He’s a Canuck fan. What the Canucks do is a concern to him. I doubt he’s giving other gm’s a free pass, he just doesn’t give a shlt what they do because why would he? Is Dorian keeping you up at night?

Edit:

Not to put words in anyone’s mouth.
- CubanBuffet

Do is one thing. Might do is entirely different. I simply think anyone is paranoid who worries about anything negative that hasn’t happened. Some would call it Benning bashing in advance.

So what world problems will we resolve today?
- bloatedmosquito

Well hopefully no one here is travelling to Hong Kong anytime soon...

Also, given the situation he has had to deal with, I think Dorion has actually done a pretty good job.


Also, that rose was delicious, just ordered a case!
- 1970vintage

What Rose' was it?

What Rose' was it?
- LordHumungous

Marichel - in Naramata, specialize in Syrah wines. Very good. I think I paid $20 for a bottle of rose at a private retailer, it's $14.99 wholesale.

Marichel - in Naramata, specialize in Syrah wines. Very good. I think I paid $20 for a bottle of rose at a private retailer, it's $14.99 wholesale.
- 1970vintage

Right on thx good to know. I'll check around here for it but will probably have to order it.

He’s a Canuck fan. What the Canucks do is a concern to him. I doubt he’s giving other gm’s a free pass, he just doesn’t give a shlt what they do because why would he? Is Dorian keeping you up at night?

Edit:

Not to put words in anyone’s mouth.
- CubanBuffet

It's the thinking of some that Benning has to "steal" or flat out win every trade he makes. The thinking that's he's "fleecing" the other GM's all the time.

They will take whatever us fans will offer for the player because the other teams has "issues".

Jim said he thought he paid a "fair" price for Miller. "Fair" isn't good enough to some. It's not either end of the spectrum.

It's not as if there isn't another team in the trade that's GM is going to just roll over and summit.

lol

Here we go...
- LordHumungous

In the Loungo Jersey retirement game vs Boston. Gaunce scores off of Eriksson's butt for the game winning goal with seconds left in the third.

In the Loungo Jersey retirement game vs Boston. Gaunce scores off of Eriksson's butt for the game winning goal with seconds left in the third.
- manvanfan

More like Ericsson will bank one off the boards off Gaunce's ass into our own net.

It's the thinking of some that Benning has to "steal" or flat out win every trade he makes. The thinking that's he's "fleecing" the other GM's all the time.

They will take whatever us fans will offer for the player because the other teams has "issues".

Jim said he thought he paid a "fair" price for Miller. "Fair" isn't good enough to some. It's not either end of the spectrum.

It's not as if there isn't another team in the trade that's GM is going to just roll over and summit.
- manvanfan

This isn't true at all. Those of us critical of Benning would like to see him win just one trade, any trade. He thinks the Miller deal was "fair" others think he paid too much. Is there anyone who thinks it wasn't enough? I have not heard one fan, member of the media, blogger, twitter addict say it was a steal. That alone should tell you something...

This isn't true at all. Those of us critical of Benning would like to see him win just one trade, any trade. He thinks the Miller deal was "fair" others think he paid too much. Is there anyone who thinks it wasn't enough? I have not heard one fan, member of the media, blogger, twitter addict say it was a steal. That alone should tell you something...
- 1970vintage

Thoughts on J.T. Miller trade?
They paid too much!
36%, 1083 VOTES
Right price!
15%, 440 VOTES
Wait and see
29%, 867 VOTES
They are better for the now but it might hurt in the long run
19%, 578 VOTES
Total Votes: 2968

There are the votes for what Benning paid for Miller on Canucksarmy poll.

Grady Sas freaking out over Twitter about "EA sports Fantasy trades". Maybe the perception you get from the other fans and media is just that of fantasy of as you think what "might" have been a good price.

I posted two other trades this morning that what GM's paid a 2nd and a 3rd for. Both of those were lesser players than Miller. If Benning pays a 2nd and a 3rd. I almost guarantee your first thought would be that, the trade is a steal.

Just for random look at the Sven Baertschi trade on how that 2nd round pick would be doing right now.

Sven has played 219 games for the Canucks. Scored 108 points.

2nd round picks since the 2015 draft when Sven was traded away,

Sebastion Aho and Alex Debrincat are the only two players that have more points than Sven.

Just for random look at the Sven Baertschi trade on how that 2nd round pick would be doing right now.

Sven has played 219 games for the Canucks. Scored 108 points.

2nd round picks since the 2015 draft when Sven was traded away,

Sebastion Aho and Alex Debrincat are the only two players that have more points than Sven.
- manvanfan

I’d trade Sven for Andersson easily, but to be to fair to JB, it was difficult to predict that Sven would now (potentially) be another hit to the head away from being out of the league.

Plus who knows who the Canucks would’ve drafted with that pick.

Thoughts on J.T. Miller trade?
They paid too much!
36%, 1083 VOTES
Right price!
15%, 440 VOTES
Wait and see
29%, 867 VOTES
They are better for the now but it might hurt in the long run
19%, 578 VOTES
Total Votes: 2968

There are the votes for what Benning paid for Miller on Canucksarmy poll.

Grady Sas freaking out over Twitter about "EA sports Fantasy trades". Maybe the perception you get from the other fans and media is just that of fantasy of as you think what "might" have been a good price.

