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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 13 @ 6:50 PM ET


- golfingsince

Great movie
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Aug 13 @ 6:50 PM ET
Would you trade Madden and Podkolzin for Miller (has they not already acquired him)?
- 1970vintage

Would you Trade JV and Lockwood or Brisbois for Miller? I sure as hell would.

Would you trade Gaunce and Lockwood or Brisbois for Miller? I sure a shell would.

This game is fun!
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 13 @ 6:51 PM ET
Again only if it’s long term help. I don’t see it if for picks. 10/90
- Nighthawk


I think you're mistaken. I think if they're close or in by a few points they buy. I'd say 70-30 10% chance they do nothing.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 13 @ 6:52 PM ET
No, he traded a 1st for a 2nd line player while the team should still be re-building, in my hater, not a real fan opinion.
Also, Myers is a bottom pairing d-man.

- Marwood

A 1st for known quantity i can live with especially cuz it filled need well.

Myers is top 4 paired & played properly. I didn’t think the Jets D was impressive. Buff isn’t a great top pairing D with the mistakes he makes & silly pims. Bottom pairing is too harsh imo
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 13 @ 6:53 PM ET
I think he might be better than some at drafting but I don't think he's any kind of drafting guru. Keep in mind that I am a miserable whiner.
- Marwood

He’s top 5 or 10 with some prospects that will decide it better given time to develop.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:55 PM ET
Would you Trade JV and Lockwood or Brisbois for Miller? I sure as hell would.

Would you trade Gaunce and Lockwood or Brisbois for Miller? I sure a shell would.

This game is fun!

- Retinalz


Pretty sure they won’t be picking in the high 20’s.

And you’re not giving JB squared much credit for their improved scouting/drafting.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 13 @ 6:55 PM ET
I find the optimism just as unfounded.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Touché 😂👍

I take optimism vs pessimism this offseason
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Aug 13 @ 7:06 PM ET
Pretty sure they won’t be picking in the high 20’s.

And you’re not giving JB squared much credit for their improved scouting/drafting.

- 1970vintage

And you're suggesting that every 1st and 3rd he picks will be gold. We have a real chance at playoffs this season and next. Especially if Markstrom plays like he did last year and Demko is better than Nilsson. Our Forward groups is much improved, as is our defense. We were right in the thick of the playoff hunt before EP dried up. I doubt that happens again this year with our improvements.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 13 @ 7:07 PM ET
When Benning has his mind made up he is more committed than Dr. John Hammond.
- 1970vintage


He's like the Hubble when he focuses on a player. At least he wasnt just focused on something so one dimensional as size and speed with Miller. Thats how we end up with the Gudbransons. Miller stacks up nicely when you look at the research.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 13 @ 7:09 PM ET
lol

Here we go...

- LordHumungous



golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 13 @ 7:11 PM ET
A 1st for known quantity i can live with especially cuz it filled need well.

Myers is top 4 paired & played properly. I didn’t think the Jets D was impressive. Buff isn’t a great top pairing D with the mistakes he makes & silly pims. Bottom pairing is too harsh imo

- Nighthawk

Yeah so he's a 4-5 dman. That's a lot of coin to commit to that player for 5 years.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Aug 13 @ 7:13 PM ET
Yeah so he's a 4-5 dman. That's a lot of coin to commit to that player for 5 years.
- golfingsince

Myers is better than Risto and didn't cost us any assets. That is a win.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 13 @ 7:14 PM ET
I’d trade Sven for Andersson easily, but to be to fair to JB, it was difficult to predict that Sven would now (potentially) be another hit to the head away from being out of the league.

Plus who knows who the Canucks would’ve drafted with that pick.

- Nucker101


Sven was tracking to be a 30 goal scorer last season. The signs of career season and him being a game changer were all there. It's unfortunate.

