, but Stan and everyone jumped the gun and suddenly thought Bickell was this breakout gem , and as we know the ending he wasn't a elite player, because 2 years later he was traded for 2 reasons cap space and he was expendable because of his numbers.

Would you say darling is a great goalie ? I mean by your thinking his great run makes him elite so darlings outstanding play in 2015 playoff run is why Chicago advanced out of the 1st round.

Or how about handzus

- Taylorst1


Not saying he was a top six power forward, but I am saying I’m not sure we win the Cup 2015 without him.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Aug 13 @ 10:10 AM ET
I got THN annual pool guide, here are their predictions for the Blackhawks:

Kane 94 points
Strome 75
DeBrincat 70
Toews 67
Saad 50
Gustafsson 47
Shaw 41
Keith 36
Perlini 31
Smith 31
Seabrook 27
Kubalik 25
Cagguila 25
Kampf 20
Määttä 19
Nylander 18
Koekkoek 18
Sikura 18 (I think they mean 81)
Wedin 18
de Haan 16
Boqvist 16 (maybe in Rockford)
Carpenter 15
Murphy 14

Crawford 28 wins
Lehner 14

- DarthKane


42 wins equals 84 points. Add about 10 for OTL and the total will be 94 points. That would have made the playoffs last year, and is an increase of 10 points for the Hawks from last year.

Looking at last year's 8 Western conference teams that made the playoffs, their GA ranged from 202 (DAL) to 261 (SJS). Throw out SJS and the next worse team among the 7, COL, had 246 GA.

In the East last year, the range was 196 (NYI ) to 251 (TOR). Montreal, who didn't make the playoffs, had 232 GA.

Last season, 16 of 17 teams that had a plus differential in goals for versus goals against made the playoffs. Montreal being the exception.

Last year, the Hawks had 292 GA and 270 GF. Hopefully the Hawks can reduce their GA this season by at least 0.5 per game and bring in down to below 250. If the Hawks sacrifice some offense to play a more defensive game and can score around 255 or 260 goals that should put them in the playoffs.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
42 wins equals 84 points. Add about 10 for OTL and the total will be 94 points. That would have made the playoffs last year, and is an increase of 10 points for the Hawks from last year.

Looking at last year's 8 Western conference teams that made the playoffs, their GA ranged from 202 (DAL) to 261 (SJS). Throw out SJS and the next worse team among the 7, COL, had 246 GA.

In the East last year, the range was 196 (NYI ) to 251 (TOR). Montreal, who didn't make the playoffs, had 232 GA.

Last season, 16 of 17 teams that had a plus differential in goals for versus goals against made the playoffs. Montreal being the exception.

Last year, the Hawks had 292 GA and 270 GF. Hopefully the Hawks can reduce their GA this season by at least 0.5 per game and bring in down to below 250. If the Hawks sacrifice some offense to play a more defensive game and can score around 255 or 260 goals that should put them in the playoffs.

- boilermaker100



I think the Hawks GA will be drastically reduced. Their GF may suffer a bit as a result but they'll have a positive differential. I think the additions of de Haan and Maatta have been understated. While they may not be super stars they are solid verteran d-men who know their role. During the last 2 Cup runs Oduya and Hjalmarsson were just as important as Keith and Seabrook. #4 and #27 certainly were not flashy players but they got the job done.

Note: I am not directly comparing de Haan and Maatta to Hjalmarsson and Oduya, this comment was for illustration purposes only.

Plus, adding Smith and Carpenter should help make the forward group better defensively (and Shaw to a lesser degree).

Lehner is head an shoulders above Ward and Delia. He might even be better than Crawford at this point (as a big #50 fan that takes a lot for me to say).

Sometimes the best moves aren't the biggest most popular moves.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Aug 13 @ 10:45 AM ET
I think the Hawks GA will be drastically reduced. Their GF may suffer a bit as a result but they'll have a positive differential. I think the additions of de Haan and Maatta have been understated. While they may not be super stars they are solid verteran d-men who know their role. During the last 2 Cup runs Oduya and Hjalmarsson were just as important as Keith and Seabrook. #4 and #27 certainly were not flashy players but they got the job done.

Note: I am not directly comparing de Haan and Maatta to Hjalmarsson and Oduya, this comment was for illustration purposes only.

Plus, adding Smith and Carpenter should help make the forward group better defensively (and Shaw to a lesser degree).

Lehner is head an shoulders above Ward and Delia. He might even be better than Crawford at this point (as a big #50 fan that takes a lot for me to say).

Sometimes the best moves aren't the biggest most popular moves.

- DarthKane


DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 13 @ 11:03 AM ET

- Rota's Rooter




Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Aug 13 @ 11:12 AM ET
Who we hatin on today guys??

Also in Tyler's blog , he mentioned that Toews and Kane are ADB and Strome are givens. With the history of Shaw and Saad together having chemistry, I think the third line should be Saad, Shaw and xxx. Need to fill one spot on each of the three lines.
- LAHawk


This has kinda been my thinking as well. It's easier to plug in a guy to a line when you already have good chemistry with two-thirds of your line rather than try to get three guys to find chemistry. Really it comes down to who's gonna walk out of camp with the 3C role to start the season, because if Dach takes the role they could walk into the season with three talented lines and tough 4th line to play against. If he doesn't then Shaw might need to take that role for a little while IF the wingers fighting for roles play well.
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