I posted two other trades this morning that what GM's paid a 2nd and a 3rd for. Both of those were lesser players than Miller. If Benning pays a 2nd and a 3rd. I almost guarantee your first thought would be that, the trade is a steal.
- manvanfan

So you have just supported my point completely. 100% of those votes do not think it was too little, and the other players traded for a 2+3 (in your opinion) are not as good.

A good trade should make both sides uncomfortable, meaning both fan bases don’t really like what they gave vs what they got back.

And yes, if he had gotten TJ for a 2nd and a 3rd I would have said “Well done Jim, you finally came out on the winning end of a trade”

This isn't true at all. Those of us critical of Benning would like to see him win just one trade, any trade. He thinks the Miller deal was "fair" others think he paid too much. Is there anyone who thinks it wasn't enough? I have not heard one fan, member of the media, blogger, twitter addict say it was a steal. That alone should tell you something...
- 1970vintage

So those of you saying Benning has lost every trade are the only ppl critical of him?

This isn't true at all. Those of us critical of Benning would like to see him win just one trade, any trade. He thinks the Miller deal was "fair" others think he paid too much. Is there anyone who thinks it wasn't enough? I have not heard one fan, member of the media, blogger, twitter addict say it was a steal. That alone should tell you something...
- 1970vintage

Canucks finalizing deal to get JT miller, draft picks going the other way - per bob Mckenzie
- Codes1087

Noooooo
- manvanfan

3rd and 6th?
- manvanfan

45-50 point player max so far in his career. Barely a 2nd line player
- manvanfan

Baertschi's replacement because Baert can't stay healthy

2.4 million dollars more per year
- manvanfan

reports that the trade DOES NOT include the Canucks 2nd round pick, but starts with the third. multiple picks going though.
- Codes1087

Acceptable
- manvanfan

4 more years at 5.25 aav. Can play all 3 positions and is 26 years old.
- Codes1087

I thought he was 5.75 my mistake. Slightly better
- manvanfan

the tune changes once the trade gets officially announced.
https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=160362&page=10

Just for random look at the Sven Baertschi trade on how that 2nd round pick would be doing right now.

Sven has played 219 games for the Canucks. Scored 108 points.

2nd round picks since the 2015 draft when Sven was traded away,

Sebastion Aho and Alex Debrincat are the only two players that have more points than Sven.
- manvanfan

That was part of the “staying competitive” Sedin era. I’m pretty sure you and everyone else would love to have a young, top 4 RHD ready to take on the NHL right about now.

So those of you saying Benning has lost every trade are the only ppl critical of him?
- Nighthawk

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I have no idea what you are talking about.
- 1970vintage

You claim Benning never won a trade.
Turned your narrative into lost every trade.
Difficult to understand or don’t like this game?

So you have just supported my point completely. 100% of those votes do not think it was too little, and the other players traded for a 2+3 (in your opinion) are not as good.

A good trade should make both sides uncomfortable, meaning both fan bases don’t really like what they gave vs what they got back.

And yes, if he had gotten TJ for a 2nd and a 3rd I would have said “Well done Jim, you finally came out on the winning end of a trade”
- 1970vintage

If you are saying "well done, Jim" Julien Brisebois is getting fired.

I didn't support anything other than you don't know the outcome of the trade but are calling it a loss. I'm not sure how you managed to see it that way but from the poll I see 2000 people that haven't rushed to "Jim lost the trade" and 1000 people that are living an EA sports world.

Let’s hear some examples of trades won by other GM’s. Also GM’s that failed or spent more. Then rate Benning amongst his peers.

4 more years at 5.25 aav. Can play all 3 positions and is 26 years old.
- Codes1087



the tune changes once the trade gets officially announced.
https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=160362&page=10
- RealityChecker

So after what I found out what he was traded for I claimed it to be an "acceptable" trade yet somehow I've changed my stance? Even though I feel it's still an acceptable trade.

Solid work.

So after what I found out what he was traded for I claimed it to be an "acceptable" trade yet somehow I've changed my stance? Even though I feel it's still an acceptable trade.

Solid work.
- manvanfan

You said acceptable when you thought that the 3rd was the highest pick going.

Keep 🕺 dancing.

So after what I found out what he was traded for I claimed it to be an "acceptable" trade yet somehow I've changed my stance? Even though I feel it's still an acceptable trade.

Solid work.
- manvanfan

If you think giving up a 1st and 3rd is acceptable for "barely a 2nd line player" then sure.

You said acceptable when you thought that the 3rd was the highest pick going.

Keep 🕺 dancing.
- RealityChecker

They should NEVER be trading first round picks. Despite the conditions being favourable for the Canucks in a strong 2020 draft, and the Canucks not slated to become a playoff team next year, its still an absolute awful trade and Tampa just fleeced us.
- Codes1087

With Miller, team does have a much better shot at the playoffs
-manvanfan

P.S. this was after the trade was announced officially.

Do you see me squawking?

2019 3rd

+

2020 or 2021 1st



it's 2020 first rounder they gave up if the Canucks make the playoffs, if they miss the playoffs then it's the 2021 1st round pick they give up no matter what
- Nucker101

I'm just sad that Van doesn't have a 3rd round pick.

Basically all the players I wanted in the third round have now been taken though
-manvanfan

If you think giving up a 1st and 3rd is acceptable for "barely a 2nd line player" then sure.
- golfingsince

What does a 1st & 3rd get in your opinion?