I'm glad he played the wolds and came out healthy. There's hope he will be significant in one capacity or another for the Canucks. If he's healthy and they trade him or he picks up where he left off with his PPG last season... will all be good for the Canucks.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 13 @ 7:16 PM ET
Myers is better than Risto and didn't cost us any assets. That is a win.
- Retinalz

Check back in 3 years.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 13 @ 7:17 PM ET
And you're suggesting that every 1st and 3rd he picks will be gold. We have a real chance at playoffs this season and next. Especially if Markstrom plays like he did last year and Demko is better than Nilsson. Our Forward groups is much improved, as is our defense. We were right in the thick of the playoff hunt before EP dried up. I doubt that happens again this year with our improvements.
- Retinalz

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 13 @ 7:19 PM ET
No one can complain about benn, ferland, miller and myers as acquisitions. As players, there is literally nothing to complain about, as they improve the team. My only gripe was and always has been the price for miller (not the player, cause I like him). Not to re hash this, but I thought we had tampa in a position to take advantage of, trade wise, and I thought giving up a 1st was a premium price from a team that wasnt really in a position to do so. That's all.
- Codes1087


Hubble Telescope syndrome. Benning has it in trade mode.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 13 @ 7:22 PM ET
EP has had 1 really good season, let's tap the brakes a bit. Many highly skilled but undersized forwards don't do very well in the playoffs. Hughes has played 5 games, and yes he is dynamic. Dominant is a different word though.
- golfingsince


One of the things I like about EP, Boeser and Horvat is these guys had championship hunger and experience coming into their careers. EP and Boeser against men. Horvat already showed he steps it up on the playoffs and it was only his rookie season. I like the chances of these 3 being big in playoffs. I know its a pom pom comment but It's not without base.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 13 @ 7:33 PM ET
I doubt any of the sadists can even confidently name 15 GM's they'd take over JB.
- Nucker101




Rascal.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 13 @ 7:36 PM ET
One of the things I like about EP, Boeser and Horvat is these guys had championship hunger and experience coming into their careers. EP and Boeser against men. Horvat already showed he steps it up on the playoffs and it was only his rookie season. I like the chances of these 3 being big in playoffs. I know its a pom pom comment but It's not without base.
- boonerbuck



You forgot Loui . He likes to compete too
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 13 @ 7:37 PM ET
Not at all. I endorse all forms of criticism.

I was only speaking about myself during the summer break. I’m tired of trying to prove JB’s worthlessness. Fans are entrenched now so I’m just wasting my time.

I’ll wait until season start so I can point at specific situations that spotlight JB’s failures.

- bloatedmosquito

lol like a few others here I'm sure.

Can't wait for that first 5-6 game losing steak and the world is ending.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 13 @ 7:39 PM ET
Rock my world...

Bobby Orr for Pres

- Nighthawk

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 13 @ 7:42 PM ET
Well said & my position also 👍
- Nighthawk


Totally reasonable.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Aug 13 @ 7:44 PM ET
I think you're mistaken. I think if they're close or in by a few points they buy. I'd say 70-30 10% chance they do nothing.
- golfingsince


The reason JB has the job still is that he's always had a buyer build approach. That's what ownership wants. They believe in improving by buying. It goes against the tank and draft method and that causes unrest for some.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 13 @ 7:47 PM ET
Hubble Telescope syndrome. Benning has it in trade mode.
- boonerbuck


Or just a difference of opinion
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 13 @ 7:47 PM ET
One of the things I like about EP, Boeser and Horvat is these guys had championship hunger and experience coming into their careers. EP and Boeser against men. Horvat already showed he steps it up on the playoffs and it was only his rookie season. I like the chances of these 3 being big in playoffs. I know its a pom pom comment but It's not without base.
- boonerbuck

exactly. EP's attitude suggests that he's pretty pissed he's not in the PO's and that's a contagious thing in the room. Hughes, Boeser and Horvat also suggest that winning attitude. I get the concerns of #teamwhiner when it comes to JB that he has chucked cash at FA's and some questionable trades. But this ain't no Sedin, Burrows, Kesler, Lou era...we have moved on and are cleaning house. This core is so different to what they were trying to build around the Sedins it's ridiculous. As long as they are up 3-5 spots that's the goal. If they flirt with the WC so be it. Exciting hockey that's full of effort. No will give a sh!t much if they lose close games and the effort is there...and I think it will be with this new core post-Sedins.
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